ok im not done

[systemfan15]

Ok, well I guess I will stick with it. I'm going to put a list of
generic tank parts and could some1 give me a link to the item that i
need.#ed_op#br#ed_cl#
ITEMS FOR A 75 gal reef tank:#ed_op#br#ed_cl#
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1.Sump (with everything else that is needed to operate it)#ed_op#br#ed_cl#
2. refugium#ed_op#br#ed_cl#
3. 3-4 powerheads#ed_op#br#ed_cl#
4. live rock#ed_op#br#ed_cl#
5. good fairly inexpensive lighting for annemones#ed_op#br#ed_cl#
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[davejnz]

1.For a sump,I'd use a 30gal aquarium.You can buy picture frame glass at home depot cut to size.You can silicon them in the tank/sump to section it off.You can make one side a refugium(#2).For further info on sumps,do a search here,there's a good link on one of the threads.You will also need an external overflow since your tank isn't drilled,drop me a PM,I have a couple in the garage i'm not using.For the return pump,I'd go with this one
http://www.reefgeek.com/products/categories/pumps/103758.html
3.4 MJ1200's can also be purchased at the above link
4.Liverock,I like to buy locally so i can hand pick it
5.IceCap660 with 4 T5 bulbs is what i'd use,its more expensive though at around $360 for everything you would need,A cheaper alternative is to buy a pair of these http://www.customaquatic.com/customaquatic/itemdetail.asp?itemid=LT-CV-T5RK2-4

[systemfan15]

Would this be a good set: http://cgi.ebay.com/Refugium-Pro-Aquarium-Sump-new-w-accesories_W0QQitemZ7705147461QQcategoryZ20758QQss PageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Now, is this everything that I need for the sump and refugium?

[davejnz]

that would work,but i think this one would be better
http://www.aquauniverse.com/component/page,shop.product_details/flypage,shop.flypage/product_id,1094/option,com_phpshop/Itemid,31/

[Reef_Angel]

It sure is good to hear that you haven't given up!

[jerryc]

A cheap made 29 or 55 gallon tank from wall mart or somewhere like that
makes a good one all you have to do is go to a glass shop and have them cut
glass the width of the tank and silicone them in.

I'm plaining to use a 55 under the 75 I'm working on plain on having about
35 gallon of water in it. The rest for flood control

[davejnz]

I agree,I like to be able to custom design my sump to suit my needs/space.The one in the link above is a pretty good deal though considering all you get.

[jerryc]

#ed_op#P#ed_cl#
I agree,I like to be able to custom design my sump to suit my needs/space.The one in the link above is a pretty good deal though considering all you get.#ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl##ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl#Your right about the price Dave it a far deal#ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl#Whit kind of skimmer is that don't see much about it#ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#

[davejnz]

The skimmer looks like a typical venturi driven,possiibly a downdraft.It doesn't have much info about it.
The CA pumps i've used in the past and are very reliable IME.For the 2 pumps,sump,skimmer,refuge light,and external overflow,it sounds like a pretty good deal.

[systemfan15]

Ok, so if I get this kit will this be all I need? It says prefilter not included. What is a prefilter? And do I need one?