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FlaReefer
04-16-2006, 08:10 PM
We're setting up our first reef tank and have decided to go with a 210 gal set up. I've got the lighting , tank, skimmer etc all sized for the tank and ready to be picked up with the tank/stand in another 2 weeks. MY BIG QUESTION is that someone asked me if I wanted to add a refugium - so I had to first find out what it was - researched it - and now I know. My burning question (I want to do right by the animals) is it really a benefit to have a refuge for the system or will conventional (skimmer, sterilizer, etc) filtration system do the job just as well ? I've gotten 2 different answers and am of course confused. Will some of you who have experience with these systems/refuges give me some guidance on why I should add one as well as what to look for in a refugium as well as what to avoid. My main interest is in keeping the reef aquarium critters healthy and happy. Please HELP !!

Ron :study:

at
04-16-2006, 09:30 PM
It seems a refugium is starting to be the way to go from everything I have read. I dont have one but a guy at the LFS says his actually is a food source for coral and fish. You could add one later any way

mutts
04-18-2006, 01:26 PM
i would think about adding a sump first then you can add your refugium to that later on if you find out you would like one

lReef lKeeper
04-18-2006, 01:50 PM
i have a refugium in my sump. i think that anytime you can have one you should. anytime you can add more water and flow to you display tank you will benifit the inhabitants of that display tank. if gives a place for certain algeas and pods to breed and live while supplying the display with enough of them to feed certain fish and corals. but this is just my opinion and im sure you will get some replies that are the exact opposite of mine. so it is really up to you, but i suggest one whenever it is possible.

sticky
04-18-2006, 02:03 PM
I prefer the sump/ref/skimmer setup I have. On 1 end is the skimmer, the middle is my ref and the other end is my sump/return pump. It gives me a place to grow my cheato/calupra as well as a safe haven for pods and other small critters. I have mineral mud and argonite in my ref to help with break downs as well as extra LR to assist.

I agree with bobby on the fact additional water and flow help the tank and a place for things to grow, as well it is a nice healing area if you need to put fish/critters/corals a place to heal up.

peregrinus
04-18-2006, 04:21 PM
i'v always started tanks with just refug and never had any proglems. plus you get the bonus of the critters in the refug that you get to see and the different types of algae.

lReef lKeeper
04-18-2006, 07:13 PM
i can't believe noone has diagreed yet. usually about 10 people have already posted the exact opposite of what i said. but FlaReefer, what works for one of us may not work for you. that is just something that you will learn in time.

Sea~Horse~Whisperer
04-18-2006, 11:19 PM
I also have the 3 part sump 1st part skimmer and drain from tank, 2nd fuge, 3rd return. If you are just setting up the tank I would go that way. It saves the trouble of adding it later. (I've redone mine 3 times when I should have just done it this way the first time.....live and learn) Good luck with the new tank.

Angie

PurpleAardvark
04-23-2006, 12:17 AM
I agree, a sump/fuge/skimmer combo is a good way to go. Check out My reef creations sump combo's. Andy is a great guy to deal with and if you don't like the design he will build one to your specs/needs.

segraves1
04-23-2006, 12:24 AM
wouldn't it be better to have:

the fuge first, followed by the skimmer, and last be the return?

my thinking is, let the "dirty" water go to the fuge first that way the macros, feather dusters, etc. get as much "food" as possible, then what gets past them, could go into the skimmer?

or does it matter?

Sea~Horse~Whisperer
04-23-2006, 02:22 AM
the fuge is usually a calmer space for the pods and microfauna to reproduce. It also usually has a sandbed in it. If you have the drain from the tank going into the fuge, it will stir everything up and it will be a nitrate mess. ( When switching sumps or cleaning it out I've stirred up the sand and it created a nitrate spike in the main tank) The skimmer in the first chamber will not skim all of the water that comes from the tank. There is plenty of food that gets to the fuge. A lot of the water makes it past the skimmer.

I hope that helps.
Angie

pro2k
09-06-2006, 09:32 PM
How do you get pods and other micro bugs to grow in the fuge? I've had one running for a long time and never saw any "bugs" in there. Just macro algae and microalgae.

stevebla
09-08-2006, 11:34 AM
I enjoy all the diverse life that appears in the fuge as if by magic. They are fun so set one up in a tank that will fit in your stand.