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FlynnFish
06-06-2011, 10:31 AM
Breeding Journal DataSheet

This first post should be updated regularly to include new information as events take place
or changes are made to your system


General
Species: Amphiprion Percula
Social Structure: mated pair
Size of Individuals: female 4-5 inches, male 4 inches
Age of Individuals: unknown
Date added to Tank: march 19 2011

Broodstock Tank Details
Size of Tank: 12gallons of a 100gallon system
Substrate Details: bare bottom
Filtration Details: deep sand bed, live rock, filter socks, macro algae, bio-pellet reactor, soon to have ozone hooked up
Water Changes: 30 gallons once everyother week
Water Temperature: 78.4
Lighting: vho bulbs
Lighting Cycle: lights on at 9am, lights off at 10:30pm
Other Tank Inhabitants: pair o black ocellaris, and a pair of banded pipefish share space in system but not in tank

Broodstock Feeding Details
Food Types: TDO EP1
Feeding Schedule: three times a day

Spawning Details
Date of First Spawn: unknown- pair was a mated pair before purchase, first for me --6/5/11
Spawn Time of Day: daytime
Dates of Consecutive Spawns: 6/5/2011, 6/19/2011, 7/6/2011*, 7/23/11, 8/8/11*, 8/26/11, 9/5/11, 9/19/11*, 10/8/11, 10/24/11
Courtship Details: unknown
Egg Size: 1mm
Egg Color: bright orange
Egg Count: 300 -500

Hatch Details
Hatch Date: 7/6/118/8/11,9/27/11
Hatch Time of Day: about midnight, about midnight, midnight
# Days after Spawn: 8 days, 8 days, 8 days
Larvae Description: clearish big silver eyes, clearish orange with silver eyes, silver bellies, light orange with brown tinge, big silver eyes, silver bellies


Larval Tank Details
Temperature: 80.2, 78.6,78.9
Size of Larval Tank:30 gallons, 13 gallons,13 gallons
Substrate Details:bare bottom, bare bottom, bare bottom
Other Tank Decor: heater air stone- one rock,airstone, air stone, heater
Filtration Details: HOB filter, sock filter, deep sand bed, live rock, macro algae, skimmer, bio pellet reactor, carbon, same as last
Lighting: PC, VHO, same as last
Lighting Cycle: 9:30 am - 10 :30pm, lights on at 9:3am,lights off at 10:30pm, same
Water Changes: none, none at present time , same as last

Larval Feeding Details
Food Types: rotifers- Otohime A, rotifers, Otohime A, Rotifers
Feeding Schedule: three times a day, three times a day, once a day

Metamorphosis/Settlement
Date of Settlement Start: 7/22/11, 8/26/11,10/6/11
Days after Hatch: 7,18, 9
Date of Settlement End: 7/23/11, 8/26/11
Description of Fry: swiming like normal clowns- have head stripe, head stripe visiable, normal swimming patterns

Grow-Out Tank Details
Temperature: varies 78-80.3, same
Size of Grow-Out Tank: 20 gallons of a 120 gallon system, same
Substrate Details: bare bottom, same
Other Tank Decor: ricordia mushroom coral, none
Filtration Details: filter sock, deep sand bed, macro algae, live rock, ASM skimmer, bio media reactor., same
Lighting: VHO, same
Lighting Cycle: on at 9:30 am, off at 10:30pm, same
Water Changes: once a week, 30% once a week
Size at Transfer: 1/4 inch, 1/8 inch
Age at Transfer: 35 days old, 31 days old

Grow-Out Feeding Details
Food Types: Otohime S1, new life spectrum thera +A crushed, TDO B2
Feeding Schedule: three times a day, same

Additional Information
Miscellaneous Information: *- indicates spawns that were collected for raising. information in red represent second batch rearing , Blue indicates third batch rearing.

bigbill
06-06-2011, 11:10 AM
congratzs put me on the list :-]

FlynnFish
06-06-2011, 01:55 PM
[/COLOR]Picture of parents. Male in background, female in foreground.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/fish%20breeding/truepercula.jpg

Picture of egg clutch
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/fish%20breeding/perculaeggs2.jpg

I feel like scraping off the corline algae with the eggs on it and setting it into my tank that has the picassos so they can see it and get a clue to start laying their own eggs, lol. but it was really exciting to see these on the side of the tank, i didn't think would do anything in such a small area.

bigbill
06-06-2011, 02:07 PM
yea hope the do well i want a pair of them for the 12 gallon nano
gl ill be tom want to look at these things before i dose my tank

FlynnFish
06-13-2011, 02:18 PM
Eggs hatched this morning sometime between 10:30 and 1. My lights are backwards.
Today I drug out some old tile squares from the crawl space and will give them a nice washing then will place them into the tank. hope the clowns will lay their next batch on these.

FlynnFish
06-21-2011, 11:30 AM
My clowns laid more eggs on the 19th. But they decided not to use the tile. :( They picked another wall spot on the other side of the tank. I might try to raise these ones but I am scheduled for vacation next weekend for three days and they will only be 4 days old, unless I can talk my bested buddy Bill to babysit for me ;) ;)

FlynnFish
06-27-2011, 07:32 AM
Eggs are set to hatch today. I'm finding myself with a tank all set up and waiting, and a bucket with a syphoning tube on standby today. lights go off at 11am and i'll be sitting and waiting. I have a clear acrylic partition over the sump that holds up a calcium reactor. On that i have a small flashlight sitting pointing into the tank and under the flashlight i have a dixie cup with the bottom cut out and thick dark fabric in it to act as aid to make a spot light to attract the fry once they hatch. shortly after 11 I will turn of the pumps and keep my fingers crossed.

larryandlaura
06-27-2011, 07:51 AM
Awesome can't wait for a update. Good luck!

FlynnFish
06-27-2011, 01:06 PM
Got the first one out a11:15 and they have been hatching in waves. I turn the flashlight off for a few minutes here and there to see if it is effecting the hatch rate or not. iI have almost 60 in a bucket now, looks to be around 100 left. (suddenly realized how many babies there are) sigh.

FlynnFish
06-27-2011, 05:59 PM
Only half hatched today, but I counted around 124 in the bucket when I moved them to the tank.

FlynnFish
06-30-2011, 12:32 PM
I was trying to feed the babies the Otohime A and didnt offer any rotifers (because i didn't have any) and wanted to see if they would take to it and they seemed to do decent for a bit but evetually all ended up dying off. so . . . NEED ROTIFERS!! lol. I just got a shipment in 2 minutes ago of rotifers. so i'm ready for the next batch!

FlynnFish
07-04-2011, 07:24 PM
Heres the pictures
ok... photobucket is being wacko.
i'll post in a few when they download

FlynnFish
07-07-2011, 07:16 AM
Yay Photobucket was finally downloading my pictures.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/IMG_2896.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/IMG_2898.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/IMG_2897.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/IMG_2900.jpg

FlynnFish
07-14-2011, 07:05 AM
New set of fry are due to hatch today, but of course I have to work today. I am going to turn off the fuge lights early to see if I can get them to hatch before I leave for work, if not then I will leave the light on til I get home and collect the fry then.

larryandlaura
07-14-2011, 08:05 AM
Another fry already! What is the survival rate?

FlynnFish
07-14-2011, 11:43 AM
yes another batch is ready. I got two out this morning so when I get home today I will turn the lights off and try again.I have my greenwater tank set up filled with rotifers waiting when I get home.
Survival rates are all different each time. It depends on the health of the broodstock, health of the tank, health of the food, what you feed the larva and how much, and just the larva themselves.
I raised 10 clarkiis from 70 that hatched, I raised 49 ocellaris from 80 that hatched, then I raised nothing on the 100+ percula fry from last month, and raised nothing on two attempts at lyretail damsels.
Theres a lot of factors that determine success rates and its always different. If everything is automated or you're very precice about everything then maybe you would be able to get an average success rate.

FlynnFish
07-15-2011, 10:32 AM
Yesterday late night I pulled 35 larva from the tank and this morning I pulled 73 for a total of 103 (give or take). they are in greenwater with rotifers this time. I left the light on last night so the larva can get some good food into their bellies.
heres a picture of the fry in the bucket this morning.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/2011-07-15080731_Warren_Michigan_US.jpg

FlynnFish
07-20-2011, 09:24 PM
Percula babies are doing well. I had to do a water change on monday ecause the rotigreen started turning brown. I only have 6 babies left. I 'm unsure of why I only have 6 but 6 is better than nothing at all. Babies are fat and healthy. Heres a video I took today.

‪perc baby meta.MOV‬‏ - YouTube

bigbill
07-20-2011, 09:32 PM
great video how the heck u zoom in so much and still get a good shot

FlynnFish
07-20-2011, 10:41 PM
It is so freakin' hard!! I'm using my husbands canon Rebel T2i with a marco lens. To get a video and keep it in focus I needed to have it on manual focus. As the fish moves I have to refocus every time.

FlynnFish
07-23-2011, 09:27 PM
I took a couple pictures the other day. These are 5 day old fry.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/IMG_3047.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/IMG_3048.jpg

Went to the MBI Workshop today, which was great!, when I got home I found this..
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/IMG_3054.jpg
more eggs!
And something more awesome I found today...
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/IMG_3058.jpg
The fry have their first stripe today! They have deffinately reached meta already at 8 days old!

MizTanks
07-23-2011, 10:03 PM
:fireworks::bananas::party::best-wishes::congratswave: I'm just a little happy for you FlynnFish!!!

FlynnFish
07-24-2011, 08:51 AM
Lol. Thanks MIz! :jester:

If you can't tell the broodstock have been moved to a new system on 7/18/11 and seem to like it if they are already laying eggs.

FlynnFish
08-13-2011, 07:10 PM
Fry are doing great! one swam past 5 layers of matala filtering material and made it's way into the filter sock of the sump and didn't make it. but i still have 5 left and they are doing just fine. they are now 29 days old and still have just a head stripe. it takes a while for the rest of the stripes to come in.
Parents laid more eggs that are set to hatch on Tuesday night, i will try to raise these ones also. i'll post pics when i get them off the camera.

FlynnFish
08-17-2011, 07:13 AM
almost all eggs hatched last night. Only 4 remain on the tile. a lot of them are swimming around but quite a bit are sitting at the bottom. i added more rots and greenwater to the tank and uped the air bubbles to get a bit more circulation. there is still some maracyn in my rots culture that i am forced to feed the new fry as my second bucket now shows signs of a bacteria infection. I am hoping the maracyn does not effect the bactria in the frys stomachs.

FlynnFish
09-10-2011, 08:06 AM
Percula babies are doing great, last week they started getting their belly stripes, and my new set has reached meta about two weeks ago and they have their head stripe. i will try to get pictures today and post them up. :) Another batch of eggs are set to hatch tuesday night.

FlynnFish
09-20-2011, 07:35 AM
well the eggs from the last post hatched and i forgot to move the tile before going to bed, so I missed the babies, but my perculas have laid eggs again yesterday and I have good news! my first batch of perculas are 60DPS today!!! yay!!!!! pictures to come when the lights turn on.

FlynnFish
09-20-2011, 03:20 PM
Heres the pictures!
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/IMG_3343.jpg there are 4 in one cube and the fifth one is in the other cube on the left.
and heres a pic of the new batch of eggs laid yesterday.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/IMG_3347.jpg

FlynnFish
09-28-2011, 10:32 AM
pictures of first reared batch at 75 days old
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/IMG_3343.jpg


second reared batch at 43 days old
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/2011-09-28101151_Warren_Michigan_US.jpg


third reared batch at 10 hours old
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/2011-09-28095159.jpg

FlynnFish
11-01-2011, 02:40 PM
:angelsad: My male Percula, Percy (pronounced Perky), decided to get a divorce from his wife, packed his bags, and went surfing on the rolling almond waves of tile of the Laundry Room Sea. :crying:
Percy left behind his wife Big Bess, and 15 children that are at home and his other 15 children at their adoptive parents home of BigBill, and his clutch of eggs that are due to hatch tonight that are being adopted by CableGuy.
Rest In Peace Percy the Percula.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/IMG_3347.jpg
Percy is in the middle by the eggs.
:crying::crying:

hardcz
11-01-2011, 05:24 PM
looks like fun

FlynnFish
11-01-2011, 09:53 PM
I brought home another man for Big Bess. She seems to tolerate him at best. she has done some shaking at him and has mocked charged at him but the little guy has stood his ground and has not run away from her, we will have to see if he survives the night.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/2011-11-01214546.jpg

MizTanks
11-02-2011, 12:27 AM
Oh my lol he looks dwarfed next to her-one for the girls!

Flynnstone
11-02-2011, 08:33 AM
lol. Yeah hes a little less than half her size. So far so good, he's still swimming around the tank. The new guy is still young, about 10 months old or so. He is a misbar picasso, if that makes sence, lol. He has a little wiggle in his midstripe but they don't touch all the way and he is still developing the tail stripe, he is one of Tals offspring that I picked up back in April. I'm hoping they get along ok.


lol. I didn't know I was signed in under my husbands account. LOL.

Flynnfish

MizTanks
11-02-2011, 09:46 AM
lol. Yeah hes a little less than half her size. So far so good, he's still swimming around the tank. The new guy is still young, about 10 months old or so. He is a misbar picasso, if that makes sence, lol. He has a little wiggle in his midstripe but they don't touch all the way and he is still developing the tail stripe, he is one of Tals offspring that I picked up back in April. I'm hoping they get along ok.


lol. I didn't know I was signed in under my husbands account. LOL.

Flynnfish

I knew who you were anyways :) lol

FlynnFish
11-03-2011, 11:16 AM
Big Bess and her new "Boy Toy" are starting to get along rather well. Bess is letting the new guy get a little closer now without trying trying to scare him away or trying to bite him. :thumbsup:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/fish%20breeding/2011-11-03104833.jpg

bigbill
11-03-2011, 01:52 PM
Big Bess and her new "Boy Toy" are starting to get along rather well. Bess is letting the new guy get a little closer now without trying trying to scare him away or trying to bite him. :thumbsup:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/fish%20breeding/2011-11-03104833.jpg
very nice where did u get him at ?

FlynnFish
11-03-2011, 02:11 PM
Hey Bill,
He's been up at the store for a few months now, can't really remember when we got him. . .somewhere between April and June. ??? Ok , just went back through records and we got him from Tal back in June. so I would assume by the size I got him at that he was around 5 months old then and now it's November. . .so yeah about 10 months old. The female seems like she might have eggs in her belly, but this new fish is not ready to be an active male yet, I'm just hoping I don't loose the female now cuz she may retain the eggs. Some clowns can hold the eggs until they feel safe enough to lay them and if that hance doesn't arise they can actually disolve the eggs and use the nutrients back up. just crossing my fingers.

FlynnFish
11-08-2011, 04:27 PM
Big Bess and her mate are etting along great now. The lttle guy finally went into submission last night and every time Bess comes over hes does his wiggle dance.


http://youtu.be/ODg_XVNhb9c

CableGuy
11-15-2011, 02:14 PM
Very cool! The eggs you gave me are doing great... They are now 14 days old and looking great!

FlynnFish
11-15-2011, 02:24 PM
Awesome! how many do you have?? post some pics!

CableGuy
11-15-2011, 03:58 PM
Awesome! how many do you have?? post some pics!


I'd say around 200 right now.

I counted 110 in this pic.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q5z04lw7LHw/Tr7lvl0i7eI/AAAAAAAABFk/E_yWIMlx63U/s640/2011-11-12_16-24-14_645.jpg



This was taken yesterday with my Droid. (Crappy photo)

13DPH

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-d24ks9iD7pc/TsLSHFRzI6I/AAAAAAAABGE/_2v3YqcuYjo/s640/2011-11-14_22-34-10_200.jpg

FlynnFish
11-16-2011, 02:58 PM
that is just too cool Adam!! i had never had that many survive at once. great job!

Well Big Bess is huge and picking furiously at the side of the tank. the ovidepositor is slightly showing. I'm hoping that if she does lay eggs that the male will know what to do and fetilize them. the male, now named Gil (from the movie The New Guy) is watching Bess and what she is doing but not taking any part in cleaning a nest area. I really hope he comes through, it will amazing to know a percula male is viable at only 10 months old, and to know that a replacement can be achieved so easily.

FlynnFish
11-16-2011, 09:00 PM
Big Bess laid some eggs, but to what parts i sat and watched Gil did not fertilize any eggs, he is still terrified of Bess. he was allowed near the eggs but anytime Bess turned around Gil went into retreat. Only time will tell on how things went. here's some pictures.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/fish%20breeding/IMG_3424.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/fish%20breeding/IMG_3417.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/fish%20breeding/IMG_3419.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/fish%20breeding/IMG_3421.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/fish%20breeding/IMG_3423.jpg

FlynnFish
11-17-2011, 07:05 AM
Big Bess is teaching Gil how to take care of the eggs. The egg clutch is bigger than Gil, I can see the confusion in his face.- "What am I supposed to do with ALL OF THIS!!"
In the video Gil tries his fins at egg care but you see Bess come in and teach him how to do it right,
Gil- "I don't know what I'm doing!"
Bess- " OMG! you're being an idiot! Just do this, mouth them a bit, then fan them with your fins. Man up."
Gil- " Are these even mine?"
lol.

http://youtu.be/kk759maNBno

FlynnFish
11-17-2011, 11:27 AM
I took a look at the eggs this morning and some of them had turned white, which means they are non-living. a lot are still orange but again only time will tell if any were fertilized. here's a crappy phone pic.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/shannyfly/Besscleaningoutbadeggs.jpg

CableGuy
11-17-2011, 02:33 PM
LOL @ the commentary.

FlynnFish
11-20-2011, 09:52 AM
well, all of the eggs had turned white and picked off by Bess. None of them got fertilized. now that Gil has some experience under his bar maybe the next clutch will be successfull.

FlynnFish
02-12-2012, 10:21 AM
started a new thread because it is technically a new pair--
:)
http://www.captivereefs.com/forum/breeding-journals/breeding-journal-amphiprion-percula-new-mate-20036/