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dlhirst
12-18-2012, 09:03 PM
I decided that the best way to combat the cyano in my tank was to do some deep cleaning. In that vein, I have been seriously vacuuming the sand bed (and seeing lots of detritus coming out). The cyano has been retreating well, but then someone warned me of more toxins in the sand? Like, I don't have enough troubles?

My sand is maybe 2-3" deep, no more. Do I really need to fret over this?

AZDesertRat
12-19-2012, 08:12 AM
2-3" is approaching the depth of a fully functiooning DSB so could contain anaerobic, facultative and anoxic bacterias down deep. Personally I would say if you intend to vacuum and disturb it reduce the depth to less than 2" or go for the whole enchilada and increase it to 4-6" and leave it alone so the bacteria can do their job.

taziam10797
12-19-2012, 08:34 AM
Chemi-Clean will get rid of the cyano. Just use a small tube to get what cyano you can out then apply the chemi-clean as per directions. good luck

bigbill
12-26-2012, 09:38 AM
i agree with the first 2 be very careful cleaning a sand bed. i have a deep sand bed and clean it once a month in sections. but its a must do if u ask me i got a few fish who like to tear up the sand bed from time one being my Marron clowns. my sand be is a mix of fine sand for 2 inches then crushed coral on top of that for 2 inch

Flynnstone
01-01-2013, 09:27 AM
if the sand bed is accumulating debrie, i would increase the flow rate in the tank.
if you have a calcium based material for the sand bed, i would simple change out 1/3 of each week instead of just siphoning it. phosphates from food and waste, that settled to the bottom, will bind to calcium and release it back into the system down the road.
if the cyano bacteria is all over the tank, then the substrate cannot be singles out as the only or main issue.

if you are dosing a carbon/vodka source, this will also feed the cyano.

saltcritters
01-20-2013, 09:56 PM
I agree 100% with taking it slow and working in sections if you plan to siphon or remove any sand bed.

thepanfish
01-21-2013, 09:24 AM
Are you currently using any sort of carbon dosing such as biopellets?