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ReefSolutions
11-11-2010, 01:29 PM
Breeding Journal DataSheet


This first post should be updated regularly to include new information as events take place
or changes are made to your system


General
Species: amphiprion clarkii
Social Structure: rock tank with two other fish
Size of Individuals: female is 4inches male is 2-3 inches
Age of Individuals: both 1 year
Date added to Tank: both added in June

Broodstock Tank Details
Size of Tank: 6'x2'x2'
Substrate Details: aragalive fiji pink with reef grade sand
Filtration Details: sump design, G2 skimmer, "bashsea" (dolphin) 3500 pump
Water Changes: 25 gallon water changes once every two weeks
Water Temperature: 78 degrees F
Lighting: 2 60" fish need it fixtures. 1 ATI blue plus, 1 noname blue bulb, 2 ecoflux HO
Lighting Cycle: 10:30am-7:20pm
Other Tank Inhabitants: Yellow coris wrasse, purpleback pseudochromis, hermit crabs, mexican turbo snails,

Broodstock Feeding Details
Food Types: new life spectrum thera +A, ocean nutrition formula two flake food, frozen mix of spirulina brine,rods food original, mysis shrimp.
Feeding Schedule: pellet food @11am, flake food @ 2pm, frozen foods @ 7pm
Spawning Details
Date of First Spawn: 10/15/10
Spawn Time of Day: night
Dates of Consecutive Spawns: 10/15/10, 11/2/10*, 11/17/10, 12/1/10, 12/16/10, 12/30/10,
Courtship Details: not observed
Egg Size: normal
Egg Color: clear with a bit of orange, silver eyes
Egg Count: 100+

Hatch Details
Hatch Date: 11/11/10
Hatch Time of Day: night
# Days after Spawn: 9 days
Larvae Description: clear, no yolk sac, big eyes, little bit of an orangey color near the tail.


Larval Tank Details
Temperature: 80
Size of Larval Tank: 30 gallons
Substrate Details: bare bottom
Other Tank Decor: air stone
Filtration Details: wisper filter
Lighting: 24 inch 19 watt flouresent bulb (it looks pink)
Lighting Cycle: 11am- 7pm
Water Changes: 6 gallon water change once a week

Larval Feeding Details
Food Types: L-type rotifers from reef nutrition that are fed roti-grow plus, live baby brine shrimp, cyclopeze
Feeding Schedule: 2 cups at 8am, 1 cup at 11am, one cup at 4pm, 2 cups at 7pm.
Metamorphosis/Settlement
Date of Settlement Start: 11/27/10
Days after Hatch: 17
Date of Settlement End: 11/29/10
Description of Fry: black yellow with 3 stripes. one clown still in larval phase

Grow-Out Tank Details
Temperature: 82.6
Size of Grow-Out Tank: 8 gallon biocube
Substrate Details: 1 inch deep sandbed of fiji pink aragalive
Other Tank Decor: sponge over bottom inlet of filter
Filtration Details: standard filter on biocube
Lighting: power compacts
Lighting Cycle: 11am-7pm
Water Changes: 2 gallons once a week
Size at Transfer: 1/4 inch
Age at Transfer: 26 days

Grow-Out Feeding Details
Food Types: fish are now 60days post hatch, eating mix of cyclopeeze, frozen brine, crushed therea +A pellet food ad crushed formula one flake fod.
Feeding Schedule: 11am, 2pm,4pm,7pm, maybe small snacks here and there of baby brine.

Additional Information
Miscellaneous Information: parent clowns hosting a long tentacle anenome

ReefSolutions
11-11-2010, 06:39 PM
clarkii eggs
http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_1831.jpg

Mom in foreground, Dad in back ground
http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_1832.jpg

eggs were moved into the hatching tank today. they should hatch tomorrow.

ReefSolutions
11-12-2010, 11:07 AM
my eggs hatched last night!!! :highfive3:good thing i was doing things a day early! i'm so excited!!!!! about half of the eggs hatched, so i'm waithing on the others. i do see a few casualties floating on the top:tear: i already got a few pics so i'll post them soon.

ReefSolutions
11-12-2010, 05:17 PM
http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_1189.jpg

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_1190.jpg

i counted 63, but thats only what i seen across two sides of the tank, and not including the bottom, so i'm sure there's more.:roll_eyes::roll_eyes::roll_eyes:

ReefSolutions
11-13-2010, 06:11 PM
babies are still doing good, counted at least 37 today. removed unhatched eggs. they look bigger today, but it might just be me.

fishtal
11-13-2010, 06:22 PM
Are you using RotiGreen or some other type of phyto? Your water looks pretty clear...

ReefSolutions
11-14-2010, 09:53 AM
i was so excited that they hatched i quickly grabbed my camera and took some pictures. after that i tosed in like 4 cups of rotifers and added a few drops of the roti-grow plus so that any uneaten rotifers will have food. so now the water is cloudy looking. i'll take more pictures today.

fishtal
11-14-2010, 01:00 PM
RotiGrow is NOT to be used for greenwater. It will cause complications. You need RotiGreen. http://rotifersolutions.com/?page_id=405

The lipid profile in RotiGrow is too high for the larvae in a greenwater environment.

ReefSolutions
11-14-2010, 05:00 PM
Oh, ok. i guess i read the information wrong on the breedclownfish.com website under the fry feeding and care. the site said you can add rotifer diet along with rotifers to the larval tank before the eggs hatch, so i assumed it would be safe for the fry. can and should i do a small water change?

fishtal
11-14-2010, 06:49 PM
Oh, ok. i guess i read the information wrong on the breedclownfish.com website under the fry feeding and care. the site said you can add rotifer diet along with rotifers to the larval tank before the eggs hatch, so i assumed it would be safe for the fry. can and should i do a small water change?

There is a difference between Rotifer Diet HD and RotiGrow+. If you used RotiferDiet HD you should be ok but I would still suggest using RotiGreen. :)

ReefSolutions
11-16-2010, 07:04 PM
clown babies are doing great, getting bigger and swimming around like it's the next best thing, besides eating.:redneck:

fishtal
11-16-2010, 11:28 PM
clown babies are doing great, getting bigger and swimming around like it's the next best thing, besides eating.:redneck:

Good to hear! :D

marc49127
11-19-2010, 10:13 PM
That's so cool that you have baby clowns! I can't wait to see more pics of them!

ReefSolutions
11-23-2010, 01:31 PM
They're gettin' big.
http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_1877.jpg

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_1876.jpg

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_1875.jpg

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_1878.jpg

ReefSolutions
11-25-2010, 10:37 AM
I started a live brine shrimp culture two days ago, and fed the baby clowns live baby brine shrimp yesterday evening and they went crazy! They loved the new and bigger food source. I'm happy to see things going so well. The Last I counted there was still just over 20 babies. I need to do a water change in the tank today, Tuesday was just so busy at the store i didn't end up having time to get to it, and I still left at 8:30. :( Iadded carbon to the tank to get it clean now that the babies will be getting into the settlement phase pretty soon. i also added three drops of Blackwell elemental to give them some vitamins to help in the settlement phase. i hope things continue to go well for the fishies.:big_grin:

demonclownfish
11-25-2010, 10:58 AM
gonna sell these in the shop if they make it? and btw your doing a great job,especially since its the first time.

ReefSolutions
11-27-2010, 10:49 PM
I did a water change on the tank and instead of unplugging the heater i just turned it down to off and then turned it back on. i't s a really old heater and has a dial that you turn on top and it doesn't tell you what temp it goes up to. I thought i had it up high enough. the next day i got there and the tank is only at 67 degrees, neddless to say i have now lost a few of the babies. but i got the temp back up 78 today, so hopefully things will get better.

fishtal
11-27-2010, 11:53 PM
I feel your pain. I hate heaters! On a side note, you might want to raise the temp a bit, you'll get better growth. I raise mine at ~82F and have nice results. :) Great job! I only got 2 on my first attempt.

cephalotus
11-28-2010, 04:51 PM
Tagging along.

ReefSolutions
11-29-2010, 05:55 PM
I was so excited today. I stopped in at the store and fed the little babies, and noticed that a few of them are swimming like normal clowns!!!! hurray!. There was also one that was yellow in color. I don't know if i am mistaken but i still really don't see a first stripe showing up yet. I see a silver belly but that's all. I'll have to try to take some better pictures tomorrow.:big_grin:

fishtal
11-29-2010, 10:25 PM
Cool, take a look at this journal: http://www.mbisite.org/Forums/tm.aspx?m=43906 They are really cute post-meta!

ReefSolutions
11-30-2010, 12:00 PM
I pushed the temp up on tank and it is at 82.4 this morning. fish are doing great. I went to turn the dial down to 80 and there was a baby clown sittin' on top of the heater with two stripes!!! I was just awed at it. It was soooo cute!!! I couldn't help but laugh out loud, luckly there were no customers in the store to think i'm weird. upon further investigation two fish have their head stripes and like i said before there is one or two that is yellow in color. things are going well.

bigbill
11-30-2010, 01:29 PM
new pics of the baby got there striping

http://i701.photobucket.com/albums/ww15/bigbill_01/DSC017072.jpg
http://i701.photobucket.com/albums/ww15/bigbill_01/DSC017042.jpg

ReefSolutions
12-02-2010, 07:16 PM
Here's more pics of the babies. They're so cute!

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_1987.jpg

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_1984.jpg

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_1989.jpg

I still have 11 babies. Four of them still do not have their stripes yet. Lost one of the yellow ones, but still have one left. started a new batch of baby brine shrimp. last time i made a new batch, what of the eggs that were stuck to my finger I brushed off into my rotifer bucket. today when i went to feed the babies, in the foam cup there were 10 or so baby brine shrimp. So cool, i got a good mixture to feed the fish!
When should i try to start feeding frozen foods? a while yet?

demonclownfish
12-02-2010, 07:19 PM
i want one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol. that last pic is sweet

scubamomma
12-02-2010, 07:27 PM
soo cute i love baby clowns!

ReefSolutions
12-06-2010, 05:34 PM
I went and fed the baby fishies this morning and i have 8 babies that all of their stripes and the other 4 have their head stripes. They are now swimming in groups of 4 or 6 and i'm sure pecking orders are going to start and i'll have to seperate a few of them like Tal does. But all in all things are still going well.

ReefSolutions
12-07-2010, 06:28 PM
Heres the babies getting moved to their new tank, an 8 gallon nano. step mom needs to make room for more babies this weekend.
babies in the bucket
http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_2035.jpg

the little runt.
http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_2034.jpg

babies in their new tank
http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_2038.jpg
http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_2037.jpg

ReefSolutions
12-22-2010, 08:10 PM
well the little guys are now 41 days post hatch and doing great. i did end up loosing the little runt, Just as i was telling Tal Sweet that it was doing great despite it's size.
I still have 10.
http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_2119.jpg
http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_2117.jpg
http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_2115.jpg

fishtal
12-23-2010, 01:23 PM
They are so cute! Only 19 days to go to get them to 60DPS. Congrats!

ReefSolutions
12-28-2010, 04:15 PM
They're still doing great. Eating like pigs! is this a normal striping pattern for the babies? it's cool and all of them have the long belly stripe and the tail stripe goes the full length off the top of the tail, almost like the A. Latifasciatus. I think they look neat i hope they don't lose this unique striping.

Chelle's Ocean
12-28-2010, 07:21 PM
Wow, ....I am in awe :) You have done GREAT!

Ok- so it was noticed and mentioned earlier about the green water- do you think having 'clearer' water helped? (trying to see if maybe I make mine TOO dense w/phyto)

The pic on the heater is SOOO cute!

Thanks for keeping the journal- job well done! :)
Have a Happy New Year to you and the baby clowns!

ReefSolutions
01-02-2011, 09:55 PM
I'm not sure if the clear water did anything better or worse. This was my first time breeding clowns and trying to raise the fry, so I've never done it anyother way. I'm in debate with myself everytime I see the babies. Did having clear water make them survive better? I always heard that the first two to three times trying to raise the fry will result in them all dying, just from inexperience. Or did having clear water kill more of them off because of not having enough food being in there all time. But i say if i had such luck this way, I'm going to stick with it. I also never filtered my rotifers before adding them to my larval tank. I just turned off the bubbler two minutes before and then took a foam coffee cup and scooped some out and poured it in the tank. I also wondered if this was hurting the fish or helping some rotifers survive longer than not. It's all a big mystery. lol. All I can is that it wouldn't hurt to try the way I did it.
thanks for reading my posts.:roll_eyes:

demonclownfish
01-02-2011, 10:03 PM
6 days to 60DPS?

BK's Reef
01-02-2011, 11:29 PM
They're still doing great. Eating like pigs! is this a normal striping pattern for the babies? it's cool and all of them have the long belly stripe and the tail stripe goes the full length off the top of the tail, almost like the A. Latifasciatus. I think they look neat i hope they don't lose this unique striping.

I'm wondering the same thing with my bicinctus pair, they have the line on the top all the way to the end of there tail.

Chelle's Ocean
01-03-2011, 07:22 PM
Awesome still. I did keep the water clear (threw the video on youtube :) ) but I made the mistake of adding probiotics to the rot's ... then the whole hatch died.

It did make it easier for 'me' to see the fish, although I am not so certain it made it easier for 'them' to see the food?

In regards to what you said, about the first few attempts... several people have said the same - I guess I am having a hard time with the losses, lol...as I hate thinking it was something 'I' did to cause their end :( (but I am learning to learn and move on )

I will continue to follow - great job!

What is it you are going to do with them?

fishtal
01-03-2011, 10:21 PM
Shannon,

I don't want to hijack your journal, but I thought I'd add some thoughts. Feel free to remove them if you wish. :)

You can find extensive rotifer info starting here: http://rotifersolutions.com/?p=29

With regard to using "greenwater", it us used for several reasons.

First being: visibility. Larval fishes can see rather well. Keeping the water green, but not too green, limits the distance that the larvae can see. Think of it this way: Is it better to spend energy to swim after every rotifer that you can see or, feed on the ones you can and use the energy to grow? If rotifers are stocked adequately there will be enough to feed on without swimming all over the tank.

Second: As Randy Reed explained it to me, 1 hour in the life of a rotifer is like 100 days to a human. So if rotifers aren't getting a good supply of food, they aren't going to live very long, reproduce, or be of much nutritional value after a while.

I don't want to make this sound like a selling pitch, but using a product like RotiGreen keeps your rotifers well nourished and thriving for the time periods that you need them. I only say this because it works, I'm not trying to sell the product.

Getting the proper color of "green"/density of phyto can be a bit tricky. That's often where people have problems. Can some larval fish be reared in clearer water? Sure, if they are constantly fed properly enriched rotifers on a continuous basis. Is that easy? Not IMHO. ;)

Another thing to consider is the lipid profile of the phyto that is used to enrich/feed the rotifers.

ReefSolutions
01-10-2011, 09:58 AM
Tal,
By no means are you hijacking my thread. Any input is appreciated. I went through multiple sites , including your own, to read up and get any and all information of raising fish fry. The rotifersolutions website I checked out too. The only issue I had with rotifers was that there got to be too many in my bucket. I was feeding them the rotigrow + at 1 ml three times a day in concentrated form straight out of the bag. They ate all of it to where the water was almost clear before I fed them again. I then did a 2/3 harvest instead of a 1/3, the population finally dropped.
As far as the fish, I fed them 4 times a day, two foam cups of unfiltered rotifers. I knew it was alot but I wanted to make sure the fish got what they needed. I did a 20% water change every week to make sure the water stayed free of decaying rotifers and fish that didn't make it.
By far as a breeder I know I have a long way to go to get anywhere near your status. lol.
Again thanks for advice and the information.:big_grin:

fishtal
01-10-2011, 03:09 PM
You're doing fine Shannon. It just takes a little practice to get things just right. :)

ReefSolutions
01-11-2011, 01:07 PM
The babies are now actually 61 days old, born the night of November 11th 2010.
All 10 are still doing great.
I had to take the biggest one out and put him in a different tank, he was picking on all the little ones.
They are now on a diet of cyclopeeze, frozen brine, crushed flake, and crushed pellet.

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_2182.jpg

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_2175.jpg

The big meany by himself(with a red scooter, hifin goby, pistol shrimp)
http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_2178.jpg

They still have some growing to do before they are up for sale,
I'm thinking around Valentines day.
It has been a wonderful experience raising these fish, from the excitement of finding the eggs on the rock to hatching day and the day they got their stripes. :big_grin:
I've found my new hobby!

fishtal
01-11-2011, 02:04 PM
Nice job Shannon!

mpedersen
01-11-2011, 06:11 PM
Those babies look GREAT! Congratulations!

Flynnstone
01-28-2011, 12:15 PM
My wife moved the baby clowns to a new 60 gallon grow out tank. Chris was kind enough to bring in his red bubble anenome so the babies can have an 'apartment' to live in. they seem to really enjoy it.

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_2228-1.jpg

mpedersen
01-28-2011, 12:20 PM
That's a GREAT shot!

jolson10450
01-28-2011, 12:22 PM
yes very nice picture!!!!!!!!

ReefSolutions
02-17-2011, 05:00 PM
:crying: My Babies are all sold. They are 98 days old and a customer with 600 gallon tank came in yesterday and fell in love with the clowns and their anenome, so we sold them as a package deal. i did take one home first so i could keep one of my little babies. So here is one last picture of the little fishies. they are leaving tomorrow.

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/reefsolutions/IMG_2316.jpg
have a safe trip home little ones!!
step-mommy loves you!

demonclownfish
02-17-2011, 05:12 PM
gonna do it again?

MizTanks
02-17-2011, 05:22 PM
That would break my heart~at least until I used the money from the sale for something new to add to my tank :)

ReefSolutions
03-08-2011, 01:15 PM
well i was misinformed by my co-workers. the customer that was going to take the clown babies only had a 120gallon tank. i had to tell the guy no. i could not sell all of them to him. with eight clowns they would quickly outgrow and become too aggressive towards each other and kill each other off till there would be a pair. so i still have my little babies.
i would deffinatley like to breed them again. my clarkiis and my ocellaris are now on the same schedule with laying their eggs. they laid more yeserday sometime.
i've been talking with my husband and am going to be doing clown breeding at home. i have a picasso percula pair at home now and they seem pretty promising. the female does get annoyed by the males shimmy gestures, but he's trying. lol.
i'm thinking of doing picassos, black snowflake ocellaris, and maybe some dottybacks. but its all still in the thought process now.