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henry hill
02-08-2011, 08:44 AM
About ready to throw in the towel with this bout!! Cant seem to get rid of the H/A.

Feeding very little once a week.
Doing water changes weekly
Turned light cycle down to 6 hrs
Running GFO and some carbon

Thinking of sucking sustrate out and putting a skimmer on?

I have a 28 gal JBJ
LED lighting
MP 20 for flow
plus the 2 stock returns for flow and filtration.
Tank has been up and running since July 2010

Have not even thought about putting any new Corals in till this problem goes away! (No interest in adding anything)

Anyone no of a good Nano Skimmer? Dont want garbage.

jolson10450
02-08-2011, 08:49 AM
my first questions are what type of food are you feeding?
are you using RO/DI water?
what type of clean up crew do you have to control it?
what type of substrate do you have?

Usually having CC in a nano causes blooms because it harbors the nitrates from old food and fish poop between it and the water in such a small tank goes bad quick!

i would recommend getting a emerald crab and possibly a few cerith snails and margarita snails, they do good work on most types of Algae without having to go chemically, if it fails after that point then i would try something else. hermits sometimes help but they will also take out your snail population over time.

in such a small tank, the type of food you feed is critical. there are a lot of flake foods that cause Algae blooms if you feed slightly over what your fish can handle. same with the gelatin type foods like the "San Fransisco Bay" brand frozen foods which cause huge blooms in my tank and make my skimmer go nuts. when i feed PE mysis everything is fine, when i feed PE i still put the food in the net and run it under water to thaw it out and remove any excess nutrients on the outsides of the food before i feed it.

you can also try things such as microbacter 7 to help add bacteria to the tank to remove nitrates and phosphates but this will show no results until you can remove the hair Algae yourself, then it will just help at preventing it from growing back.


hope this helps some.

creefer
02-08-2011, 09:14 AM
You could also try turbo snails. I had 2 large ones that destroyed my HA in a week. I also reduced the light cycle to 6 total hours with only 4 hours of white light ( I use LED as well). I manually removed as much as possible, bumped up my mg with Kent Tech M for a week and started bacteria dosing as Justin suggested and inside of 10 days, it was gone and has not returned.

My problem started with my use of RO water with no DI and not rinsing frozen mysis. RO was producing 10-15 TDS at the time of the outbreak. I started the DI with 4 water changes prior to the above changes and I think that made an impact as well.

Good luck!

Burke
02-08-2011, 11:36 AM
I had some that I couldn't get to go away. It would creep up on the walls, glass, rock, etc. And the tank was almost bare.

I bought a couple dozen small snails, some of this, some of that, and threw them in my 29g. It was gone within a week.

I do have a bare bottom tank though with a lot of flow, media basket with chemipure, purigen, and a tunze 9002.

Hope that helps

ballhog
02-08-2011, 11:52 AM
You using RO water? Maybe filter old? My only success my the Hair, is clean and scrub, then water change.

skuttduck
02-08-2011, 11:52 AM
I battled it on my 75 gallon in the beginning what a pain. I could tell you what finally worked if you want.

Seeing as how the tank has been up since July, you might just be seeing some of the stuff dying off in the substrate and rock. Also make sure your temperature is pretty stable. I've had that cause algae blooms.

reeferchick
02-08-2011, 01:50 PM
my bristle tooth tang and fox face got all my h/a out!!! only took couple day too!! amazing fish ;)

rmalone
02-08-2011, 02:10 PM
Run some gfo in media somewhere in your back chambers. Try to feed pellets only, if your fish will eat them. Put your fish on a diet. Be very religious about water changes (make sure your using good quality water). Obviously you can't use tangs or foxface in a 28g. Starving it out is the only sure way to success.

MizTanks
02-08-2011, 02:39 PM
Sorry Henry Hill, I know your pain. I'm not going to tell you what you should and should not buy. Only because I tried everything stock wise(snails, crabs, fish,) to rid my 8g of HA. I found that if the HA is to long nothing would touch it.
I fought for better then 6+months. I lost a lot of zoa's, from being choked out. Even those in the SB on their own plugs. Finally I quit buying any. I started researching what *algae* really is and how and what it needs to grow.
The algae was there from the beginning. In the LR. The LR is leaching nutrients in the way of die off. Of course light, water source, feeding all played a part but still. I couldn't do anything but find something to out-compete it. But until then what about the stuff that's already taken over my tank. How do I get *RID* of that. I didn't just wanna keep it from growing ya know.

This is what I finally did. While still picking as much as I could, on a daily bases no doubt.

I bought some, Marin-Chem Stop Hair Algae. It worked wonderfully! I applied it to the worse and largest areas. Making sure to stop any and all flow during application. Allowing it to sit for about 20-30 min before returning flow. Within 48hrs the treated spots were clean. No harm to my corals at all. Except for the zoa's I applied the stuff to directly :duh: still the loss was worth the results.
What I liked about the stuff? Is it smells like black Licorices!! YUM! Oops sorry I love black licorices.
I have no more HA in my tank at all. Haven't even had a re-occurrence. I'm not trying to sell you on anything, just sharing what worked for me with the Long Hair Algae.

http://www.marinedepot.com/Chem_Marin_Stop_Hair_Algae_8_oz._Red_Slime_Cyanoba cteria_Remover_Medications-Chem_Marin-CM1311-FIMERM-vi.html

AJ :)
02-08-2011, 03:13 PM
Kent Tech M worked for me.

Hope you get to the bottom of this.

AJ

ballhog
02-08-2011, 03:14 PM
Cool thanks for the info MizTanks, going to pick some of it up. I guess I could put a Mohawk on my scarlet then, lol He's always been more of a punk rocker.
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx67/iballhog/Uploads%20via%20Pixelpipe/IMG_4629.jpg

henry hill
02-08-2011, 03:18 PM
WOW!

AJ :)
02-08-2011, 03:36 PM
That is an awesome pic!

bobilo
02-08-2011, 04:05 PM
For the record Kent Marine Tech M is used in killing bryopsis not common hair algae. I'd research and find out what type of algae you have first.

henry hill
02-08-2011, 04:32 PM
TRying to stay away from chemicals. I did switch salt about 3 months ago? I was using R/C and then went to reef solutions house salt, cant remember the name.

MizTanks
02-08-2011, 05:45 PM
Kent Tech M worked for me.

Hope you get to the bottom of this.

AJ

Works great for Bryopsis algae and you have to be able to measure you mag which the test are freaking expensive. Doesn't work on HA though.

Did I mention that Marin-Chem Stop Hair Algae is 100% natural? No? Well it is!

MizTanks
02-08-2011, 05:48 PM
Cool thanks for the info MizTanks, going to pick some of it up. I guess I could put a Mohawk on my scarlet then, lol He's always been more of a punk rocker.
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx67/iballhog/Uploads%20via%20Pixelpipe/IMG_4629.jpg

He looks more like he's strutting a Don King~lol

henry hill
02-09-2011, 02:14 PM
Just went up to Kees and talked to Jason for a bit and did some testing.

Salt I was using has no Alk

Alk 6.0
Mag 1250
Salinity 1.030 oh my

== Hair Algae and unhappy Scoly!!
Also dead inverts from salinity shock!

dlhirst
02-09-2011, 05:07 PM
Chris, you certainly want to address those params first... My experience with GHA was much like your own. Then, I took my family on a 8 day vacation. Of course, that meant NO FEEDING for over a week. On return, the GHA was 99% gone, and has never really returned (50 weeks later, and counting).

So, what happened? Starving the fish meant no new nutrients into the tank. And then it occurred to me - just cuz they EAT it all doesn't mean there is no nutrient load. The fish gotta poop it out too. That's nutrient load as well. Perhaps my "starving" fish ate some algae too, I don't know. But, I have them on the kind of diet my fat butt should be on right now, and the clowns have doubled in size anyways...

And, like your crab, I thought my son was just being a good Spartan, but maybe this was where the GHA went?

Fishbutt
02-09-2011, 06:03 PM
Assuming you have Bryopsis (hairy algae... very common), check this link out.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1113109&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

I followed the above method (high Magnesium dosage) and my Bryopsis problem was no-more. My corals and inverts didn't flinch either...
Good luck!

EMUreef
02-09-2011, 06:19 PM
Just went up to Kees and talked to Jason for a bit and did some testing.

Salt I was using has no Alk

Alk 6.0
Mag 1250
Salinity 1.030 oh my

== Hair Algae and unhappy Scoly!!
Also dead inverts from salinity shock!

Those won't cause HA. Hair algae is from either nitrates or phosphates or a combo of both.

Someone asked you already if you use RO water for your top offs and water changes..

chemicals and addivites are great for killing it for a short term...

But you got to figure out what is causing it or it'll come back. Thats first.

henry hill
02-09-2011, 07:14 PM
No nitrates or phosphates.

EMUreef
02-09-2011, 07:24 PM
No nitrates or phosphates.

thats because the HA is absorbing it all. When people have an algae issue, these levels are usually not detectable. HA grows from 2 things. Light and Either nitrates or phosphates.

Again do you use RO water?

Sir Patrick
02-09-2011, 07:27 PM
Is this tank getting any direct/indirect sunlight??

henry hill
02-09-2011, 07:31 PM
Is this tank getting any direct/indirect sunlight??yes

henry hill
02-09-2011, 07:34 PM
thats because the HA is absorbing it all. When people have an algae issue, these levels are usually not detectable. HA grows from 2 things. Light and Either nitrates or phosphates.

Again do you use RO water?THeres NO nitrates because Ive been starving the fish for the last three months!! I did have some Phos but those are gone now. Ro/Di Of coarse.

henry hill
02-09-2011, 07:35 PM
I had to start feeding my clowns just enough to keep them from picking at some zoos. Maybe every 8 to 10 days.

Sir Patrick
02-09-2011, 08:01 PM
Do you notice the algea growing, for the most part, on the parts of the tank/rock on the sides the light hits? Or the back wall/last inside pane of glass the light hits?

Sunlight is a huge pain!!!

EMUreef
02-09-2011, 08:04 PM
THeres NO nitrates because Ive been starving the fish for the last three months!! I did have some Phos but those are gone now. Ro/Di Of coarse.

im sorry but GHA only feed on nitrates and phosphates, if you didnt have these, they GHA would die and go away. something is feeding it. You have nitrates somewhere. Test your RO water, there is something in your water causing the GHA to stay alive.

Nitrates arn't only introduced by food/fish waste. It can also be in your salt mix and water. Same goes with phosphates.

here's a good read on GHA http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2008-07/nftt/index.php

Chelle's Ocean
02-09-2011, 08:07 PM
Personally I do not like adding chemicals to my tank, I have tried an armour of products - nothing battled the TROLL DOLL looking hair algae that I had growing... (this was only in the 180g tank) I searched for my sea hares...and I have not had a problem since they began feasting on it. Now- it does take longer for some species... but once they find it, they eat it - gone :) I maintain one in my tank now (of course until he reaches his end naturally- as they do not live long) by supplementing him with nori / seaweed sheets.... have also bought clumps of macro algae and clipped it to the glass- he loves it. But he still goes over every inch of rockwork ...like clockwork... checking the tank for any gha.

I have had a few..trying to find the one I wanted... (in my previous threads- the one we had is on the "list" of not able to get anymore- but depending on your lfs... they range between $7 and $40.... the most expensive one I had purchased was my blue spot.

I would suggest you have the lfs order a sea hare for you. Place it in your tank, and give him ...... 2 weeks to get to work. I do not limit my feedings to my tank since I have him in there... there is no more cause for gha worry :)

Good luck!

henry hill
02-09-2011, 08:15 PM
Personally I do not like adding chemicals to my tank, I have tried an armour of products - nothing battled the TROLL DOLL looking hair algae that I had growing... (this was only in the 180g tank) I searched for my sea hares...and I have not had a problem since they began feasting on it. Now- it does take longer for some species... but once they find it, they eat it - gone :) I maintain one in my tank now (of course until he reaches his end naturally- as they do not live long) by supplementing him with nori / seaweed sheets.... have also bought clumps of macro algae and clipped it to the glass- he loves it. But he still goes over every inch of rockwork ...like clockwork... checking the tank for any gha.

I have had a few..trying to find the one I wanted... (in my previous threads- the one we had is on the "list" of not able to get anymore- but depending on your lfs... they range between $7 and $40.... the most expensive one I had purchased was my blue spot.

I would suggest you have the lfs order a sea hare for you. Place it in your tank, and give him ...... 2 weeks to get to work. I do not limit my feedings to my tank since I have him in there... there is no more cause for gha worry :)

Good luck!Just borrowed one from a local reefer, cleaned the tank up in 2 weeks. Gave him back and poof, the stuff is coming back in. The h/a is minimal but threwout the tank, so I dont think it is an indirect light issue.

EMUreef
02-09-2011, 08:22 PM
Just borrowed one from a local reefer, cleaned the tank up in 2 weeks. Gave him back and poof, the stuff is coming back in. The h/a is minimal but threwout the tank, so I dont think it is an indirect light issue.

what do you have in your media chambers in your biocube?

creefer
02-09-2011, 08:23 PM
I agree with Russ completely on this issue. There must be some fuel in your system from some source that is causing this. I too get some indirect sunlight however I don't have any ha.

henry hill
02-09-2011, 08:41 PM
what do you have in your media chambers in your biocube?
L/R GFO Carbon

EMUreef
02-09-2011, 08:42 PM
L/R GFO Carbon

any sponges/filter floss?

henry hill
02-09-2011, 08:52 PM
Im 8 yrs into this hobby! LOL I wish it could be that simple Russ! LOL

Sir Patrick
02-09-2011, 09:16 PM
I am still leaning to light feeding the algea.

Wait....are you running the LED top on this tank???

henry hill
02-10-2011, 04:07 AM
Yes, Nano customs 5. something mod?

Chelle's Ocean
02-10-2011, 07:58 AM
Do you have a photo to share? What exactly does it look like?

I know with mine, the sea hare attacked it, and I did cut my halides back- kept them off for a couple of weeks... if it is the same as mine, I would suggest tossing a sea hare in for a longer period, don't take him out once you see it gone, because he will scour the rock and get more that you cannot see. Also- I increased my mg - I did not have bryopsis, but I know that with bryopsis raising your mg levels works... so I tried it with my troll gha.. but I would suggest keeping a sea hare in the tank for awhile, til you know it is gone and not coming back.... if for anything it will give you peace of mind. In the meantime, while the hare is munching on the algae, you can do everything else others are suggesting, changing filters, checking life of your bulbs (that is a cause of gha), water parameters, etc... :)

henry hill
02-13-2011, 07:44 PM
I am still leaning to light feeding the algea.

Wait....are you running the LED top on this tank???Still waiting to find out what your getting at?

Sir Patrick
02-13-2011, 08:05 PM
I have heard of many LED users getting a good bloom out of these lights, especially the ones that have the LED's close to the water surface. I had to get the LED's well above, like 2 feet, to stop growing algea in the tank like mad!

I have also heard its just a stage, and will go away once the lights/tank settle with the new addition of the high par lighting. Again, this is what I have heard, and some of what I witnessed. Might want to post a thread on LEDs and hair algea, to see if what I have witnesed are more common that just what I have heard.

Sir Patrick
02-13-2011, 08:09 PM
I think the hair algea/LED issue is slightly uncommon, because most users have them hung a good distance from the waters surface, but that cubes lighting is very close to the surface, just as my par 38 bulb was. I had tremendous amounts of algea growth, wherever the light hit, and no where else in the tank.

Sir Patrick
02-13-2011, 08:10 PM
Sorry for the delayed responce.....:tongue_out:


Definitly somthing worth looking into though?

nate_newton
02-13-2011, 08:12 PM
Do you know what type of algae or have a photo of it for ID?

spartyblaze
02-13-2011, 08:20 PM
I think manual cleaning with perfect water quality are the best ways to clear HA. Get a toothbrush and go to town over a sink on the pieces that you can.

I am not sure, I didn't see what type of water you are using - but test it for phosphates, which are the source of food for your bloom in most cases. Also if you use something like DTs or Rods with suspended particulate, it will feed the algae pretty well.

henry hill
02-14-2011, 05:40 PM
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e212/cschmatz111/P2140239.jpghttp://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e212/cschmatz111/P2140238.jpghttp://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e212/cschmatz111/P2140231.jpg

skuttduck
02-14-2011, 07:20 PM
The first picture looks like Cyanobacteria.
I had the green cyano in my 75 gallon aquarium.

How are your temperatures in the tank?

schminksbro
02-14-2011, 08:00 PM
Looks like cyano and bryopsis not hair algae. Get the nutrients out of the tank and do a Tech M magnesium treatment. I would be changing small quantities of GFO daily as well as carbon. That stuff becomes exhausted very quickly when you have excessive nutrients in the tank. That will help with the cyano. The Tech M will take out the bryopsis.

henry hill
02-15-2011, 04:12 AM
I have raised the Mag to 1500 and I will try to change out gfo and see what happens. I raised mag with Epsonsalt? So the Pic with the Scoly in it doesint look like H/A?

nate_newton
02-15-2011, 10:41 AM
I have raised the Mag to 1500 and I will try to change out gfo and see what happens. I raised mag with Epsonsalt? So the Pic with the Scoly in it doesint look like H/A?

As far as I know raising your mag will only kill it if you use Kent tech m. Chris Brightwell has confirmed this also.

schminksbro
02-15-2011, 10:48 AM
You need to use Kent Tech M. Apparently it isn't the magnesium it is some other ingredient. The pic with the scoly is definitely bryopsis.

I have raised the Mag to 1500 and I will try to change out gfo and see what happens. I raised mag with Epsonsalt? So the Pic with the Scoly in it doesint look like H/A?

Rabidgoose
02-15-2011, 11:08 AM
Carbon changed out regularly should help with your cyano/bga problem. Increased oxygen and water flow along with manual removal can also speed up the process...IMO

henry hill
02-15-2011, 11:15 AM
I did suck out a patch on the left side of tank along with alot of sand. Going to hit the other area next w/c. Im am using an Mp-20 on full blast for flow, so I know flow is no issue.

Rabidgoose
02-15-2011, 11:23 AM
Yeah, I figured on the flow, part of the generalization....:big_grin: I have had the most luck with carbon. I can usually tell when my carbon needs changing by the appearance of a small patch of cyano/bga.


I did suck out a patch on the left side of tank along with alot of sand. Going to hit the other area next w/c. Im am using an Mp-20 on full blast for flow, so I know flow is no issue.

henry hill
02-15-2011, 11:24 AM
Bga?

Rabidgoose
02-15-2011, 11:30 AM
Blue/Green Algae


Bga?

creefer
02-15-2011, 11:47 AM
I agree on the bryopsis diagnosis. I have read that you may need to bring the mag up to 1800+ for a short spell to kill it off however you need to do so gradually.

Good Luck.

henry hill
02-15-2011, 12:48 PM
Looking for Kent Tech M. Kee's no longer keeps it in stock?

henry hill
02-15-2011, 04:35 PM
Cant find anyone close with Kent Tech?

Sir Patrick
02-15-2011, 09:07 PM
Not sure if its close, but the fish doctors ypsilanti carries it. The other FD's might also.

henry hill
02-19-2011, 04:16 PM
Third day of dosing Tech M and still waiting for it to start. Going to bring a water sample to lps to test Mag level.

binford4000
02-19-2011, 08:48 PM
Hey Henry,been along time.Getting the mag and alk in check will help allot for sure.I see your running gfo,is that in a bag or reactor? It is much more effective if it's being fluidized.One thing that I have used for along time since our battle with HA a long time ago was a uv sterlizer.I know many people swear by them and also at them.I have two 9 w that are just laying around and your welcome to em.What we did was scrubbed every thing with a plastic brush,treated the tank with stop algae and then did a massive water change.Hooked up a uv and started the cycle again.We have allot less algae issues since useing the sterlizers.I personaly can't see running a system with out one.Good luck and hope all works out and the invitation is yours if ya want it.

ps--I'd hook up the skimmer also after the treatment has run it's course,they're still the best way to remove waste IMO

MizTanks
02-19-2011, 09:17 PM
Don't mean to hijack your thread Henry but Binford here is the first person I've seen in a long time who's mentioned a UV sterilizer. Don't see many peoples talking about them any more but I've not heard anything bad about them.
Funny thing is I've been looking at the 9w inline uv's myself :)

binford4000
02-19-2011, 09:28 PM
Don't mean to hijack your thread Henry but Binford here is the first person I've seen in a long time who's mentioned a UV sterilizer. Don't see many peoples talking about them any more but I've not heard anything bad about them.
Funny thing is I've been looking at the 9w inline uv's myself :)

allot people don't like them because they are designed to kill bacteria tha cause algae(good and bad)UV does not descriminate.It would take a huge amount of UV to destroy all the bacteria in a tank IMO tho.They have worked well for us and the main purpose of it is to kill algae.Just another .02

henry hill
02-20-2011, 02:10 AM
Bin, Thanks for the offer. Ive found out that I have bryopsis and cyano going on right now, not gha. Gonna wait to see if this Kent Tech does the trick. Next in line is a skimmer. Just cant figure out which one I want and will fit in one of the back chambers?

henry hill
02-23-2011, 06:54 PM
Mag has been 160-1650 for a week. No sighs yet, a little bit of the tips are turning white. I took drastic measures tonight! I took all the L/R out and took it up to Kee's and Jason put it in the 1000 gal for a cleaning! I also am raisinf the Mag to 1800 and I put in a dose of Marysin. Also turned out ALL the lights, shut the fans off and covered the tank. Not going to look at it until Sun!! We will see!
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rmalone
02-23-2011, 07:07 PM
The tips turning white was a good sign. You'll get that crap licked if you keep after it. The one bit of bryopsis I saw early on in my 180 got whacked by taking the rock out, physically removing everything I could, and then taking a propane torch to the whole area where the bryopsis was, worked great. Obviously if its all over the place and on every rock that wouldn't be practical. But if you have a little start up later it might be an option.

henry hill
03-05-2011, 03:11 PM
So L/R stayed in Kee's tank for a week. Its back in my tank since Wed. Already see the Algae growing back on a certain rock about the size of a small serving plate. Im going to loose it soon! The rest of the tank is free of Algae. Was thinking of taking the rock out and dumping Hydogen Peroxide on that area? Will this nuke the stuff?

binford4000
03-05-2011, 05:25 PM
So L/R stayed in Kee's tank for a week. Its back in my tank since Wed. Already see the Algae growing back on a certain rock about the size of a small serving plate. Im going to loose it soon! The rest of the tank is free of Algae. Was thinking of taking the rock out and dumping Hydogen Peroxide on that area? Will this nuke the stuff?

Honestly,if the rest of the tank is free of the algae,toss those rocks and get some cured base rock to replace those ones.They'll purple up fast enoigh and won't introduce any more problems,just my .02 tho

henry hill
03-05-2011, 05:53 PM
Wont work, I have 3 rocks put together with Harveys. Would have to destroy my half of my rock work to do that.

binford4000
03-05-2011, 06:01 PM
Wont work, I have 3 rocks put together with Harveys. Would have to destroy my half of my rock work to do that.

Ok,I'd try the kalwasser toothbrush then befor I went to the extreme of the peroxide.Mix some kalk to a paste.Coat the area's with algae and let it sit for awhile.Any coral on the rock will be ok out of the tank for a long time(5 min or so)Becareful to not get any on corals near by then brush of with ro. Good luck

MizTanks
03-05-2011, 06:05 PM
I've used this-it works awesome-and would use it again no matter what. I had HA about as bad as it gets.

http://www.aquacave.com/chem-marine-stop-hair-algae-6oz-962.html

binford4000
03-05-2011, 06:11 PM
I've used this-it works awesome-and would use it again no matter what. I had HA about as bad as it gets.

Chem Marine Stop Hair Algae, 6oz. - AquaCave (http://www.aquacave.com/chem-marine-stop-hair-algae-6oz-962.html)

Henry,this is the same product I told you about.I have a bottle and your welcome to use it.Maybee brush it on the trouble area's if your worried about the system being affected.Stuff does work tho on several types of alge.LMK

rmalone
03-05-2011, 06:51 PM
If it's a rock you can remove, sounds like it is, take the torch to the algae spot, high heat really does have a habit of killing living organisms. Peroxide isn't going to just flat whack it, I have used hydrogen dioxide in the greenhouse and while it helps with algae it doesn't obliterate it, and keep in mind the hydrogen dioxide I use is about 40%(it burns skin white instantly) while store bought peroxide is 3.5%. Just take a torch to the bad spot and see what happens, what do you have to lose?

MizTanks
03-05-2011, 08:45 PM
If it's a rock you can remove, sounds like it is, take the torch to the algae spot, high heat really does have a habit of killing living organisms. Peroxide isn't going to just flat whack it, I have used hydrogen dioxide in the greenhouse and while it helps with algae it doesn't obliterate it, and keep in mind the hydrogen dioxide I use is about 40%(it burns skin white instantly) while store bought peroxide is 3.5%. Just take a torch to the bad spot and see what happens, what do you have to lose?


Burning down the house :)

henry hill
03-06-2011, 04:59 AM
I am going to try some 35 percent and see what happens. I only have a few corals in the tank and can be easily moved. Havent added anything lately, dont want to till the problem is GONE.

henry hill
03-06-2011, 04:54 PM
Just NUKED the rock with the Peroxide I got from Jason. Lets hope this works. He said the stuff should go white tomarow. Looks like I might loose some Frog Spawn. Fish seem o.k. Took the rock out and did it in the laundry tub, let it sit for 5-10 min and then rinsed. Put it back in the tank and watched it bubble.

henry hill
03-07-2011, 07:52 AM
Peroxide is no good for inverts!! Turbos are dead and I think the Hermits bit the dust too. Fish seemed to be o.k. and what little corals are in the tank dont look so hot but hanging in there. Did a small w/c last night. Going to do a large one in a few hours and add some new Carbon.

MizTanks
03-07-2011, 08:27 AM
How long before you try the Chem-Marin Stop Hair Algae? I hate to see you going through all this when there is a 100% natural, reef safe solution. I don't mean to sound rude, truly I don't. I would never recommend something that I personally never used myself. Please give it a try :)

henry hill
03-07-2011, 10:30 AM
Will see what the outcome is. Going to do a water change right now, my Nitrtrates are up so that means there is some die off going on and the house stinks like dead Turbos. (There still movin) Just stinks!!

dewey
03-07-2011, 10:50 AM
I have a turbo and a well behaved emerald crab. Would have given to you if you were close to Canton.

henry hill
03-07-2011, 11:23 AM
Very kind of you, Thanks Just did a w/c, Turbos are hanging in there. Wife is ****ed the house stinks!!! Going to do another W/C tommarow.

dewey
03-07-2011, 06:38 PM
One option is to have a 2-3 day blackout and after another day do a good water change. Some hair algae will die off during blackout. Keep feeding your fish as usual and let ambient light flow in.

henry hill
03-08-2011, 03:11 PM
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! Leftover Algae is all white!! May have 1 or 2 spots smaller than half a dime. Have nothing but white rock now!:cryin: Just like starting over. I think most of the corals should pull threw, fish seem fine, Hermits might be dead.

dewey
03-09-2011, 06:05 AM
What did you do? How did hermits die? If hair algae died, you may want to do a water change to prevent ammonia spike.

henry hill
03-09-2011, 05:09 PM
Dewey, 3steps ahead of ya. Getting ready to do a second w/c tomarrow

henry hill
03-22-2011, 06:32 PM
Gonna post some pics tonight!!!!

MizTanks
03-22-2011, 06:35 PM
I thought we'd lost you in the jungle!!!!

henry hill
03-22-2011, 06:56 PM
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e212/cschmatz111/P3220261.jpghttp://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e212/cschmatz111/P3220266.jpghttp://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e212/cschmatz111/P3220279.jpghttp://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e212/cschmatz111/P3220294.jpg

henry hill
03-22-2011, 06:57 PM
Just a few for now.

Sir Patrick
03-22-2011, 09:25 PM
Algea gone, and staying gone?

henry hill
03-23-2011, 02:16 PM
Staying gone for now. We will see!

MizTanks
03-23-2011, 03:18 PM
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e212/cschmatz111/P3220261.jpghttp://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e212/cschmatz111/P3220266.jpghttp://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e212/cschmatz111/P3220279.jpghttp://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e212/cschmatz111/P3220294.jpg

Beautiful!!

henry hill
03-23-2011, 04:09 PM
Had a friend shut down his 220 gal and he let me take what I wanted. Still waiting for the h/f wrasse to come out.

AJ:)
03-25-2011, 05:34 AM
Glad to see you were able to recover!

Great shots too!