Help Rose Bubble Tip Dying I think

[psychob82]

Can some one help me with my Rose Bubble tip. I think it is dying. Here are some pics some before and after pics. I will get the levels of my tank up here soon. Some one please help i dont want to loose it.

Before;



1845


NOW:

http://www.captivereefing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1846&d=1147870215

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His mouth is all swollen.

[Reptoreef]

get those levels in check asap and then monitor the progress from there... consistancy is key.

[lReef lKeeper]

i agree with repto, its hard for us to help if we dont know the water parameters and all the key "ingredients" you are using.

[Whoyah]

Please detail what type of lighting you have and feeding schedule fo the anemone.

[psychob82]

I have 4 T5 lights:
54W 6500K Daylight T5 HO Fluorescent
54W 11000K Aquablue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent
2-54W Actinic/Blue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent

I feed it about every 3 days. I feed him a small piece of shrimp or MYSIS shrimp. Sometimes i soak the mysis shrimp with Kent Garlic.

I think it is my water. i just did a 10% water change. I usually check it once a week, and my numbers have changed alot since last week.

PH is 8.1
temp 80
Ammonia .0125
Nitrate 10
Nitrite .075
Alkalinity 1.6
Calcium 320

I hope i can get my levels back to normal before she dies. Any ideas on how to save her or get my levels back to normal??????

[unleashed]

I have 4 T5 lights:
54W 6500K Daylight T5 HO Fluorescent
54W 11000K Aquablue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent
2-54W Actinic/Blue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent

I feed it about every 3 days. I feed him a small piece of shrimp or MYSIS shrimp. Sometimes i soak the mysis shrimp with Kent Garlic.

I think it is my water. i just did a 10% water change. I usually check it once a week, and my numbers have changed alot since last week.

PH is 8.1
temp 80
Ammonia .0125
Nitrate 10
Nitrite .075
Alkalinity 1.6
Calcium 320

I hope i can get my levels back to normal before she dies. Any ideas on how to save her or get my levels back to normal?????? i would def dare to say it a few water quality issues.
PH is 8.1- bring that up to 8.3
temp 80
Ammonia .0125- down to 0 or as close as possible
Nitrate 10- nitrated down (those arent lethal yet but will be soon
Nitrite .075.get this one down -0
Alkalinity 1.6 needs to be in the ranges of 2.51-4.34 bring those levels up
Calcium 320. cal needs to be up between 350-450

as an addeditve for your enenome food in place of garlic(it doesnt do anything for inverts) i reccomend selcon which is good for all marine life fish and inverts small peices of boneless fish(marine species) will also do your anenome well.I hope this helps good luck. water changes and buffers after water changes test all levels .I would go as much as 50% but no more in a day time

[Whoyah]

I agree with Unleashed. You need to get your water parameters back in line. I would do a water change daily until you get them under control. How old is the tank? It seems like you maybe going through a cycle. Did you recently increase the bio load on the tank?

[psychob82]

Yes i add some plants in my refug that was mailed to me, more snails, and hermits and 2 fish.. tank has been up and running for about 2 months with animals in it and about 1 and half before that. No that i think about it i probably getting some die off from those plants.

[Whoyah]

Do the plants look pretty health? I would leave them in if they seems healthy. Remove any that are clearly dying. The health plants will help with the nitrates at least. I am guessing you are experiencing a mini cycle due to increase in bio-load. I would due a water change daily, turn up your skimmer and back off on the feedings. Getting the ammonia and nitraites down to zero is very important. This will happen as the cycle completes and will be helped along by the water changes. I would also raise the alkalinity to stabilize the pH swings. Baking Soda will work. Here is a good calculator.

http://home.comcast.net/~jdieck1/chem_calc3.html

[Fatman]

Mine does that sometimes, I think it has to do with releasing waste or something. It happens for like 30 mins, then stops. Hopefully everything gets better soon good luck.

[psychob82]

My levels have gotten better. I have a 75g and I did a 25g swap. I am going to do another 15g tonight. Some are back to normal but still need to get some down. Sorry I don

[Fally]

I wouldn't say it is dying. Just very unhappy. You would know if it was dying, it would turn into a small ball of goo...

Just be sure to do everything slowly, it is the change that hurts them the worst. Their body is full of water, so if the tank water changes it is not the same as their internal fluid. That is why they deflate and inflate themselves, to equalize everything.

I would definately want to keep the clown away from it if it is really roughing it up...

Best of luck!

[unleashed]

I wouldn't say it is dying. Just very unhappy. You would know if it was dying, it would turn into a small ball of goo...

Just be sure to do everything slowly, it is the change that hurts them the worst. Their body is full of water, so if the tank water changes it is not the same as their internal fluid. That is why they deflate and inflate themselves, to equalize everything.

I would definately want to keep the clown away from it if it is really roughing it up...

Best of luck! turning into a ball of goo is not a sign of dying its a sign of dead sorry to say once its goo it gone to no point of return. you want to stop this before it happens.check those parimeters befor doing another water change buffer as needed ph cal alk ect if you tnitrates and ammonias are in check.

[lReef lKeeper]

Mine does that sometimes, I think it has to do with releasing waste or something. It happens for like 30 mins, then stops. Hopefully everything gets better soon good luck.

anemonies release waste and expell old saltwater out of thier bodies and refill with new water. this may be what it is doing. it usually takes a couple days to get back to normal after doing this. it takes a couple days because, how would you feel pooping out of your mouth, and it is a kind of stressful time for the anemone. i would just keep an eye on if for a few days and if it gets no better then we can figure out what it is that is bothering it.

[RWalston]

Here is a website I have posted before. It is great reading for BTA

http://www.freewebs.com/karenssaltwater/

[psychob82]

Thanks for all the good information but it was just to late. It finally detached it self, never opened again and had white cottage cheese like substance on it. My wife and i really liked watching it with our clowns. We are going to let our tank cycle for awhile before we get another one. Any good ideas on something to give my clowns a home?

[unleashed]

Thanks for all the good information but it was just to late. It finally detached it self, never opened again and had white cottage cheese like substance on it. My wife and i really liked watching it with our clowns. We are going to let our tank cycle for awhile before we get another one. Any good ideas on something to give my clowns a home? but it turn to goop?i almost tossed one(in the beginning)chances are if it didnt fall apart when you removed it it wasnt dead.as for letting your tank cycle that may be a good idea anenomes are far to sensetive to be housed ina newly set up tank they cannot withstand the swings in nitrate or ammonia levels.as for housing for your clowns they will be fine without an anenome they do not require each other to live.as for housing if your hoping they will pair off they my still do this in a cave you can also add a small ceramic(clay) pot i have seen many ppl use this method for breeders

[lReef lKeeper]

i have 2 pink skunk clowns that host in my toadstool leather, 1 even ocassionally hides out in my anthelia colony. so if they feel threatened they may host to almost anything with "tenticles" or long polyps.

[RWalston]

thats not true bobby. My are hosting a clam right now. They were hosting a large colony of zo's I moved that to a different tank and moved my clam to the place my zo's were. Now my clowns are hosting the clam. They have already layed eggs on the side. Papa stays at the bottom out side of the clam near the sand and mama stays about a half inch from the top of the mattle what makes me mad is that i have 2 RBTA inches a way from the clam and they wont even look at them.

[unleashed]

thats not true bobby. My are hosting a clam right now. They were hosting a large colony of zo's I moved that to a different tank and moved my clam to the place my zo's were. Now my clowns are hosting the clam. They have already layed eggs on the side. Papa stays at the bottom out side of the clam near the sand and mama stays about a half inch from the top of the mattle what makes me mad is that i have 2 RBTA inches a way from the clam and they wont even look at them. not all clown species take to all species of anenome its always a hit or miss with them its not uncommon at all for clowns to find other housing preferences even when an enenome is present even if the anenome is a species the clowns may be found in