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CalmSeasQuest
01-04-2012, 07:24 AM
I'm going to rebuild the "PuzzleRock (http://www.captivereefs.com/forum/nano-contest/calmseasquests-36-nano-build-11873/)" tank that sits on my office desk and was my 21011 Nano tank entry...
http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy141/tconwell/Nano%20Contest/DSC_0929.jpg
http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy141/tconwell/Nano%20Contest/DSC_1267.jpg
That tank was a lot of fun to build, and the method of creating and using slabbed live rock hadn't been done before. The downside was, the aquascaping was so dense, that when coupled with the small tank dimensions - I never felt it fair to add any fish. As a result, the first question from every visitor to my office was "where are the fish"?
And now for something completely different...
This tank will go in a new direction. This will be something of a minimalist mixed reef (I might even add a couple nano fish to satisfy the visitors :))
Equipment List
Tank - Mr. Aqua 12 Long (36" X 8" X 9") ~12 gallons in dimension, (7.5 gallons water) Fitted with an 8" overflow creating a 3"X3"x8" mini-sump area.
Lights - Catalina Solar Black 4 X 39W T5 (ATI Blue+, Blue+, AquaBlue, KZ Fiji Purple) + ReefBrite 36" LED 50%/50% Royal Blue / White
Return Pump - Eheim 600 Compact set at 160 GPH.
Controller - Apex Aquacontroller, lab grade pH, ORP, PM2 with salinity probe.
Skimmer - DIY CSQ 2X12 Luft-airstone driven skimmer with Hydor Pico Evolution pump, bubble plate and remote skimmate collection
Mechanical filtration - AquaClear 20 with custom InTANK media insert using Chemipure Elite and Purigen as needed.
Biological Filtration - Marine Pure Ceramic Biomedia Spheres (compensating for limited live rock) and Mangroves
ATO - Elos Osmocontroller feeding Kalk laden RO/DI
Dosing - BRS 2-Part via 2 BRS peristaltic dosing pumps controlled by the Apex
Water movement - 1X MP-10Wes running ReefCrest @ 10%
Live Rock - Zip, Zero, Nada
Substrate - Tropic Eden Reef Flakes
Heater - Hydor 100 Watt
Stock List
Item Source Cost Sponsor Hit to Nano Spending Cap Remaining Cap
$400.00
6 Ricordia ($99/16=$8.25 ea) CoralMorphologic $49.50 Yes $24.75 $375.25
16 frags from Monti Pack ($199/20=$9.95 ea.) Private sale $132.00 No $132.00 $243.25
2 Polyps Grandis Paly * Own Tank $10.00 No $10.00 $233.25
2 Polyps Cinnamin Paly CoralMorphologic $12.00 Yes $6.00 $227.25
4 Acan Lord Frags Mr. Coral $40.00 Yes $20.00 $207.25
Galaxia Mr. Coral $10.00 Yes $5.00 $202.25
3P - Purple Deaths SirPatrick $9.00 No $9.00 $193.25
3P - Pink Zippers SirPatrick $18.00 No $18.00 $175.25
3P - Tiger Tails SirPatrick $9.00 No $9.00 $166.25
6P - Kedds Reds SirPatrick $12.00 No $12.00 $154.25
4P - AOG * Own Tank $20.00 No $20.00 $134.25
4P - Nuclear Green* Own Tank $20.00 No $20.00 $114.25
Purple Photosynthetic Gorgonian Frag * Own Tank $10.00 No $10.00 $104.25
Clove Polyps Mr.Coral $10.00 Yes $5.00 $99.25
3X Gonipora Mr. Coral $30.00 Yes $15.00 $84.25
Toadstool Frag * Own Tank $25.00 No $25.00 $59.25
GSP frag * Own Tank $10.00 No $10.00 $49.25
Sympodium Mr. Coral $10.00 Yes $5.00 $44.25
1P - Unknown Paly * Own Tank $5.00 No $5.00 $39.25
2P - Sunflower Paly * Own Tank $4.00 No $4.00 $35.25
Pectinia Mr. Coral $10.00 Yes $5.00 $30.25
$455.50 $369.75 $30.25
larryandlaura
01-04-2012, 07:42 AM
Sweet tank and ideas.
CalmSeasQuest
01-04-2012, 03:50 PM
Sweet tank and ideas.
Thanks!
We'll I've decided which concept I'm going to build :big_grin: I think I'll keep the details under wraps until I've got some photos to share. This design will require quite a bit of work on the tank while dry, so rather than close down my existing desktop tank and move the livestock, I've decided to order another identical tank. They are back-ordered at the moment so it might take a week or two before work on the tank itself begins.
In the interim, I've placed a few orders for the materials and tools needed. I've also decided to upgrade the filtration to a large canister filter (Fluval 406) which will be modified to function more as a sump. This will allow me to remove multiple pieces of equipment that detract from the look of the tank including the HOB AC filter, Tunze 9002 skimmer and 6015 power-head.
I'm excited to get it going :)
creefer
01-04-2012, 08:08 PM
Very interested to see what you do with this, Tom.
CalmSeasQuest
01-05-2012, 03:28 PM
Very interested to see what you do with this, Tom.
Thanks Chris - Me too!
Big box from US Plastics on the porch - I guess I know what I'll be doing this weekend :)
rosebud161616
01-05-2012, 08:08 PM
Ooooooo building your own acrylic tank? Or is this acrylic to add to something else? Come on, give us a hint! :propellerhead:
CalmSeasQuest
01-05-2012, 08:18 PM
Ooooooo building your own acrylic tank? Or is this acrylic to add to add to something else? Come on, give us a hint! :propellerhead:
Aaaalright - I'll answer one question...Yes :big_grin:
rosebud161616
01-05-2012, 08:27 PM
Aaaalright - I'll answer one question...Yes :big_grin:
Ahhhhhh which question are you answering???? :doh:
MizTanks
01-05-2012, 10:57 PM
This is going to be fun!!
CalmSeasQuest
01-06-2012, 12:58 PM
This is going to be fun!!
Thanks Jamie - I spent a few more hours last night (early this morning) on the designs. I must say, I'm very excited about this concept and build.
I hope it works in actuality as well as it does in my "minds eye" :)
CalmSeasQuest
01-06-2012, 01:09 PM
Ooooooo building your own acrylic tank? Or is this acrylic to add to something else? Come on, give us a hint! :propellerhead:
Aaaalright - I'll answer one question...Yes :big_grin:
Ahhhhhh which question are you answering???? :doh:
LOL - I'm so sorry Erika, I see now how my response might have been a bit "unilluminating". I assure you it was not unintentional ;)
To make amends, I'll disclose another supplier for this build that will undoubtedly paint a precise picture as to the nature of the design...
Today I took delivery of a shipment from K&J Magnetics.
There, now I'm sure you've got it :big_grin:
MizTanks
01-06-2012, 01:16 PM
Thanks Jamie - I spent a few more hours last night (early this morning) on the designs. I must say, I'm very excited about this concept and build.
I hope it works in actuality as well as it does in my "minds eye" :)
Hopefully your mind doesn't play as good of tricks on you as mine does on me :big_grin:
CalmSeasQuest
01-09-2012, 10:30 AM
I'll be a bit delayed in getting some of the needed components - most importantly the tank itself. Apparently these MA 12 long tanks are sold out everywhere with no stock expected prior to the end of the month. I managed to get some help from Geoff at 7Ports (the US distributor for MA.) Geoff helped me track down 2 of these tanks - apparently just about the last 2 left Stateside. The West coast retailer that has them doesn't normally ship, so they don't have the needed shipping containers. Geoff was kind enough to ship the retailer the proper container - and did so at no cost. Hopefully I'll have "glass" in a week or so.
On the fabrication end, I'm going through the acrylic learning curve. Just as well the tank has been delayed, as it's taking me longer than anticipated to complete the design and fabrication of the acrylic components. I'm also still waiting on a TAPP plastics shipment.
On a good note, the stocking plan for this tank is very simple and I already have much of the livestock on hand. I'm going to get a cycle started on the Fluval 406 and the bio-media using an existing tank, hoping to shorten the time needed to cycle the new tank.
AJ :)
01-09-2012, 10:46 AM
Sounds like you have a lot planned.
Looking forward to this build. :)
CalmSeasQuest
01-09-2012, 11:23 AM
Sounds like you have a lot planned.
Looking forward to this build. :)
Thanks AJ!
It's strange, looking this concept and design on paper and in Sketchup ...it seems very simple. Come time to start fitting acrylic, it suddenly becomes complex. I suspect it has more to do with my skill level (or lack thereof) than the complexity of the design. :smash:
rosebud161616
01-09-2012, 11:53 AM
LOL - I'm so sorry Erika, I see now how my response might have been a bit "unilluminating". I assure you it was not unintentional ;)
To make amends, I'll disclose another supplier for this build that will undoubtedly paint a precise picture as to the nature of the design...
Today I took delivery of a shipment from K&J Magnetics.
There, now I'm sure you've got it :big_grin:
Hahaha I just saw this... I think things are only getting more confusing now! Can't wait to see what is coming! :propellerhead:
AJ :)
01-09-2012, 12:15 PM
Well, you have to start somewhere. Few things teach better than experience.
Probably after a few parts it will come together easier.
CalmSeasQuest
01-13-2012, 01:48 PM
Work on the design continues while I wait for the tanks to be delivered. I was able to finalize the feature inhabitants....A beautiful pair of Ta'ls Picassos....err Talcassos :)
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Talcassos.jpg
The larger two in the photo will be taking up residence on my desk.
http://youtu.be/KiQ6vhrUm0M
They will likely have this tank all to their own - and if all goes well, a comfy RBTA to call home.
rosebud161616
01-13-2012, 05:58 PM
Those are beautiful fish! Very jealous!
Sir Patrick
01-13-2012, 10:48 PM
The piecing together of acrylic has gotten me perplexed.......I have no idea what plans you might have!
CalmSeasQuest
01-14-2012, 03:12 PM
Those are beautiful fish! Very jealous!
Thanks Erika :)
The piecing together of acrylic has gotten me perplexed.......I have no idea what plans you might have!
It's got me a bit perplexed too :) I'll also be surprised to see how this all turns out.
CalmSeasQuest
01-14-2012, 03:33 PM
A bit of an update -
I got word that the tanks should ship on Monday. That will allow me to do the build at home, without tearing down the current office tank.
As I mentioned, I'm new to acrylic fabrication - As I progress through the learning curve, I've found that my existing table saw is not fit for acrylic duty. Its replacement will be here Monday along with an 80 tooth, triple chip ground, PermaSheild Diablo blade. I'm done screwing around with having to spend more time cleaning up every cut then it took to make the cut. :smash:
I'm still waiting for quite a few pieces and parts - some coming from as far as Japan. It will likely be a couple of weeks before I've got much to show.
On a more exciting note, although I hadn't yet given much thought to a coral stocking plan, I stumbled on an opportunity I just couldn't pass up. A huge, mostly LE Monti collection - delivered for $190
Tyree Superman monti
Tyree Pokerstar Monti
Tyree Purple Haze
Tyree Sunset
Tyree Seasons Greetings
Copps Vesuvious
Tyree Palawensis
Tyree Undata
LA Lakers
Tyree Pink Sand Dollar
Tyree Setosa
Tyree Flower Petal Cap
Tyree aequituberculata
Leng Sy Cap
Tyree Idaho Grape
Confusa, spongotes
ATL Forest Fire Digi
Greg Hillers Teal digi
Orange Digi
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Monti1.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Monti2.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Monti3.jpg
MizTanks
01-14-2012, 05:01 PM
Wow awesome pack is putting it mildly! MontiNano-has a nice ring to it don't ya think? :)
rosebud161616
01-14-2012, 11:30 PM
Wow that is quite the collection! I know you said stocking plans are unknown, but is the current feeling to include most of these?
CalmSeasQuest
01-15-2012, 09:37 AM
Wow awesome pack is putting it mildly! MontiNano-has a nice ring to it don't ya think? :)
Thanks Jamie, I'm hopeful they look that good once received. MontiNano is cute, but for reasons that will be evident later - I think a different name will apply :)
Wow that is quite the collection! I know you said stocking plans are unknown, but is the current feeling to include most of these?
Thanks Erika - I'm not sure. Truthfully, I had a somewhat different plan in mind, but when I saw those at that price point - I just couldn't pass them up. I'm trying to adjust the plan to see what will fit.
I can tell you that I'm planning on including these (or at least some of them)...
http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy141/tconwell/Reef/IMG_20120106_143653.jpg
These were purchased through Colin at Coral Morphologic. That photo was taken during acclimation and really doesn't show the beautiful coloration. Most are multiple-mouths and now that they are happy, have since doubled in size.
I also acquired some Mangrove Propagules that I'm hoping will be part of this build.
AJ :)
01-15-2012, 10:18 AM
That's a great selection to choose from.
Thanks for the updates. :)
CalmSeasQuest
01-17-2012, 10:35 AM
Tanks shipped - I should have them on Friday and be able to sart mocking up over the weekend. :)
I'm not sure which direction I'm going to take with filtration. For reasons that will become apparent, this tank is going to be a bit atypical when it comes to reef filtration schemes.
For the moment at least, I'm planning on running without a skimmer. The current tank's skimmer produces next to nothing due to the very light bio-load. As this next build will be home to a pair of Clowns, I'll need to accommodate a larger bio-load. I've got an AC50 fitted with an InTank insert that will fit perfectly on the end of the tank, but it's so small, it will limit my media options. I also purchased a Fluval 406 that provides tons of flow and filtration (maybe a bit too much, but it can be dialed back) and gives me much more room and options for media. I'll have to see which method works best as the pieces start coming together.
I ordered a Elos Osmocontroller. My Tunze Osmolators have functioned perfectly, but the sensor and back up float take up a huge amount of space (relative to a 12 gallon tank.) The Elos uses a single, tiny sensor that should all but disappear in this design and as I use an Apex salinity probe as a fail-safe, I'm not worried about the loss of the float.
I also received a few items that I have been waiting on from Japan. So far, everything is as I had hoped - I'm very excited. :big_grin:
creefer
01-17-2012, 06:21 PM
Wow!! Awesome livestock, Tom!! I'm even more intrigued than before.
Sir Patrick
01-18-2012, 12:14 AM
Sweet! Friday!!!
CalmSeasQuest
01-21-2012, 11:27 AM
We have glass...
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/IMG_20120121_093127.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/IMG_20120121_093512.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/IMG_20120121_093338.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/IMG_20120121_094156.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/IMG_20120121_113712.jpg
My present challenge is how to hide most of the equipment. This tank will sit on my office desk, and as I travel a lot it has to be as self-sufficient as possible. This includes filtration that can go for a couple weeks without being touched, ATO, 2-part dosing and the Apex probes. As the location doesn't allow for a sump - it all has to be crammed into the tank with minimum detraction from what I hope will be a minimalistic look.
My first thought was to duplicate the filtration used in the 2011 Nano build (http://www.captivereefs.com/forum/nano-contest/calmseasquests-36-nano-build-11873/), which consisted of an AquaClear 70 HOB modded with an InTank insert. I purchased a smaller version (AC50) which fits nicely on the end of the tank.
Although it fits nicely, the drawbacks are that it provides much less space for filtration media and the fact that it occupies all of the tank end wall, leaving no space for dosing, ATO or probes. The filtration concerns are paramount as this tank will be home to a pair of clown fish and (eventually) a BTA.
After consideration, I decided to "upscale" the filtration. I installed a Fluval 406 canister. This allows for far more mechanical, chemical and biological filtration and opens up more space for the rest of the equipment...
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/IMG_20120121_113859.jpg
I've attached a surface skimmer to the intake of the Fluval that allows me to "balance" the filtration between surface skimming and bottom filtration. In addition to what's shown, I still have to add the pH, ORP and Salinity probes, the Elos Osmocontroller sensor and ATO and the Ca and Alk dosing tubes (I'm going to polish off the brand name on the probe holder.) I've had great success with the Hydor Theo heaters - I'm going to try and use only 50 watts due to its diminutive size. In the 2011 build, 50 watts was not enough, but I think the evaporative cooling from the AquaClear 70 and the skimmer contributed to the heat loss. I'm hoping that the Fluval will result in less heat loss and that 50W will be enough.
It will be a tight fit, but everything should fit on the end wall. :smash: It's a bunch of mechanics crammed into a tiny tank, but I'm hoping the design elements of the tank will minimize the impact.
AJ :)
01-21-2012, 12:25 PM
Great looking tank! Nice dimensions. :)
How much reserve water will you use for your ATO?
Perhaps a glass top would help evap when you are away?
CalmSeasQuest
01-21-2012, 01:25 PM
Great looking tank! Nice dimensions. :)
How much reserve water will you use for your ATO?
Perhaps a glass top would help evap when you are away?
Thanks AJ,
My Kalk saturated ATO is kept in a sealed 7 gallon bucked hidden beneath my desk. The 2011 build evaporates ~1/2 GPD, so it's good for about 2 weeks. I suspect this build will evaporate a bit less as I've removed the AC70 (and the waterfall) and also the skimmer. This tank will also have less flow than the prior - all of which should extend the ATO capacity.
I don't think a top would work well on this tank - I base my dosing plan on the evaporation. The more Kalk I can introduce, the less 2-part is required. This also lessens the salinity creep resulting from dosing large amounts of 2-part in smaller systems.
I found a temporary use for the AC50 - It will serve as a nursery for some Mangrove propagules until the tank is complete...
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/IMG_20120121_141850-1.jpg
CalmSeasQuest
02-05-2012, 03:07 PM
Sorry for the lack of progress, business has kept me largely away from this project for the past couple weeks. A few updates....
The Fluval 406 canister filter has a leak and will be returned. Strange how things work out - I think the failure of the 406 gave me a better, simpler filtration idea.
Acrylic fabrication is done (finally) I finished the last of the flame polishing today.
I'm waiting on a pump and a couple of fittings - with any luck the tank will be wet within the week.
These tanks were initially sold out everywhere. I ended up working directly with the importer. I originally ordered one tank and stand - due to some miscommunication, I ended up getting three tanks and 2 stands. I'll no doubt come up with plans for them :)
I created a bulkhead for this tank in hopes of hiding most of the equipment and gaining better surface skimming. It's a bit crude as I cut the teeth for the weir using a table saw as my router was DOA.
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Weir.jpg
It's amazing how some of the simplest things can take the most time and patience. I spent far too long creating this stone bridge...
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Stones.jpg
CalmSeasQuest
02-06-2012, 09:27 AM
Original post updated to reflect changes in equipment...
Added a small return pump (Eheim 600 Compact)
Replaced Tunze Osmolator with Elos Osmocontroller to reduce space required by the sensor.
Changed from auto water change to 2-part dosing for better pH/dKh and Ca management.
Changed from ROX 0.8 GAC and BRS Hi Cap GFO to Chemipure Elite and Purigen (better fit for space limitations and easier maintenance.)
Added Marine Pure Ceramic Biomedia Spheres as very little live rock will be utilized. (The porosity of the Marine Pure Biomedia is amazing - water literally runs right through them.)
nate_newton
02-07-2012, 12:38 AM
Thanks for the update. I have wondering about the Marine Pure Ceramic Biomedia, sounds like it works good. Have you used them before?
CalmSeasQuest
02-07-2012, 07:48 AM
Thanks for the update. I have wondering about the Marine Pure Ceramic Biomedia, sounds like it works good. Have you used them before?
All of my prior builds have been "traditional" in that they utilized as much live rock as possible and DSBs when practical, thus no need for additional biomedia. This build is different and will need additional media to support biological filtration.
What sold me on Marine Pure was the BRS video demonstrating the porosity by showing water running straight through it...
http://youtu.be/ByTzKjqYA2U
The numbers are impressive - A cubic foot of Marinepure 1.5 inch spheres has 98,000 square feet of surface area which is around 600 times the surface area of bioballs. For reference, the interconnected porosity of a single teasoon of activated carbon has the surface area of an entire football field (57,600 square feet).
This tank will quickly become home to a pair of TalCassos, so I want to make sure I have sufficient Nitrification early on. I've had the Marine Pure "seeding" in the sump of an existing tank for a couple weeks. I'm also going to try Dr.Tim’s Nitrifying Bacteria in an effort to support bacterial buildup.
Pure
CalmSeasQuest
02-07-2012, 08:22 AM
:shake-head: <me looking around sadly not seeing what the tank is going to look like or finding any real insight to the plans for the tank still.... and yet I plan to return lol
I am interested to find out how the marinepure works for you tho for sure! I think I need to get a reactor and run something more then I have been doing!
LOL - Sorry for the shroud of secrecy, This tank is such a a radical departure from what a traditional reef tank is considerd to be - I wanted to get more work done (and make sure I thought it was viable) before introducing it.
Thanks for your patience - It won't be long now :)
I'm also interested to see the Pure Marine results. I don't have solid surface area numbers for live rock (and I'm sure it varies greatly), but I think these would be the equivelent of a lot of live rock.
CalmSeasQuest
02-13-2012, 10:01 PM
It's just freshwater for a leak and overflow check, but it's progress :) Here's the update...
I've been working on the overflow and filtration. The challenge is I have only 8"X 3"X 8" in which to install a return pump and plumbing, heater, temp, ORP, Salinity and pH probes, Osmocontroller sensor and ATO, 2-part dosing, mechanical, chemical and biological filtration a few mangroves..AND...I decided this tank needs a skimmer :big_grin:
I looked at all the commercially available skimmers and none would fit in the available space, so my remaining option was to build one. Due to my very limited acrylic skills, it's not the prettiest, but it does fit in the allotted space (2"x2"X12") and for an airstone-driven skimmer, seems to function well. The reaction chamber is modeled after a Tunze 9006 fitted with a foam extraction unit so I can store the skimmate remotely and lessen the skimmer footprint.
Lastly, I took down my office desktop nano today to make way for the 2012 build. I hope to install the new tank on Wednesday and be able to post the first photos shortly thereafter.
Sir Patrick
02-13-2012, 10:07 PM
Have any pics of this skimmer??
MizTanks
02-13-2012, 10:36 PM
Your narration is such that I'm totally stoked to see this tank!! The suspense is killing me!!!
phishcrazee
02-14-2012, 09:37 AM
Need some pics of something :)
CalmSeasQuest
02-14-2012, 07:43 PM
Have any pics of this skimmer??
Almost done Chris - I ran out of Novus and still have some polishing to do. Should have photos by the end of the week.
Your narration is such that I'm totally stoked to see this tank!! The suspense is killing me!!! Thanks Miz, now I just have to worry about living up to expectations.
Need some pics of something :)
Thanks for your patience - Pics are coming soon.
I've refrained from posting photos intentionally. For the past 20 years, every tank I've built has basically been an adaptation of the same theme. Although we've long since lost the plenums, underground filters and skilters, most builds are simply filling a tank with live rock and gluing in Frags. I've had an idea about doing something different and this build presented a perfect opportunity to do so.
Hopefully when you see this tank, you'll understand why I waited to show it in it's entirety, rather than ala-carte build photos. I believe this tank will set forth some new ideas and perspectives about what a "reef tank" might be including new ideas on aquascaping and nanofiltration.
Sir Patrick
02-14-2012, 09:57 PM
Now you really got my attention.....
rosebud161616
02-15-2012, 11:55 AM
I've refrained from posting photos intentionally. For the past 20 years, every tank I've built has basically been an adaptation of the same theme. Although we've long since lost the plenums, underground filters and skilters, most builds are simply filling a tank with live rock and gluing in Frags. I've had an idea about doing something different and this build presented a perfect opportunity to do so.
Hopefully when you see this tank, you'll understand why I waited to show it in it's entirety, rather than ala-carte build photos. I believe this tank will set forth some new ideas and perspectives about what a "reef tank" might be including new ideas on aquascaping and nanofiltration.
That's a lot of talk and I can't wait to see the walk! No doubt in my mind it will happen and I'm excited to see it! :)
phishcrazee
02-15-2012, 12:17 PM
But isn't it in the rules that you have to update with pictures? Wouldn't have to be of the tank necessarily.......
CalmSeasQuest
02-15-2012, 12:42 PM
But isn't it in the rules that you have to update with pictures? Wouldn't have to be of the tank necessarily.......
I'm not sure I understand your concern Fawn, but rest assured I'll comply with the requirements. There are photos and videos of the tank etc...posted as recent as eight days ago with myriad forthcoming.
CalmSeasQuest
02-16-2012, 08:28 AM
That's a lot of talk and I can't wait to see the walk! No doubt in my mind it will happen and I'm excited to see it! :)
Thanks Erika!
I hope I haven't "over-hyped" build. This idea isn't revolutionary, it probably isn't even evolutionary - but it is different. At least personally, I've never seen this done.
Anyone expecting a traditional reef build will be disappointed. This one will definitively be considered "Abbynormal" :)
Got the tank moved to the office yesterday, but IT issues kept me getting the substrate washed and tank filled. I did manage to get the T5/LED fixture taken down, cleaned and relamped. Also moved the Apex to an area beside my monitor where it can be affixed to the hutch on my desk.
I hoping to have time tomorrow to get the substrate washed and tank filled (I have to haul RO/DI from my home.) I'm also excited about this little skimmer (it's amazing how much time can be spent thinking about skimmers.) All I'm waiting on is the delivery of some rigid tubing to install the air stone and it should be ready to fractionate.
AJ :)
02-16-2012, 09:19 AM
Thanks Erika!
I hope I haven't "over-hyped" build. This idea isn't revolutionary, it probably isn't even evolutionary - but it is different. At least personally, I've never seen this done.
Anyone expecting a traditional reef build will be disappointed. This one will definitively be considered "Abbynormal" :)
Got the tank moved to the office yesterday, but IT issues kept me getting the substrate washed and tank filled. I did manage to get the T5/LED fixture taken down, cleaned and relamped. Also moved the Apex to an area beside my monitor where it can be affixed to the hutch on my desk.
I hoping to have time tomorrow to get the substrate washed and tank filled (I have to haul RO/DI from my home.) I'm also excited about this little skimmer (it's amazing how much time can be spent thinking about skimmers.) All I'm waiting on is the delivery of some rigid tubing to install the air stone and it should be ready to fractionate.
Abbynormal? Is that a NCIS reference?
CalmSeasQuest
02-16-2012, 09:36 AM
Abbynormal? Is that a NCIS reference?
No, here was my reference (Terry Garr looks great!)...
Abby Normal Scene from Young Frankenstein Movie (1974) | MOVIECLIPS (http://cli.ps/jnZWa)
I'd forgotten what a great movie that was.
AJ :)
02-16-2012, 09:55 AM
Hmm, I'll have to see that one. I'll assume you don't follow NCIS. :)
CalmSeasQuest
02-16-2012, 03:18 PM
Have any pics of this skimmer??
The skimmer design is very simple. I used a 12" length of 2" acrylic pipe as it was the largest that would fit in the area available and it's easy to clean using a long handled glass brush. It affixes to the side of the sump area using 3 plastic-encased magnets that are attached to the body of the skimmer using Cyanocrylate (I couldn't get a strong enough seal with silicone.)
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Skimmer1.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Skimmer2.jpg
The skimmate collection area is angled to direct the skimmate to a 1/2" drain (Tunze would call it a foam extraction unit.)
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Skimmer3.jpg
It's driven by a whisper 10 pump with a single Limewood air stone...
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Skimmer4.jpg
I tested multiple airstones, but the turbulence seemed to offset the additional air. I'm also working on a bubble plate (silly I know, but it's easy to get "sucked" into playing with skimmer designs.)
I still have to add the rigid airline that will attach to the air stone and design a small skimmate container that can sit beside the tank on my desk. Based on just a little testing, it seems to work well. It will be placed so the bottom-opening is beside the AC20 intake which I hope will aid it water flow through the skimmer.
Sir Patrick
02-16-2012, 04:06 PM
Looks great man!
thepanfish
02-16-2012, 04:14 PM
Wow, just like the Mame Nano Skimmer!
MizTanks
02-16-2012, 05:19 PM
Dang I should have had you build me skimmer! LOL looks great CSQ :)
AJ :)
02-16-2012, 05:43 PM
Very clean looking! Look very much like the tunze extractor
CalmSeasQuest
02-16-2012, 05:50 PM
Wow, just like the Mame Nano Skimmer!
I looked up the Mame Nano Skimmer (http://reefbuilders.com/2010/08/02/mame-skimmer-ultimate-unboxing-exciting-concept-aquarium-product/) and I like mine better (especially considering the $130 price for the Mame.) This one is larger and I'm betting more efficient as there is no obstruction form the airline being in the reaction chamber. It's also easier to clean :)
Very expensive Japanese engineering bested by $10 worth of acrylic :)
WillBattle
02-16-2012, 06:21 PM
Very expensive Japanese engineering bested by $10 worth of acrylic :)
Lol cracking me up! The skimmer looks sweet!
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thepanfish
02-16-2012, 06:25 PM
I looked up the Mame Nano Skimmer (http://reefbuilders.com/2010/08/02/mame-skimmer-ultimate-unboxing-exciting-concept-aquarium-product/) and I like mine better (especially considering the $130 price for the Mame.) This one is larger and I'm betting more efficient as there is no obstruction form the airline being in the reaction chamber. It's also easier to clean :)
Very expensive Japanese engineering bested by $10 worth of acrylic :)
The Mame is made out of glass though, that probably ups the cost.
I love the addition of the magnets, that sure is a feature I wish they'd put on nano "things" (power heads, heaters, skimmers).
Will you build me one, please :jester:
CalmSeasQuest
02-17-2012, 08:12 AM
Thanks all - I'm excited to see how it functions long term, and for reasons I can't explain - I still want to add a bubble plate :stupidme:
Panfish - Trust me, my acrylic skills are no where near good enough to sell anything. I'll probably end up making a few of these, incorporating changes based on how it performs. In addition to the probably un-needed bubble plate, I'd like to play around with adding a taper/cone shape. I also think the overall height might be able to be increased - Time will tell.
I've got 2 - 7 gallon buckets of freshly made saltwater ready for transport to my office. :big_grin:
CalmSeasQuest
02-18-2012, 11:12 AM
Most of the filtration components are now in place...
http://youtu.be/wNtq9SKmlN4
The filtration process includes an 8" bulkhead and weir feeding raw water to the skimmer, Mangroves (yet to be installed) and an AC20 filter fitted with an InTank insert. The AC20 will hold Chemipure Elite and Purigen as needed. The skimmer is raised to allow space for the Mangroves roots directly below the skimmer opening. Although difficult to see in the photos or video, the Marine Pure bio-balls are enclosed in a vertical acrylic tower which has a slot opening beside the return pump. Filtered water from the AC20 enters the top of the bio-tower and is drawn down through the bio-balls by the return pump just before being warmed and being returned to the tank.
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Filtration1.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Filtration2.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Filtration3.jpg
The intake for the AC20 is places immediately beside the skimmer intake in the hopes of increasing flow though both the skimmer and surrounding Mangrove roots. The Apex thermometer is also located in this area, far from the heater to avoid any erroneous measurements and heater cycling. A small bottle serves as a temporary skimmate locker until I come up with a more aesthetically pleasing design.
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Filtration4.jpg
I was pleasantly surprised at how well the air-stone works - It creates a full column of micro-fine bubble rivaling that of my other pump-driven skimmers, albeit on a much smaller scale.
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Filtration5.jpg
This photo was taken just minutes after adding saltwater to the tank and already the water column was filling with foam.
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Filtration6.jpg
The Elos Osmocontroller still needs to be installed, and I'm waiting until I have some bio load and waste in the tank before adding the mangroves.
The substrate has been added. The cycle was started using Ammonia, Dr. Tims nitrifying bacteria and the Marine Pure which has been seeding in my home DT sump for the past few weeks.
thepanfish
02-18-2012, 11:22 AM
:stars:
WOW!
phishcrazee
02-18-2012, 11:35 AM
Wow, impressive use of space! Has the skimmate gone into the tube/bottle yet?
CalmSeasQuest
02-18-2012, 12:09 PM
:stars:
WOW!
Thanks Panfish :)
Wow, impressive use of space! Has the skimmate gone into the tube/bottle yet?
Thanks Fawn - Truthfully, I have no idea how it's running as I left my office shortly after that last photo was snapped. I initially thought there would be very little skimmate as the saltwater was fresh, but the substrate provided some work for the skimmer. I set it very dry - I won't know more until Monday when I return to my office.
creefer
02-18-2012, 12:38 PM
Very cool, Tom and very well executed.
CalmSeasQuest
02-18-2012, 02:54 PM
Very cool, Tom and very well executed.
Thanks Chris.
I still have to make space for the Osmocontroller sensor and tubing and 2 part dosing lines. Then I can begin thinking about the livestock installations. I'm curious to see how the cycle goes using Ammonia, bacteria and the seeded bio media.
I'm also looking forward to getting the Mangroves added - I'm hoping they will look good encircling the skimmer.
MizTanks
02-18-2012, 06:00 PM
Me thinks Tom is actually an alien reefer from a much farther away planet:jawdrop2:
CalmSeasQuest
02-19-2012, 06:50 AM
Me thinks Tom is actually and alien reefer from a much farther away planet:jawdrop2:
LOL - Thanks Jamie (I think) ;)
The tank seems to be running OK - At least as far as I can tell by monitoring the Apex remotely. I'm noticing the salinity slowly creep up due to evaporation as I haven't gotten an ATO installed yet and I'm running the tank at 82 degrees to promote bacterial growth.
I'm tempted to swing by the office just to see how the skimmers running.
MizTanks
02-19-2012, 08:35 AM
Tom-I am amazed at your ingenuity! Can not complement you enough :)
rosebud161616
02-19-2012, 08:37 AM
How do you adjust the skimmer? Do you just move it up and down? Also, being that there is just one bay with everything in it, are you afraid at all that the evaporation might change the way the skimmer performs?
CalmSeasQuest
02-19-2012, 08:43 AM
Tom-I am amazed at your ingenuity! Can not complement you enough :)
Thanks Jamie - You are too kind.
How do you adjust the skimmer? Do you just move it up and down? Also, being that there is just one bay with everything in it, are you afraid at all that the evaporation might change the way the skimmer performs?
The skimmer is affixed to the side of overflow area with 3 magnets - To adjust, simply slide it up/down. :)
The Elos Osmocontroller ATO sensor will sit in the overflow area and keep the level ~1/8". As there are no overflow/siphon concerns with this design - I can run the overflow very close to tank depth so even in the event of a return pump failure - it won't have any impact on the skimmer.
thepanfish
02-19-2012, 08:54 AM
Why not incorporate the mangroves into your rockscaape?
CalmSeasQuest
02-19-2012, 09:04 AM
Why not incorporate the mangroves into your rockscaape?
Initially I planned on having them in the display area, but when you see the rest of the tank you'll understand why I decided to move them to the overflow. With this design, they are feeding off of the raw, overflowing surface water. It should provide the most nutrient rich environment.
I'm also hoping it will be aesthetically pleasing, having them encircling the skimmer.
thepanfish
02-19-2012, 09:59 AM
I think I have an idea of what you want to do with the aquascape, but I'll wait and see...
CalmSeasQuest
02-19-2012, 10:07 AM
I think I have an idea of what you want to do with the aquascape, but I'll wait and see...
I would be very intrigued to hear. Send me a PM and I'll credit you as the first to guess if you're correct.
thepanfish
02-19-2012, 02:45 PM
I would be very intrigued to hear. Send me a PM and I'll credit you as the first to guess if you're correct.
If I get it right, will you build me a skimmer? :silly:
LOL
CalmSeasQuest
02-19-2012, 03:41 PM
If I get it right, will you build me a skimmer? :silly:
LOL
LOL - Having read your PM....Absolutely :big_grin:
thepanfish
02-19-2012, 03:51 PM
LOL - Having read your PM....Absolutely :big_grin:
So....? Was I somewhat close?
CalmSeasQuest
02-19-2012, 04:40 PM
So....? Was I somewhat close?
It all depends on your definition of "somewhat" ;) You're correct that it will be minimalist, but the only planned plants are the Mangroves.
thepanfish
02-19-2012, 06:29 PM
It all depends on your definition of "somewhat" ;) You're correct that it will be minimalist, but the only planned plants are the Mangroves.
Where did I mention "plants"?
I mentioned minimalist "planted-tanks" but I never said you were going to have plants
CalmSeasQuest
02-19-2012, 08:50 PM
Sorry Panfish - I must have misinterpreted your PM.
thepanfish
02-19-2012, 09:01 PM
Sorry Panfish - I must have misinterpreted your PM.
Don't worry, I have a habit of running my sentences together.
Just read it a second time and watch the videos, then you'll see.
Sir Patrick
02-19-2012, 10:44 PM
I have this vision of an upside down reef......with lights under the bottom glass......
But I am probly way off!
CalmSeasQuest
02-20-2012, 07:07 AM
Don't worry, I have a habit of running my sentences together.
Just read it a second time and watch the videos, then you'll see.
I really liked the tanks you referenced - To the extent they are minimal in design - you're on the right track. Other than that, even the "horseshoes and hand-grenades" rule doesn't get you close enough to score a new skimmer ;) A few more hints - No driftwood, large rocks or Discus. This is truly more "Abbynormal"
I have this vision of an upside down reef......with lights under the bottom glass......
But I am probly way off!
Strangely enough Chris, I did consider the use of inverted lighting, in fact, I haven't completely given up on the idea. Although not literally correct, I think most will consider this concept even stranger...err...more unique than an upside-down reef :)
Assuming things are relatively calm at the office today, I hope to get most of the mechanicals completed. Remaining are the installation of the ATO, calibration of probes, and finding/creating space for the 2-part lines. I'm hoping the skimmate collection system will function well enough to serve for the short term while I start planning livestock installations.
I hope to be able to introduce the display area of the tank by weeks end. :)
CalmSeasQuest
02-20-2012, 08:57 AM
The display area will be all acrylic with BTA's and a sick pair of clowns, no rocks, this way when the BTA's split he can just cut the acylic and sell em off... j/k I have 0 idea still!
LOL Chris - That's cheating. I already disclosed the Clowns, plan for an BTA (although the Nem might have to wait post-contest due to the spending limit) and sans-rocks.
There is acrylic involved, but hopefully it won't be "prominent." I have dropped a couple hints, but arguably not nearly enough for an accurate deduction. :shrug:
CalmSeasQuest
02-20-2012, 09:29 AM
Im going to pm u what I am actually thinking might be your idea.... because it just popped in my head and if its not what your plans/ idea is... I just might have to do something with this 70g I have doing pretty much nothing right now lol
Very close Chris - you got one aspect of it! Nothing sadder than an empty tank - get on it ;)
CalmSeasQuest
02-20-2012, 09:28 PM
I'm pleased to report the little skimmer is "rocking." Although there is little to skim a this point, it's functioning well with about half an ounce of light-colored skimmate in the bottle.
I didn't have as much time as hoped today to work on the tank. The Elos Osmocontroller that I had planned to install today shipped without a return line (unlike it's Tunze counterpart.) After wasting time trying to figure out a way to get it installed with what I had on-hand, I shoved it back in its box and re-installed the Tunze Osmolator which has ran perfectly for the past year.
It appears the cycle is well underway - The ammonia dosed on Friday that raised the tank to 3ppm is gone, measuring zero with no nitrites detected today. I once again raised the ammonia level to 3ppm today and I'll check it again on Wednesday. It appears the seeded Marine Pure coupled with Dr. Tims bacteria are working well. At this rate, the tank might be ready for livestock in about a week.
CalmSeasQuest
02-22-2012, 11:19 AM
I may have been a bit overoptimistic on the cycle progress. Today I measured .25 Ammonia / 0 Nitrates remaining from the 3ppm dosed on Monday, so we still have a ways to go. I added more ammonia to bring it back to 3ppm and I'll retest on Friday.
Despite there being very little bio-load in the tank, the little skimmer continues to impress...
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/IMG_20120222_113939.jpg http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/IMG_20120222_121648.jpg
Badfish
02-22-2012, 01:48 PM
Great build, the little skimmer is pretty cool.
CalmSeasQuest
02-27-2012, 05:57 PM
Great build, the little skimmer is pretty cool.
Thanks Badfish :)
CalmSeasQuest
02-27-2012, 06:16 PM
The cycle continues - Dosed ammonia back to 3 PPM, strangely although the Ammonia is largely gone in 48 hours, I'm not able to measure any Nitrites. I'm hoping that is due to the pre-cycled Marine Pure. With any luck, I'll be able to retrieve the Picassos from Tal shortly.
Here are a couple quick shots of the display area, although they may generate more questions than answers...
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/2012-02-27184541.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/2012-02-27184245-1.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/2012-02-27184207.jpg
I've selected many of the corals that will be placed in this tank and I hope to begin installations by the end of the week.
thepanfish
02-27-2012, 07:58 PM
The sand is in (assuming) little acrylic boxes? Are you trying to make Atlantis?
MizTanks
02-27-2012, 08:40 PM
CSQ you have totally outdone yourself! You have also put a new spin on the NANO CONTEST!!! This build is just to freaking awesome!!!:highfive3::stars:
cbau45
02-27-2012, 08:52 PM
Wow, very cool idea. I'm excited to see how this progresses. Very nice nano build!
CalmSeasQuest
02-27-2012, 08:53 PM
The sand is in (assuming) little acrylic boxes? Are you trying to make Atlantis?
Nope - No lost city stuff here.
CSQ you have totally outdone yourself! You have also put a new spin on the NANO CONTEST!!! This build is just to freaking awesome!!!:highfive3::stars:
LOL - Thanks Jamie, but you haven't seen the good stuff yet ;)
This is but a clean slate...an empty canvas for whats to come. :)
MizTanks
02-28-2012, 01:27 AM
Yeah well you now have a bigger audience. Showed my sis what yer doing an she book marked ya. You've gained a non-reefer fan ;)
thepanfish
02-28-2012, 06:26 AM
That was a joke about Atlantis BTW
CalmSeasQuest
02-29-2012, 01:51 PM
Ammonia 0
Nitrites .50
Nitrates 10 (5~10 - My eyes aren't sharp enough to tell the difference with API test kits.)
Getting closer - Again added ammonia to bring the tank back up to 3ppm. Hopefully I'll be able to knock out a water change and begin installations early next week. :)
WillBattle
02-29-2012, 04:36 PM
This has to be the coolest builds that I'm currently following! Keep up the great work man! Really looking forward to what's to come..
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CalmSeasQuest
03-02-2012, 01:27 PM
This has to be the coolest builds that I'm currently following! Keep up the great work man! Really looking forward to what's to come..
Thanks Will - Me too!
Today's number are encouraging....
Ammonia 0
Nitrites 0
Nitrates 0~5 (I don't know how anyone can tell the difference using an API test)
I'm especially pleased that the Nitrates number has dropped. I know it's far too early to draw any conclusions, but until evidence points otherwise, I'm going to hope the Marine Pure denitrification experiment is working :) I re-dosed ammonia back to 3ppm - if Mondays results show the same were "in business."
I'm also pleased that at least thus far, there have been no signs of typical cycle-related algae or Cyano outbreaks. I'm wondering if it's just a bit early, or if jumping right to ammonia has had an impact. Time will tell.
I remembered to bring my DSLR to the office and at the moment, I've got reef "parts" completely covering my desk. I'll get some photography done this evening and with any luck - will be able to start installations on Monday.
MizTanks
03-02-2012, 01:35 PM
:drool3::super_cool:
CalmSeasQuest
03-02-2012, 04:15 PM
The little skimmer that could...
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/2012-03-021701.jpg
I'm anxious to see what it does when it actually has waste (other than the ammonia being dosed) to deal with.
jimsflies
03-02-2012, 05:42 PM
Maybe I missed it...but what's up with the sand castle footings? :knight:
CalmSeasQuest
03-02-2012, 08:37 PM
Maybe I missed it...but what's up with the sand castle footings? :knight:
Nope - You haven't missed anything Jim :big_grin:
Tom@HaslettMI
03-06-2012, 11:53 PM
While I'm intrigued by this build, I think I may be equally annoyed by it... over 100 posts and still no real answers to what's going on. I'm officially/unofficially dubbing this build "The X-files nano". :alienjar:
Tom
CalmSeasQuest
03-07-2012, 06:58 AM
While I'm intrigued by this build, I think I may be equally annoyed by it... over 100 posts and still no real answers to what's going on. I'm officially/unofficially dubbing this build "The X-files nano". :alienjar:
Tom
LOL - Thanks and "sorry" Tom
"No battle plan survives first contact with the enemy."
Monday was a mixed-news day. The good was that I believe we've got the cycle completed. Once again the 3ppm of ammonia added to the tank on Friday was gone on with no signs of any nuisance algae or bacterial blooms...
Ammonia 0
Nitrites 0
Nitrates 0
I'll dose another 3 ppm ammonia today to keep things going and reach out to Tal to let him know I can pick up the clowns next week. The flip side of the coin was that part of my concept didn't provide quite the anticipated results...
As I've been working through the idea and build for this tank, I had what started as two separate concepts that, somewhere in the process I had believed could be incorporated together. While in a larger tank I'm convinced it would work; in a tank this small including both designs resulted in a bit too "muchiness", so...
I spent the better part of yesterday removing and remaking each installation for this tank, removing the second design component. I am confident this will achieve the intended results.
I hope to have it completed in the next few days and be able to start photography. Hopefully by early next week you'll be able to see what I've been up to. Best of all, I've got a really great idea and virtually all the needed parts for next year's build :)
CalmSeasQuest
03-11-2012, 12:05 PM
Interestingly, Gnome glass introduced a line of blown-glass skimmers at reefstock that are somewhat similar to the one created for this build. I still prefer my design, especially considering the $90 price tag for their largest model which is still smaller than this design. I believe the larger diameter drain line will be much more efficient and I prefer the use of magnets instead of a zip-tie.
Gnome Glass Skimmers and strainers launches at ReefStock (http://reefbuilders.com/2012/03/10/gnome-glass-skimmers-strainers-launched-reefstock/#more-55907)
MizTanks
03-11-2012, 03:59 PM
Would look a heck of a lot better in my tank the what I'm using now...better yet would fit great in my fuge :)
WillBattle
03-14-2012, 01:44 PM
Any updates coming soon? :)
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CalmSeasQuest
03-14-2012, 06:00 PM
Any updates coming soon? :)
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Updates are coming, but there will be a bit of a delay. I suffered a concussion as a result of a silly accident over the weekend (kitchen cabinet attacked me.) As a result, I'm running at about 50% power. I'm not sure I'll have much to show this week and I'm in DC for meetings on the hill early next, so it will be a bit. I am hoping to visit Tal to pick up the clowns soon, so perhaps they will be the next photo-op.
WillBattle
03-15-2012, 11:32 AM
Gotta watch out for those cabinets... Sneaky as ninjas! Lol but in all seriousness I hope you feel better and I look forward to what this build has in store
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CalmSeasQuest
03-26-2012, 08:22 PM
Sorry for the delays all...
I spent much of last week in DC for meetings on the hill, after which I had the urge to bath in hand sanitizer. Thankfully I'm mostly recovered from the unprovoked attack of kitchen cabinetry.
After a 25% water change - Here's a quick cell pic of the first intentional life in the tank - I temporarily added in a tiny Acan frag to make sure it would support life.
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/2012-03-26154256.jpg
As for whats coming next, here's the backstory...
I've kept aquariums for more than 30 years, like many originally freshwater, then reef. Having survived the brief plenum, reverse plenum and skilter era, all builds have been variations of the same basic theme - "Stuff the tank with the most live rock possible". Although it makes great biological sense and is representative of a natural reef and although I consider myself a traditionalist, I wanted to do something different with this tank. So I decided to do basically the opposite. Create a tank that incorporates no live rock and bears little resemblance to a natural reef while still providing the necessary biological filtration.
I've always marveled at Mother Nature's creations - especially those residing in the oceans. A brilliant display of beauty with but a hint of a sense of humor. I thought it might be interesting to create individual pieces... sculptures if you will designed to showcase and accent each coral with a minimal of distraction. Each coral treated much the way Tiffany would feature a precious gemstone or jewelry creation.
Each piece has been created with specific corals in mind. I'll be introducing the first later this week with new additions thereafter. The first while among the simplest in appearance, took more hours to create than any other piece and will feature 3 Acan Lords.
Thanks for everyone's patience :)
MizTanks
03-26-2012, 09:47 PM
Very happy your on the mend.....especially for the sake of the tank ;)
CalmSeasQuest
03-28-2012, 11:11 PM
For the first installation, I took a section of cast acrylic pipe, cut it lengthwise then heated it and formed an angle toward the front of the tank. I then ground and polished a flat surface and painted the reverse side black using Krylon Fusion.
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Acan7.jpg
I then used a diamond blade on a Dremel to shape 4 Acan Lord Frags to allow low-profile mounting. Although the photos don't do a good job of showing the Acans, I selected a purple, red with a bright tangerine star-burst center, pink and green/purple frags to provide contrast. I'll grab better macro and actinic shots once they recover from the carving, mounting and travel.
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Acan4.jpg
The combination of the reverse painting and beveled, polished edges creates a really "neat" visual effect that is far more pronounced than the photos show.
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Acan2.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Acan1-1.jpg
Over time they should merge together, encompassing the entire acrylic substrate.
Sir Patrick
03-29-2012, 05:43 PM
Pretty cool idea!!
MizTanks
03-29-2012, 06:51 PM
Very cool idea!
dlhirst
03-29-2012, 07:07 PM
Love it. I was gonna suggest little "price tags" to complete the display. But, Tiffany would never have price tags showing...
CalmSeasQuest
03-30-2012, 07:39 AM
Pretty cool idea!!
Very cool idea!
Thanks! This one has been fun so far.
Love it. I was gonna suggest little "price tags" to complete the display. But, Tiffany would never have price tags showing...
Thanks! - One of the challenges with this build was not going "over the top" and having it look like a FW tank, i.e. bubble producing treasure chest et al. (not that there's anything wrong with that.) :big_grin:
I'm hoping it will evolve into a very unique look as the Acans grow together and "assimilate" the design. Thus far, I've got 10 other pieces designed and in various stages of completion, each entirely different.
CalmSeasQuest
03-30-2012, 02:12 PM
As I was thinking through the design possibilities for this tank, one tenet was to NOT think in terms of coral (aside from the obvious environmental needs.) Some of the designs were based on Topiary methods used in Horticulture and the concept of creating a submarine formal English garden. To that end, here's the the second installation...
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/2012-03-30-081245.png
3/32" diameter acrylic rod was heated and wrapped around a wooden dowel to create the spiral. A small section of larger diameter acrylic tubing was affixed to the base to form an attachment point for the coral - in this case, a pink, photosynthetic Gorgonian...
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/IMG_20120330_135633.png
The Gorg looks pretty shabby at the moment this photo was taken as it had been placed in the tank minutes before and after just having been Fragged, affixed and transported to my office. It will look much better in a couple of days.
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/IMG_20120330_135329.png
I also placed a couple small Mangroves in the skimmer section of the sump. Also visible is the Diatom bloom I've been expecting.
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/IMG_20120330_143002.png
MizTanks
03-30-2012, 02:16 PM
That is just to freaking cool!!! Where the heck are you coming up with these ideas?
AJ :)
03-31-2012, 12:17 PM
That is just to freaking cool!!! Where the heck are you coming up with these ideas?
Your build is bizarre. In a good way. Kinda makes me think of weird things, like if there were fish tanks in Tron would they look like this? Keep up the great work.
CalmSeasQuest
03-31-2012, 12:41 PM
That is just to freaking cool!!! Where the heck are you coming up with these ideas?Thanks Jamie - Just a little "outside-of-the-box" thinking ;)
Your build is bizarre. In a good way. Kinda makes me think of weird things, like if there were fish tanks in Tron would they look like this? Keep up the great work.
LOL - Thanks AJ,
That's kind of the point of this build - As long as environmental demands are accounted for, a reef doesn't have to fit into "conventional" molds. While I probably would not have this as my primary (only) tank, it's certainly been a fun ancillary tank project, and...If you're intrigued with what you've seen so far, there are more pieces coming, all of which are definitely atypical :)
creefer
04-01-2012, 04:50 AM
Wow, Tom! This is a very cool build and a ver unique idea. I look forward to following this.
CalmSeasQuest
04-01-2012, 09:49 AM
Wow, Tom! This is a very cool build and a ver unique idea. I look forward to following this.
Thanks Chris - I'm curious to see how it turns out as well :)
Badfish
04-02-2012, 10:28 AM
Wow this thing is slick, one quick question; How did you steal this aquarium from the matrix?
Tropical Buff
04-02-2012, 11:27 AM
all I want to know is where do i go to get tickets to see this rare exhibit??
CalmSeasQuest
04-02-2012, 02:48 PM
Wow this thing is slick, one quick question; How did you steal this aquarium from the matrix? LOL - Thanks I think :)
all I want to know is where do i go to get tickets to see this rare exhibit??
I wouldn't recommend anyone drive around the block to see it in it's current state but - give me a few more weeks and hopefully it will be worth seeing :)
I took a moment to feed the few Acans in the tank and was pleasantly surprised to see how quickly they are growing. These frags had 2 or 3 heads when purchased from Mr. Coral on Feb 7 - Today I see as many as 8 new heads on some of the frags.
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Acans22.png
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Acans24.png
Even the Gorgonian is starting to "puff up" a bit...
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Gorg4.png
CalmSeasQuest
04-05-2012, 09:05 AM
I just completed the next piece, using a process I'll call Micro-Plane Fragging. It includes multiple paper-thin sections of coral harvested with a scalpel and placed much in the way you would apply gold leaf (it will make more sense when you see it.)
I'm cautiously optimistic that it will work as imagined, but I'm going to wait a couple days to make sure it's viable before adding to the tank and photographing.
MizTanks
04-05-2012, 09:41 AM
Those Acans look awesome!!
CalmSeasQuest
04-11-2012, 01:59 PM
Those Acans look awesome!!
Thanks Jamie - They are filling in pretty quickly :)
This next piece is definitely the "ugly duckling" of the bunch. Had I not promised photos soon, I would have let this one grow out a few weeks to become a bit more presentable.
I've had a Tryee Toadstool in my tank for a couple of years...
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/2012-04-06115033.jpg
As of late it's begun dropping a couple baby's each month so I thought I might as well find a use for them. I let a Toadstool Frag grow on top of some rubble rock, then using a Dremel, cut-off all but a sliver of the rubble rock leaving a slightly concave attachment point. This was then attached to the top of an acrylic cabochon.
For the second coral on this peice, I affixed a small frag of GSP to a magnet frag and placed it on on a side wall of my tank. Over the next month or so, it covered the frag disc and began to cover the glass in a paper-thin purple film (no polyps were yet visible.) Using a scalpel, I lifted this film from the glass walls and affixed it to the cabochon using a tiny amount of Cyanocrylate around the edges.
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/2012-04-05093246.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/2012-04-05101750.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Cabachon1.png
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/2012-04-11140009.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/2012-04-11140204.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/2012-04-11140318.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/2012-04-11140348.jpg
Remember, I told you this tank was going to be "abbynormal" :)
Over time, the GSP should completely cover the cabochon right up to the stalk of the Toadstool. As the cabachon is suspended a couple inches above the sand bed, it should be easy to prevent the GSP from spreading beyond this piece.
I'll have photos of the new Picassos soon as I'm picking them up from Tal later this afternoon.
thefishgirl
04-11-2012, 04:15 PM
Clever....very clever indeed!
creefer
04-11-2012, 04:46 PM
Nice execution on this, Tom. Very slick.
CalmSeasQuest
04-11-2012, 05:18 PM
Clever....very clever indeed!
Nice execution on this, Tom. Very slick.
Thanks Becky and Chris :)
Just got back from Tal's - The man knows his Clownfish :)
It's amazing what a difference the smiling faces of a couple of Picassos can make...
Desktop Nano Picassos - YouTube
MizTanks
04-11-2012, 07:43 PM
Beautiful choice for your tank CSQ!
CalmSeasQuest
04-12-2012, 12:09 PM
Beautiful choice for your tank CSQ!
Thanks Jamie - I've got to admit, these little guys make me smile every time I gaze into the tank :)
I'm working on the next piece now, I might have it ready to install and photograph as early as tomorrow. I also note that we only have until April 30th to add all the livestock. Unless I can free up more time, that's going to be a tight deadline. I may have to move all the corals into the tank on a Frag rack while I complete the rest of the individual pieces.
CalmSeasQuest
04-13-2012, 11:30 AM
Next up is a splash of color...
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/IMG_20120413_120944.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/2012-04-13121014.jpg
I selected 6 of the Ricordea Florida acquired from CorlaMorphologic and added them to the "Ric River". The photos don't do them justice as they are still angry from the move. I'll wait a few days to see how they look when fully expanded and perhaps add a couple more if space allows.
MizTanks
04-13-2012, 02:48 PM
Oh yeah!! Now that's sweet!!
CalmSeasQuest
04-15-2012, 08:14 AM
Oh yeah!! Now that's sweet!!
Thanks Jamie - They should look nice once they fully open up.
I'm really liking the flexibility provided by the elevated footings including the ability to use black, polished glass gravel in small areas/amounts. It provides contrast and enhanced colors, without the challenges of having an entire black sand bed to keep clean.
Thus far I've been snapping photos with my Cell just to document the build process. Now that I've got livestock to shoot, I'll start using a DSLR and pay more attention to white balance to get a "truer" image of what the tank and it's inhabitants look like.
MizTanks
04-15-2012, 08:49 AM
Can't wait! I've never enjoyed watching a build as much as I am this one. So much thought and energy has gone into it. What's best is it is totally outside the box! Another first is I'm actually getting to know you through this build. Very cool!
CalmSeasQuest
04-15-2012, 09:03 AM
Another first is I'm actually getting to know you through this build. Very cool! Hmm....
Self admitted "Abbinormal" build - Not sure if that's a good thing or not ;)
MizTanks
04-15-2012, 10:15 AM
Hmm....
Self admitted "Abbinormal" build - Not sure if that's a good thing or not ;)
I think it's wonderful! Consider yourself paving the way for those who need to learn how to think outside the box.
CalmSeasQuest
04-16-2012, 06:16 PM
I installed 3 more pieces today, a total of 9 new corals. I'm going to wait a couple days for everything to "get happy" before snapping their photos.
The Rics have opened nicely but as the clowns spend much of their day playing under the bridge so it was a bit tough to get clean shots. I had to lure them away with food but as Tal has spoiled them with Rod's - they were unimpressed with my Spectrum pellets...
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/IMG_20120416_184209.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/IMG_20120416_184030.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/IMG_20120416_183957.jpg
jstan
04-18-2012, 12:30 PM
Over time, the GSP should completely cover the cabochon right up to the stalk of the Toadstool. As the cabachon is suspended a couple inches above the sand bed, it should be easy to prevent the GSP from spreading beyond this piece.
Just be careful with the GSP, sadly through neglect a friends tank, was halfway overtaken by GSP. It overgrew acan lord's, zoa's, lobo, and a few other lps types. Just grew right over them slow and sure, despite the stinging sweepers from all the lps. http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc466/jasonstan3/Marks%20stuff/100_6003.jpg
Not saying the idea isn't cool, I like it very much actually. Well the entire build is cool. But just watch it like a hawk. Not sure how you could stop it from overtaking the Toadstool. Do they have some sort of natural repellent in there skin ?
CalmSeasQuest
04-18-2012, 12:58 PM
I'm very familier with the invasive properties of GSP. I don't believe the GSP will grow onto the living Toadstool tissue. Because the cabachon is suspended above the substrate via a small diameter acrylic rod, it will be easy to control any anywanted growth using my 445nm laser (http://www.captivereefs.com/forum/hardware/use-lasers-controlling-pest-algae-corals-19268/). The laser will also make it simple to maintain a DMZ-like margin around the Toadstool if needed.
Here's a short example...
Marine Aquarists Laser Series - GSP - YouTube
MizTanks
04-18-2012, 02:55 PM
I'm very familier with the invasive properties of GSP. I don't beleive the GSP will grow onto the living Toadstool tissue. Because the cabachon is suspended above the substrate via a small diameter acrylic rod, it will be easy to control any anywanted growth using my 445nm laser (http://www.captivereefs.com/forum/hardware/use-lasers-controlling-pest-algae-corals-19268/). The laser will also make it simple to maintain a DMZ-like margin around the Toadstool if needed.
Here's a short example...
Marine Aquarists Laser Series - GSP - YouTube (http://youtu.be/AvPltwSOZDc)
Whatever happened with this piece anyways? Did I miss the end results?
CalmSeasQuest
04-18-2012, 08:16 PM
Whatever happened with this piece anyways? Did I miss the end results?
You didn't miss anything Jamie. I'm giving the 3 most recent pieces a few days to open up and "get happy". I wont be back in my office till Friday so expect pics thereafter. I've got a few hours set aside tomorrow to work on the next 3 builds.
Next phase - Moving on to Monti's :)
adalius
04-23-2012, 10:48 AM
After reading your laser posts I saw this one and started reading. 20 minutes later (at work mind you) I finally get to the end and all I can say is wow. My jaw's on the floor at the entire notion behind this. The fact that you've taken it and essentially pushed away from the traditional to go, what I can only define as, modern art with coral, is just so awesome to me. I can't wait to see how this fleshes out with more growth over time.
CalmSeasQuest
04-23-2012, 05:52 PM
After reading your laser posts I saw this one and started reading. 20 minutes later (at work mind you) I finally get to the end and all I can say is wow. My jaw's on the floor at the entire notion behind this. The fact that you've taken it and essentially pushed away from the traditional to go, what I can only define as, modern art with coral, is just so awesome to me. I can't wait to see how this fleshes out with more growth over time.
Thanks Josh, I decided to Zig instead of Zag with this tank :)
Progress has been a little slow of late, I managed to drop and destroy one of the Monti pieces (structure only, not the corals) that I had hoped to install today. As promised here are a few photos of the most recent installs. A couple of these still look really rough and haven't fully opened yet. The clowns in their excitement ran square into the Paly cube causing them to close up...silly clownfish, if I didn't know better I could have sworn they did it on purpose when they saw the camera.
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/DSC_2664.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/DSC_2624.jpg
Although this "Paly Cube" looks horrible in this photo, I have high hopes for it. It's comprised of 2 polyps each, Palythoa Grandis, Cinnamin and Sunflower. These are among the largest Paly's I've ever seen and should quickly cover each facet of the cube.
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/DSC_2585.jpg
I've always liked Galaxia, but the sweepers can be a pain. I don't think it will hurt any of it's neighbors from this spot.
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/DSC_2608copy.jpg
Sympodium, a few Gonis and a Palm Clove to add some color and motion.
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/DSC_2644.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/DSC_2632.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/DSC_2627.jpg
The purple Photosynthetic Gorgonian Is finally starting to open up.
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/DSC_2647.jpg
The GSP have started laying down "film" and attaching to the cabochon.
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/DSC_2666.jpg
A FTS of the current inhabitants. Lots more yet to come. I'll be moving a few things around to make room for what's next. I mentioned the Galaxia sweepers - here's a short clip showing how they like to "reach out and touch" neighbors...
Galaxia (Galaxea fascicularis) - YouTube
Sir Patrick
04-23-2012, 09:13 PM
The pedestal idea for the Sympodium, Gonipora and a Palm Clove is an awsome idea!!!
That galaxia is going to be an eye catcher with all those tenticals in the flow! I have always been partial to them also.
Cant wait to see the new additions for the tank next week!
adalius
04-23-2012, 09:26 PM
Aye! The pedestal thing is awesome. I'm really looking forward to see how the frags choose to envelope them. Do you have any issues with flow at the far end of the tank?
CalmSeasQuest
04-23-2012, 09:50 PM
The pedestal idea for the Sympodium, Gonipora and a Palm Clove is an awsome idea!!!
That galaxia is going to be an eye catcher with all those tenticals in the flow! I have always been partial to them also.
Cant wait to see the new additions for the tank next week!
Thanks Chris - Me too, I'm looking forward to starting the SPS installs. I also have a piece designed just for Zoas that will contain a few of yours (assuming I can get down there to pick them up.)
Aye! The pedestal thing is awesome. I'm really looking forward to see how the frags choose to envelope them. Do you have any issues with flow at the far end of the tank?
Thanks Josh. Despite the 36" length, Flow hasn't been an issue as the tank is so open. The return pump puts out ~160 GPH which provides ~16 turnover. I have an MP10 that normally resides on the opposite end that is visible in the earlier photos. I removed it temporarily as I wanted reduced flow to allow the Rics a chance to attach the black substrate.
You get a sense of the flow watching the Galaxia video - Even without the MP10, there is plenty of flow for Acans and softies presently installed.
MizTanks
04-23-2012, 10:20 PM
Looking at this tank makes me feel calm inside......I truly mean this CSQ :) WOW!
jstan
04-25-2012, 11:34 AM
The fact that you've taken it and essentially pushed away from the traditional to go, what I can only define as, modern art with coral, is just so awesome to me. I can't wait to see how this fleshes out with more growth over time.
I think this far surpasses modern art, and has quite literally evolved into Living Art. I tip my hat to you sir, this tank is looking great. The paly cube is sweet, but I still like the toadstool piece the best(didn't know you had a laser...). Keep the creativity flowing.
CalmSeasQuest
04-25-2012, 04:19 PM
Looking at this tank makes me feel calm inside......I truly mean this CSQ :) WOW! Thanks Miz - I've always believed that sitting in front of my tank lowers my blood pressure a few points as well (unless something is leaking, alarming or waiting to be cleaned ;) )
I think this far surpasses modern art, and has quite literally evolved into Living Art. I tip my hat to you sir, this tank is looking great. The paly cube is sweet, but I still like the toadstool piece the best(didn't know you had a laser...). Keep the creativity flowing.
Thanks Jason. I have less-than-zero artistic talent, but it's been fun trying to "cobble" this build together. As for lasers, I've got a few :big_grin:
A few little updates...
I've been playing around with designing a bubble plate for the skimmer with limited success thus far. I'm about 4 generations into the design and I've learned that it functions differently with an air-stone driven skimmer than a traditional pump/venturi setup. I also believe I can improve performance with more air pressure being supplied to the air stone. I ordered a Luft Air pump that should provide about 7PSI - a dramatic improvement over the whisper currently used. I'll post photos as soon as I have something that I believe is an improvement.
I removed at least temporarily the Mangroves. Although they are growing well, it's pain to have to remove/replace them each time I want to fiddle with the skimmer and bubble plate.
The first SPS have been added to the tank :) 4 Montis are in the process of de-sliming after their move and installation. Photos to follow once they are happy.
CalmSeasQuest
04-27-2012, 05:28 PM
Added 4 more Montis and one Pectinia, but they're not ready for their close-ups yet. In the interim, here are a few cell-phone FTS pics...
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/IMG_20120427_173758.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/IMG_20120427_174402.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/IMG_20120427_173949.jpg
I'd like to get the 2 remaining pieces completed this weekend but to do so, I've got to make a trip to see Sir Patrick to pick some Zoas. Time will be a bit tight this weekend as i'll be spending much of Saturday at the Big House watching my son graduate from the University of MICHIGAN :big_grin:
MizTanks
04-27-2012, 07:35 PM
:wave::love::wave::love::woohoo::woohoo:
CalmSeasQuest
04-30-2012, 09:56 PM
The best laid plans of mice and men...
I had planned on installing the two final pieces along with the remaining corals today however, the final installation didn't survive transport (I pushed beyond the stress tolerance of 1/16" acrylic rod.) I will rebuilt the final piece and install it on Wednesday. I did place all the corals in the tank, many of which are "hanging out" on the substrate until I have time to install the last piece and get them mounted.
Here's a few quick photos including what will be the Zoa build. You can also see a bunch of Monties and Zoas sitting on the substrate...
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/DSC_2795.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/DSC_2790.jpg
While it appears rather drab and boring in this photo, this Pectinia is quite beautiful once it gets colored back up. It takes on a very deep translucent quality.
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/DSC_2789.jpg
This will hold a series of Zoanthids. The base will not be visible as it is hidden beneath the substrate.
The Tetra Luft air pump came in today, amazingly it has changed little since the last one I had 35 years ago providing the air for a couple tanks of Oscars and Jack Dempseys. I'll be adding it and another airstone to the skimmer. Although it's working well at present, I think 7 PSI coupled with the new bubble plate will improve it's performance. I've also been playing around with a tiny Hydor Pico Evolution pump to increase the flow through the skimmer. Once I see how the additional air works, I should be able to make a determination on the value of increased water flow.
Have I mentioned how easy it is to spend a lot of time tinkering with skimmers?
Sir Patrick
04-30-2012, 10:16 PM
This is going to look sweet!
Cant wait to see all the corals in their final placement.
MizTanks
04-30-2012, 11:08 PM
Tinker your way into making a Mame for my tank :)
CalmSeasQuest
04-30-2012, 11:14 PM
Tinker your way into making a Mame for my tank :)
CSQ Skimmer>Mame
Better, muuuuuch better. :big_grin:
adalius
05-01-2012, 07:20 AM
This looks crazy awesome. Just insanely cool.
CalmSeasQuest
05-02-2012, 08:21 PM
More Air = Good :)
I replaced the whisper air pump with the Luft and wow - what a huge improvement. While it's a bit louder than I had hoped, the airstone now cranks out so many fine bubbles that it has allowed me to raise the entire skimmer a few inches, improving the water flow. The Luft is powering a single airstone and is running at ~80% - Any higher output and it would overpower the skimmer, forcing wet froth down the drain line. :)
Before with the whisper (note the position of the top magnet compared to the after photo)
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Filtration4.jpg
Now with the Luft running at ~80%
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/2012-05-02140447.jpg
The next version of the bubble plate will include a lengthened airstone chamber which should allow the Luft to be run at 100%. I'm anxious to see what a difference it makes in skimmate production. It "appears" to be running so well, that I might not even bother adding a feed pump...Mames got nothing on this powerhouse of a Pico Foam Fractionation System :)
I installed the Zoa and Monti pieces today and mounted the corals. All that left is to get the Capricornis off the substrate and onto their new home which is nearly done and will be installed on Friday. Sorry for the cell cam photos - Hopefully all the Zoas will be open by then and ready for better photos and maybe a short video showing the Skimmer doing it's thing.
CalmSeasQuest
05-05-2012, 09:31 AM
Finally....done (at least with the builds, installs and coral mountings.) I may end up moving things around a bit.
I added the final piece, which I think may end up being my favorite (floating Capricornis.) The updates to the skimmer (Luft air pump and addition of a Hydor Evolution Mini pump) are working very well. The additional air and lift provided by the Luft allowed me to raise the skimmer ~3". I think I'm about done tweaking the skimmer and now have room to replace the Mangroves but... as it's past the 5/1 contest cutoff for adding items, I'll have to wait until after the conclusion of the contest to put them back in.
I re-installed the MP-10, it will take a bit of tweaking. With all the motion I've designed into this build, I think this tank will look great with a small standing wave:fish2:. Alk is being maintained at present with just the Kalk being added to the ATO, so I haven't started using the BRS dosing pumps. As demand increases, I'll add the 2-part.
Here are a few photos and a quick video to show the current status. I'll take more Macro shots as everything colors-up and recovers from the shock of Fragging, transport and install.
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/2011-12-22183115.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/DSC_1763.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/Paly.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/CalmSeasQuest/Reef/2012%20Nano%20Build/DSC_1764.jpg
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CalmSeasQuest Desktop Nano 2012.05.02 - YouTube
MizTanks
05-05-2012, 11:15 AM
Added to my favorites :)
adalius
05-05-2012, 11:29 AM
I knew from the get go this was gonna be insanely awesome. I feel vindicated.:)
SnowflakeCoral
05-05-2012, 11:38 AM
Probably the most unique tank I've seen! Very cool! Can't wait to see it in a few months
CalmSeasQuest
05-07-2012, 06:02 PM
Added to my favorites :)
Thanks Jamie - Although it's definitely not a "traditional" reef, I'll admit, the more I gaze at it, the more I like it :)
I knew from the get go this was gonna be insanely awesome. I feel vindicated.:)
LOL - Thanks Josh :)
Probably the most unique tank I've seen! Very cool! Can't wait to see it in a few months
Thank You Snowflake - I'm excited to see it grow out as well. Each piece was designed with the hope that it would largely disappear as each coral envelopes it. I used very thin (1/16") diameter acrylic rod to allow many of the corals to appear suspended mid in the water column and gently sway back and forth with the changing current, compliments of the MP-10...Well, that's the plan anyway, time will tell how it works out :)
CalmSeasQuest
05-07-2012, 06:06 PM
Original Post Updated to Include Final Stock List and Costs.
CalmSeasQuest
05-11-2012, 07:36 PM
Friday update...
I like the natural light the tank gets in the late afternoons...
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The Acans are loving life - now over 40+ heads
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Coralline is beginning to form on the bridge stones and acrylic edges
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Technically this is a lousy photo, but I like the coral silhouettes created by the setting sun.
Everything is doing well, starting to see corals growing onto the acrylic and the clowns act like they own the place. :)
thepanfish
05-11-2012, 08:04 PM
CSQ, do you think this concept could be scaled up? I will not be using a SB on the new tank.
CalmSeasQuest
05-11-2012, 09:41 PM
CSQ, do you think this concept could be scaled up? I will not be using a SB on the new tank.
This scales to any size, Pico to Mega including BB tanks and provides numerous advantages over "traditional tanks, albeit at a very different look. Simply adjust the size and gauge of the material used to fit the design. For BB, mount each piece to plate(s) and affix to the tank bottom using a dab of silicone (if the tank is dry) or drop of cyanacrylate.
I made quite a few pieces that I ended up not using in this build, many with some additional finish work would work well in a BB tank...
I really like this one but scale wise, it was a tad too large for this build...
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This one is in the current build, you can see how easily the base could be adapted for use without substrate.
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Modularity is another advantage - I've got lots of ideas for future designs that I'll likely rotate into this build (after the contest of course) or use in the next tanks (inevitable.)
The bottom line is as long as you adhere to basic husbandry requirements, Coral doesn't care if it's attached to rock - live or otherwise. Replacing the lost bio-filtration from the absence of live rock or a DSB was my primary concern, Thus far the DIY skimmer coupled with mechanical (filter pad), biological (MarinePure trickle tower - still zero measurable nitrates!) and chemical (GAC/GFO) have worked very well rendering the "CSQ" concept viable :)
MizTanks
05-11-2012, 11:34 PM
Hmmm "CSQ Concept" sounds like a title of some sort ;)
CalmSeasQuest
05-12-2012, 03:58 PM
Hmmm "CSQ Concept" sounds like a title of some sort ;)
I have to call it something - Just imaging how hard it is to explain this tank to someone who hasn't seen it. I get lots of strange looks ;)
This tank has really been an adventure and a series of pleasant surprises. I say surprises because I had no idea what to expect having had no experience working with acrylic, or much of any DIY background. What I found is that if you allow your self to "screw up" enough times without quitting, odds are that in the end, you'll come up with something good :). Here are my observations thus far...
Foam Fractionation
The skimmer turned out to be a real surprise - I hadn't initially planned on including a skimmer on this build, especially when I realized I would only have about 2" available in the overflow area. A quick look at all the commercially available nano-sized skimmers returned little of interest. I had seen very small skimmers made by Mame and a very talented DIY'r named Glazier, but decided they didn't fit the needs of this tank so... I ordered acrylic - lots of different sizes and shapes to start testing with. I'll be the first to admit that I'm surprised at how well this little skimmer performs. I think the key was using the largest possible diameter drain line thereby minimizing back pressure, allowing it to "breath" properly.
Bio-Filtration
As I thought about this build, the greatest initial challenge was how to handle bio-filtration without any live rock. The location where this tank resides doesn't allow for a sump, and I wanted the display area to be free of traditional aquascaping....hence the problem. I had used bio balls and other variants years ago during the inescapable plenum and wet/dry days and swore never to return, yet I had to find a way to make this work in a very tiny overflow area. As I researched bio-media, I came across the MarinePure ceramic spheres and was impressed by the porosity and surface area claims. I reasoned that if I could create an area that pre-filtered water passed through extremely slowly (I'm banning the word trickle), I could create an aerobic environment for processing Nitrites, and just perhaps an adjacent anaerobic area (center of the spheres) that might provide some level of denitrification. So I built a vertical tower using acrylic that holds staggered columns of MarinePure ceramics that is constantly fed a very small volume of skimmed and filtered water. It's still far too early to draw any conclusions, but so far so good. The filtration plan appears to be working with no measurable Nitrates or nuisance algaes.
Acylics
I used to think I spent a lot of time when aquascaping a tank, spending hours on end arranging and re-arranging rocks. That time sink pales in comparison to how much time can be spent working with acrylic. Between the various skimmer and bubble plate designs to the 20+ coral mounting pieces that were created (not including those that ended up being destroyed by dropping, being stepped on, sat on, melted or exploding under a saw, drill bit or Dremel.) And then there were those that failed stress tests, or succumbed to my OJT flame polishing methods....the do-overs were plentiful. Out of sheer embarrassment, I will never admit how many hours I spent on this project.
With all that said, I've had a blast with this built. I love the fact that I can tinker endlessly with it (although I've found it a major distraction at work.) Because each coral build is modular, it's easy to move things around, replace entire pieces or swap out individual corals with ease. While I'll never give up my "traditional" tanks, from a reefing perspective, It's forced me to think in the most non-traditional, "Abbynormal" terms. What I discovered was - It can be fun coloring outside the lines.
Thank you to everyone that has spent their time tagging along and for all the kind comments. :)
MizTanks
05-12-2012, 04:50 PM
:wave::wave::clap::clap::clap: :love2: Thank you CSQ for taking the time to share this wonderfully awesome build with us. I've yet to enjoy one as much as I have yours!
CalmSeasQuest
05-18-2012, 12:31 PM
Friday update - Tank's been wet for 90 days.
I have some very sad news to share. On returning to my office Monday, I was able to locate only one of the Clowns. After some searching, I found the other about 3 feet away on an office chair. At some point over the weekend it had jumped out of the tank, onto the desk and flopped several feet before ending up on the chair.
I struggled initially with the decision of whether or not to have fish in this tank having had none in the prior version. The shallow depth and open top would obviously be a risk but in 20 years of Reef Keeping, I'd never had a clown jump. After doing some research and talking with Tal (Clownfish Breeder) I decided to go ahead. This decision was also made based on the fact they would be the only fish in the tank and not subject to any harassment.
In observing these two for the past couple months, I saw no concerns - they rarely spooked and spent virtually all of their time along the substrate. They had seemingly settled in very nicely. I don't know what happened to cause the jump, perhaps the cleaning crew that works over the weekend spooked them somehow.
To make matters worse, the remaining Picasso now refused to eat. It's as if he was in mourning for his lost partner. I was faced with a decision. I had no other suitable tank to move the remaining Picasso into as my DT has a pair of much larger Darwins that would have made quick work of him. After talking with Tal, he suggested placing another Clown in the tank to hopefully "cheer" up my Picasso and encourage him to eat. As Tal had no other Picassos available, he volunteered a very new, tiny Percula (still developing it's stripe.) I drove a couple hours to get the little one and by 7pm Monday evening, my Picasso had a friend...by 8PM, they were both eating. :)
I'll ultimately look for another comparable Picasso, but in the interim, I'm just happy they're happy. All else is doing well, Corals continue to grow and envelop the acrylic. Water parameters are rock solid with no signs of algae.
I'll try and post a few photos later today.
MizTanks
05-18-2012, 01:13 PM
Such sad news CSQ :( I'm very sorry for your loss ((HUGS)) :angelsad: Anyway to make a temp cover for just the weekends? Like some mesh with weights attached to the 4 corners and like drape in over the top? Just an idea :)
adalius
05-18-2012, 01:13 PM
Is there any way to do any sort of a netting on top without affecting the aesthetics from the side view? Clear thin strand bird net might be light enough to be not noticed if you could figure out a way to build a frame that doesn't stand out (or a small amount of weight at each joint, like a fishing sinker size might keep it taut enough)...
adalius
05-18-2012, 01:20 PM
I see Miz & I think alike with the weighted top idea. :D
Tom@HaslettMI
05-30-2012, 11:25 PM
Sorry for your loss. I wonder if the two clowns were trying to decide who was going to be the lady in the relationship. I have had clowns get pretty mean toward each other when they reached sexual maturity. It seems to be most common when both fish are about the same size.
Tom
AJ :)
05-31-2012, 05:51 AM
Sorry to hear about the jumper. Tom's thought does seem possible.
Glad to hear you have both fish doing well now.
CalmSeasQuest
06-04-2012, 05:00 PM
The tank is pretty much on autopilot. I did have to manually increase Alk a bit. I've now got the ATO maxed out with Kalk.
A few quick cell phone shots showing things "settling in"...
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I think I'm most excited about how well the skimmer and filtration tower have performed (Nitrates are still un-measurable.) I think this might open up new options for handling filtration in nano/pico tanks.
CalmSeasQuest
06-15-2012, 07:06 AM
I guess that a wrap - I see Jim has put up the voting thread (http://www.captivereefs.com/forum/cr-contests/vote-best-nano-build-22001/). I hope everyone will take time to review each contestants build thread and vote for your favorite.
One of the challenges with this tank are the proportions - Because the tank is so long (when compared to other nanos), trying to get a FTS results in the photo being taken from very far away making it difficult to make out details within the tank. This is also the case for the final contest photo. I apologize for the photo seemingly being so far away, and I hope I've provided enough macro shots throughout the build thread to give you a sense of the tank and it's design.
I've had a lot of fun and learned quite a bit with this build. Far beyond the "unique" aquascaping, I never imagined I'd build a skimmer - even more surprisingly, one that actually works very well :). I'm also excited about the filtration tower. A very compact and easy-to-do idea that I've found to be effective in helping maintain water quality. I think it's playing a large role in the success of the tank - especially since there is no live rock whatsoever.
Thanks again for tagging along and for all your comments and suggestions throughout the build. I hope you'll take a moment to determine your favorite and http://www.captivereefs.com/forum/cr-contests/vote-best-nano-build-22001/
jstan
12-06-2012, 07:28 PM
SO, is the tank still running or did it get torn down, as soon as the contest was over.
It'd be nice to see this fully grown in and mature. Especially with all the neat acrylic base structures.
UPDATE, UPDATE, UPDATE !!!!! please
MizTanks
12-06-2012, 10:19 PM
It's like CSQ has dropped off the face of CR :(
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