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larryandlaura
05-07-2011, 01:13 PM
Anyone know of a a quite overflow? How are the great lakes overflows?

mcleodm
05-07-2011, 01:58 PM
What kind of overflow are you talking about? A HOB, Drilled in the side, or Drilled in the bottom?

CalmSeasQuest
05-07-2011, 03:24 PM
If you have the space for it - IMO, Bean Animals (http://www.beananimal.com/projects/silent-and-fail-safe-aquarium-overflow-system.aspx) is the very best. it can be tuned to be virtually silent and has an almost foolproof safety feature.

If you don't have room for 3 drains, than use a Herbie. It's just as quiet, but you just lose the emergency drain.

larryandlaura
05-07-2011, 09:13 PM
Im looking for a drilled on the bottom tank. Laura wants a quite overflow. Im buying another new. aquarium and was wondering what brand was the best.

mcleodm
05-08-2011, 07:29 AM
I am not quite sure which "brand" would be the quietest, but, it depends on the plumbing used and water travel. My 120g has 1" PVC with two 90's at the top, and it runs very quiet. There are two holes in the first right angle, one on each side (I didn't setup the plumbing for that, so not sure if these are needed). The noise also depends on how far the water has to travel from the top of the overflow to the water level inside the overflow. The less distance it travels, the quieter it will run. So when planning the PVC for your bulkheads, leave about 2-3" from the top of the overflow. This keeps water from splashing around.

Other people have also made their overflows quiet by placing a zip lock bag in them. But im not familiar with how this works.

Edit: Because my tank is plumbed into the basement, the only noise i can hear is the water going down the supply line of the sump. This however is quickly masked by any noise in the room, due to the fact it is so quiet. So that means my overflows are completely silent, if you would like, I can send a picture.

tankdude
05-08-2011, 08:04 AM
I have a Great Lakes tank with an overflow, and it's super quiet. I don't know witch "brand" it is though.

CalmSeasQuest
05-08-2011, 09:29 AM
Other people have also made their overflows quiet by placing a zip lock bag in them. But im not familiar with how this works.

IME, There are 2 parts to making an overflow quiet, waterfall and drain(s).

Waterfall - Having the shortest waterfall possible tends to be quieter. Also, having water flow slow enough over the weir that it "adheres" to the backside of the overflow and limits the splashing noise That's where my Ziplock Silence mod (http://www.captivereefs.com/forum/basics/tips-you-might-not-read-book-12278/)comes in handy.

Drain(s) - A drain running full siphon is virtually silent and provides the greatest flow-through. The problem is safety. A drain running at full capacity provides no margin for error. Even a partial blockage or slow down can result in an overflow. It also tends to surge and gurgle as it goes in and out of full siphon based on the amount of water available in the overflow. This is where the Herbie or Bean Animal designs come in by providing a second (or in the case of the Bean, a third) overflow. You "tune" the primary overflow by slightly reducing the capacity of the primary, full siphon drain using a gate valve and allow a small amount of excess to go down the second drain - both of which are silent.

larryandlaura
05-08-2011, 03:02 PM
What is the zip lock bag trick?

CalmSeasQuest
05-08-2011, 03:11 PM
What is the zip lock bag trick?
Ziplock Silence mod (http://www.captivereefs.com/forum/basics/tips-you-might-not-read-book-12278/)

This only helps if your noise is emanating from the waterfall. It won't help quiet a noisy drain.

As an aside, I grew up in Houghton Lake - It's changed a lot in 35 years, but I still miss it sometimes.

larryandlaura
05-08-2011, 06:32 PM
Wow small world. I've lived up here for 14 years and alot has changed. Thanks for the all your help.

cbau45
05-08-2011, 08:48 PM
Honestly, if you want a fairly quiet overflow I would go with one of the following from glass-holes.com
They take up less room and are pretty quiet, plus they come with everything you need to install them yourself. There are how-to videos on their website to show you how to do it.

Complete Overflow Kits - Glass-Holes.com dope aquarium stuff (http://www.glass-holes.com/Complete-Overflow-Kits_c3.htm;jsessionid=07E82715586E725F0F5184FBD11 677B4.qscstrfrnt02)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD9CPqhtY88

Good luck with your build!

mcleodm
05-08-2011, 09:00 PM
glass holes is a great brand, however, they are for aquariums that are drilled in the back/side. So they generally can't sit near as close to the wall as bottom-drilled solutions.

My system is bottom drilled, and is almost inaudible. :thumbsup:

larryandlaura
05-09-2011, 02:26 PM
Wow that's quite.

pjr
05-09-2011, 02:45 PM
HAs anyone mentioned the Durso? Geez it's pretty easy to DIY --- he provides the plans on his site -- and it's very quiet! He's the dirst one who published this popular plan out there in the community several years ago.

I've done my own, but on the last tank I actually bought them from Durso (all my tools were packed away wheile we were between houses). Low cost and effective, about $20 each. What else could you need? :)

CalmSeasQuest
05-09-2011, 03:04 PM
HAs anyone mentioned the Durso? Geez it's pretty easy to DIY --- he provides the plans on his site -- and it's very quiet! He's the dirst one who published this popular plan out there in the community several years ago.

+1 I think all the methods mentioned use Durso type drains :)

larryandlaura
05-09-2011, 03:10 PM
Well ill order a tank from great lakes and make sure it has durso drains. I called kees and left my number and the owner never called me back with a price.