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JMALACHI
12-22-2010, 01:01 PM
Just a few pics of what I've seen in the past couple days. Was fine since we got him like a week ago and then a couple days ago its mouth was steady open and not eating. Stayed that way but closed it a bit and now loss of flesh. Any thoughts? All my other brains n trachs are fine. This is the second brain that I bought new from reef empire that dies in less than a month from the same order. Bummed!!
First night in my tank.
http://184.72.239.143/mu/43a3ad4c-493d-c051.jpg
2days ago
http://184.72.239.143/mu/43a3ad4c-4993-438f.jpg
Today (just dipped him n now in a freshwater dip)
http://184.72.239.143/mu/43a3ad4c-49c9-f4a9.jpg



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jimsflies
12-22-2010, 01:38 PM
Sorry to see this. Did you feed it when you got it?

I think the freshwater dip would do more harm than good. CoralRx or Revive is a better bet. Although not sure it will help much now.
JMALACHI
12-22-2010, 01:43 PM
Sorry to see this. Did you feed it when you got it?

I think the freshwater dip would do more harm than good. CoralRx or Revive is a better bet. Although not sure it will help much now.

Yea I fed it when I got it and everytime I fed the coral. I had it for about two weeks. I'm new to dipping and did the iodine n fresh dip after. It's how I read to do it but I don't know much on dippin.

This is the second one from the same order and I'm ****ed. Sucks! Everything else is fine but those two.

Thanks for the feed back.


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gablett
12-22-2010, 01:46 PM
Agree, coralrx is what i use and its a lot less harsh than iodine.
jimsflies
12-22-2010, 01:51 PM
My theory on some of these corals (esp. LPS) is that they can be overfed. If they get too much or can't digest the food, I think it can start to rot them from the inside out. I have done it myself to a couple of them. I also think they should get settled in for awhile before trying to feed them basically for the same reason. I think if they are not fully acclimated or still slightly stressed from the move, that they don't necessarily digest as well...again causing coral "gut rot".

Again this is just my theory....and it might not even be the issue here.
jolson10450
12-22-2010, 02:03 PM
Agree, coralrx is what i use and its a lot less harsh than iodine.

if i am not mistaken coralrx is actually more harsh that iodine but maybe someone else can chime in on that? i am not 100% sure i would have to look it up again but i remember reading coralrx was more harsh that iodine hence the reason coralrx removes more parasites etc... than iodine.
JMALACHI
12-22-2010, 02:06 PM
My theory on some of these corals (esp. LPS) is that they can be overfed. If they get too much or can't digest the food, I think it can start to rot them from the inside out. I have done it myself to a couple of them. I also think they should get settled in for awhile before trying to feed them basically for the same reason. I think if they are not fully acclimated or still slightly stressed from the move, that they don't necessarily digest as well...again causing coral "gut rot".

Again this is just my theory....and it might not even be the issue here.

Yea. I hear you. As soon as the feeder tentacles were out I gave them food. Sucks. That was my first scoly and my girl bought it.


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gablett
12-22-2010, 02:47 PM
I had read that CoralRX is all natural ingredients that were designed to be less harsh than straight iodine. Lots of posts on ReefCentral about how Coral RX is great, kinda expensive but no where near as harsh. Ive dipped everything in it, and some corals even have stayed open for the whole 5 minute dip and every coral opens immediattely after. It does kill everything though, and almost immediately.
PAZAZZ
12-22-2010, 03:10 PM
Looks like an Acan Maxima to me.... Was it sold as a scoly?
schminksbro
12-22-2010, 03:23 PM
Iodine likely kills more corals than it saves. It can be very harsh.

if i am not mistaken coralrx is actually more harsh that iodine but maybe someone else can chime in on that? i am not 100% sure i would have to look it up again but i remember reading coralrx was more harsh that iodine hence the reason coralrx removes more parasites etc... than iodine.
JMALACHI
12-22-2010, 03:58 PM
Looks like an Acan Maxima to me.... Was it sold as a scoly?

Yea. Sold as a scoly. Is it not?


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JMALACHI
12-22-2010, 03:59 PM
So is 15 drops of iodine to one liter of water ok for a dip? That's what I read.


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jimsflies
12-22-2010, 08:53 PM
I think the key here is the "freshwater". I wouldn't recommend dipping any stressed coral (or most healthy corals) in freshwater. The CoralRx or iodine dips should be mixed with saltwater if the intent is a therapeutic affect on the coral (e.g., treat an infection). Zoanthids can close up to protect themselves from the freshwater, but most LPS are going to suffer a negative outcome.
JMALACHI
12-22-2010, 09:47 PM
I think the key here is the "freshwater". I wouldn't recommend dipping any stressed coral (or most healthy corals) in freshwater. The CoralRx or iodine dips should be mixed with saltwater if the intent is a therapeutic affect on the coral (e.g., treat an infection). Zoanthids can close up to protect themselves from the freshwater, but most LPS are going to suffer a negative outcome.

Ok. Well thats good to know. What would you do a fw dip for?


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jimsflies
12-22-2010, 09:57 PM
I have only used it on palys and zoanthids.
JMALACHI
12-22-2010, 10:35 PM
I have only used it on palys and zoanthids.

But for what? I thought a fw dip helped to cleanse it from the iodine dip.


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jayjay60
12-23-2010, 09:24 AM
CoralRx is amazing I have never encountered a issue with it I use to dip everything just use a air stone or small pump when doing it and only use 4 capfuls per gallon. Then rinse the coral in another tub of saltwater before putting back in the tank.
jimsflies
12-23-2010, 09:41 AM
But for what? I thought a fw dip helped to cleanse it from the iodine dip.


The FW dip is meant to remove pests...zoanthids seem to get more than their share...Nudis, spiders, etc. Iodine would be to treat any infection...but is also a toxin in high concentrations to inverts. However, I think in a FW dip the main active ingredient is the fresh water itself.

I have also used a melafix/saltwater dip to treat LPS that appear to have an infection or other process.

Personally, I would never recommend putting anything other than a zoo/paly in freshwater.