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SantaMonicaHelp
05-03-2014, 03:39 PM
Lowest cost and easiest way to eliminate green hair, bubble, turf and slime algae from your aquarium (hopefully permanently).

This new test version of the algae scrubber is much easier to build than the waterfall version (the Mega Powerful one), and is perfect for nano's. This new scrubber has never been posted before May 2012. It works in both freshwater and saltwater.

If you are like most aquatic hobbyists, nuisance algae is an ongoing problem. You try to feed your livestock, and the next thing you know, you get algae. You've already tried many fixes; some work but are expensive; some kind of work but you're not sure; and some just don't work at all.

Think about what is happening: Your aquarium is accumulating nutrients (nitrate and phosphate) because of the food you feed. Algae eat nitrate and phosphate to grow, so the algae are having a great time growing in your water because they are eating all your nutrients! What to do?

Well think about this: In order to grow, algae must be provided with nitrate and phosphate. So why can't you just use the algae to consume all the nitrate and phosphate? The answer: You can! How? With a simple device you build called an Upflow Algae Scrubber. It's simple, cheap, and you can make a small one in just a few minutes with parts you probably already have. I'll be posting more complex versions later, but here are some pics of the most basic design that you can use for testing:

(will be updated periodically)

http://www.algaescrubber.net/Post1.jpg




An "algae scrubber" is a simple filter that actually grows algae in the filter, so that the algae do not grow in other parts of your aquarium. Simply put, the conditions for algae growth inside the filter are better than the conditions in the rest of your aquarium; thus the algae grow in the filter instead of your aquarium, and then you just remove the algae from the filter and throw the algae away. But in order for the algae to grow in the filter, the algae need to consume nitrate and phosphate; so guess where the nitrate and phosphate come from? Your water!

If you stop and think about it, algae always grow in certain spots, and not in others. This is because some of the three growing conditions (light, flow, nutrients) are better in some parts of your water than they are in others. An "upflow algae scrubber" simply optimizes these conditions, and does so at a place where the algae can be easily removed and thrown away. And once the nitrate and phosphate have been removed from your water, all other nuisance algae such as green hair, bubble, turf and slime, will have a hard time staying alive.

So where have these filters been all this time, and why haven't you heard of them if they work so well? Well the original waterfall version ( the Mega Powerful thread posted in August 2008 ) was hard to build, and was not really for sale anywhere; so unless you liked to build things from scratch, you had no choice but to buy some other kind of filter. All the filter really needed to do was to create good growing conditions (light, flow, nutrients) for the algae, by flowing the water across a piece of rough material, so that the algae would grow on the material instead of somewhere else in the aquarium. The waterfall algae scrubber did grow lots of algae in the filter, and it removed lots of algae from aquariums: Over 1,000 people built their own waterfall algae scrubbers, and reported their results on various forums during a 4 year period; almost all of them wiped out their nuisance algae within 8 weeks, and many did so in 4 weeks. And on other forums that I never posted on, an estimated 10,000 people built their own waterfall algae scrubbers with similar results.

A little over a year ago in April 2011, another idea came along: Instead of letting the water flow down a screen like a waterfall, how about you let the water flow up the screen using air bubbles? Why? Because as good as waterfall algae scrubbers are, they still need a place for the water to drain "down" to. This means that you need to have a sump below the aquarium, or you need to have the scrubber up above the aquarium. This is not easy, and is very difficult for a nano aquarium which usually has no sump below it, and no room above it. Also, the waterfall version requires it to be out of the water (in the air), which takes up extra space. The new "upflow" version, however, can be placed inside the aquarium, so that it takes up no extra space at all, and it needs no external plumbing or water pumps at all. Only air bubbles.

The Upflow Algae Scrubber (UAS) provides the best growing conditions for algae in your tank: Air bubbles provide rapid turbulent flow; Strong lighting provides the light; and the nutrients that are already in your water provide the nitrate and phosphate. All that's needed is a place for the algae to attach to, and that is provided by the roughed-up plastic screen. Thus the algae start growing on the screen because the flow and lighting are stronger there than they are in the rest of your aquarium; nitrate and phosphate are consumed in the process. This causes algae to start disappearing from your aquarium and start re-appearing on the scrubber screen, so that you can throw the algae away every week or two.

The most basic way to set up an Upflow Algae Scrubber, especially in small aquariums, is just to put some air bubbles beneath a vertical screen. If inside an aquarium, you just put a light on the outside of the glass, so that it shines inside to the screen. And if you want better performance (which means better filtering), just add a reflector to give the screen some light on both sides. The screen is best made with 7-mesh cross stitch plastic canvas that you get at sewing or craft stores, or online. Also, don't forget to rough up the screen with a sharp object like a hole saw; the screen should be so rough that the screen holes are almost filled in with all the little pieces of plastic that you roughed up.

One thing to remember is that an Upflow Algae Scrubber (or any algae scrubber) will not cause more algae to grow in your aquarium. Instead, the algae will disappear from your aquarium, and will start to grow on the scrubber screen instead. You then just remove the screen and scrape the algae off. And here's a surprise: Watch out for your fish or snails eating your filter! There's nothing tastier than live green algae, so your fish or snails may keep your screen from getting very thick. The simple solution is to just put some mesh or netting around it.

There are a couple of requirements that have been learned since August 2008 which will get you started quicker. The size of the Upflow Algae Scrubber that is needed is based on how much you feed, and not how much water you have, because the nutrients that cause algae to grow come from the food you feed. The following updated picture has size guidelines:

(will be updated periodically; if picture cuts off, open in new window)

http://algaescrubber.net/Sizing.jpg



And the following updated picture has examples:

(will be updated periodically; if picture cuts off, open in new window)

http://algaescrubber.net/Examples.jpg




So build a UAS and post your pictures!
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SantaMonicaHelp
05-10-2014, 08:53 PM
OK some growth pics...

Floyd R Turbo on the GIRS site:
http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasFloydrturboOnAS-1.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasFloydrturboOnAS-2.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasFloydrturboOnAS-3.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasFloydrturboOnAS-4.jpg



Rkyrickstr on the TF site:
http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasRkyrickstrOnAS-1.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasRkyrickstrOnAS-2.jpg



Ruddybop on the MFK site:
http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasRuddybopOnMFK-1.JPG



Fishuntbike on the scrubber site:
http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasFishuntbikeOnAS-1.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasFishuntbikeOnAS-2.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasFishuntbikeOnAS-3.jpg



And mine...
http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasSantaMonica-1.jpg

ReeferMike
05-19-2014, 07:26 AM
This is the first I've heard of an upflow algae scrubber. I've been running a waterfall for a few months now with very good results. Based on the pics it seems this is another very viable option. Thanks for the post.

ReeferMike
05-19-2014, 07:27 AM
Has anyone tried making a screen that is a waterfall above the waterline and an upflow under the waterline?

SantaMonicaHelp
05-20-2014, 10:20 PM
Yes a few have done that.

skuttduck
03-08-2015, 07:34 PM
I'll have to see how my little experiment is going. My 11 year old reef tank is having a nasty little algae bloom. I beat it before when I first got the tank and hoping to beat it again.

I had a left over fuse type white LED light from my stereo. I also had a piece of screen left over from my screen door that was plastic. My experience with my tank has been the plastic screen's I've had on the overflows do grow red turf algae.

I used a couple of plastic containers from my frozen meals and a air pump.

SantaMonicaHelp
03-08-2015, 09:52 PM
Looking forward to seeing it :)

Red lights would work better though.

skuttduck
03-09-2015, 08:07 AM
Looking forward to seeing it :)

Red lights would work better though.

I do actually have a piece of red plastic over the leds.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203840759362581&l=8fc9d9645a

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203840759562586&l=b44a8ab37e

I was able to find all this stuff laying around the house to make it, so I figured why not. The AC adapter I used for LED was from an old linksys switch that broke.

SantaMonicaHelp
03-09-2015, 12:57 PM
I could not see the pics, but let's see how it grows.

There is no need for the red plastic.

skuttduck
03-09-2015, 01:26 PM
Let me see if I can get these photos to show then.

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SantaMonicaHelp
03-09-2015, 01:38 PM
Ah ok, let's see how it looks in 10 days. :)

skuttduck
03-10-2015, 07:24 AM
Ah ok, let's see how it looks in 10 days. :)

Ok. I have some real strong green turf algae growing on the live rock in my display tank. Do you think I should pull a bit off of there and put it in the scrubber?

I also did a water change last night and discovered a spot in the back of my tank that was littered in detritus that I managed to siphon out. This stuff was like chocolate milk and smelled like sewage.

SantaMonicaHelp
03-10-2015, 12:02 PM
No let it seed on it's own.

BTW, food particles on the reef smell like that :)

skuttduck
03-20-2015, 04:54 PM
Update: I am starting to get some growth on the window screen I used.

I also changed the lights to the RED led's that Tom gave me. I have the lights on the scrubber 22 hours.

pjr
03-25-2015, 08:36 AM
Following.... been getting some bubble algae, so any solution would be great!

skuttduck
03-25-2015, 11:57 AM
Following.... been getting some bubble algae, so any solution would be great!

Well I will say this. If you get a break out of hair algae, I noticed that it will smother bubble algae and kill it.

I've had some bubble algae that was as big as an egg before and never really had to worry too much about it. I also noticed that the hair algae outbreak has killed a couple stubborn aptasia as well.

I'm not getting huge growth in the scrubber, perhaps the fact I have to empty my skimmer daily and the GFO have something to do with that, or maybe because I used part of a fiberglass window screen instead of the cross stitch stuff.

skuttduck
04-01-2015, 01:25 PM
I am starting to get some really strange slime like algae in the scrubber. It is growing stuff, and I still have the hair algae bloom in the main tank and the skimmer (Euroreef 5-3) is pulling out enough that I have to clean it once a day.10622

SantaMonicaHelp
06-15-2015, 05:42 PM
How's it growing now? That dark growth you posted above, is usually from a weak scrubber light.

Sandra

SantaMonicaHelp
06-15-2015, 05:54 PM
Everybody loves growth pictures:

Day 1:
http://www.algaescrubber.net/hog.5-7.jpg

Day 2:
http://www.algaescrubber.net/hog.5-8.jpg

Day 3:
http://www.algaescrubber.net/hog.5-9.jpg

Day 4:
http://www.algaescrubber.net/hog.5-10.jpg

Day 5:
http://www.algaescrubber.net/hog.5-11.jpg

Day 6:
http://www.algaescrubber.net/hog.5-12.jpg

Day 7:
http://www.algaescrubber.net/hog.5-13.jpg

Day 8:
http://www.algaescrubber.net/hog.5-14.jpg

Day 9:
http://www.algaescrubber.net/hog.5-15.jpg

7 Days of growth after first cleaning:
http://www.algaescrubber.net/hog.5-16.jpg

Video of first cleaning after 9 days of growth from a new screen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0K4UCp9_aA


Time to eat more TV dinners and save those trays :)

Sandra

SantaMonicaHelp
06-15-2015, 05:55 PM
Woops, forgot this one :

Video of 7 days of growth after the first cleaning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o14culabk7k

skuttduck
06-15-2015, 08:07 PM
I will have to get you some new photos.

I never got quite that much growth, but since initially I have a full screen that I have going that I clean off weekly. I also lost my 10 year old squamosa clam :(

My sump was also upgraded to a larger tank.

I don't seem to have as much hair algae in the main tank, but I do still have some turf algae in there. I'm also growing Halimeda again.

jimsflies
06-18-2015, 07:07 PM
How do you deal with salt creep on an up-flow algae scrubber?

skuttduck
06-19-2015, 07:22 AM
How do you deal with salt creep on an up-flow algae scrubber?

For me, I don't. Mostly because the scrubber is submerged, and any parts that aren't are washed off in the sink during maintenance.

I'll work on getting a couple more pictures and show some of the algae that grows now.

I also get it on the glass of the sump now too.

jimsflies
06-19-2015, 07:59 AM
Yeah, I was thinking more about the salt creep that would be involved with an airstone submerged in saltwater. Seems like a good way to grow stalactites around one's tank/sump.

SantaMonicaHelp
06-19-2015, 05:48 PM
Salt creep doesn't occur until the bubbles come to the surface. So, you just have a box around the surface, it keeps the bubbles in :)

~SF

skuttduck
06-29-2015, 07:28 PM
Here is how the algae looks now with the newer screen and the red LED lights I got from Tom. 10811

SantaMonicaHelp
07-02-2015, 04:43 PM
Here is how the algae looks now with the newer screen and the red LED lights I got from Tom. 10811

Would you please upload a picture of the whole set up?

-NP

skuttduck
07-02-2015, 06:46 PM
Would you please upload a picture of the whole set up?

-NP

Here is how I have it setup. The screen is just held up on the glass with some old magnets. I have an airstone below, then the red LED lights. I have a plastic black plate behind the screen to help prevent algae growing in the sump, but I get some because of the light that leaks around.

SantaMonicaHelp
07-02-2015, 07:05 PM
Ah, the LEDs are burning the middle. If you can back them up, or put an extra sheet of screen over the light, it will help spread the light out.

skuttduck
03-03-2017, 02:19 PM
Figured I would resurrect this thread with something else kind of interesting. I don't hardly get any turf algae down there anymore. I still get some but nothing I can really harvest. I put a piece of live rock I got from Todd down in the sump and ever since I did that, the bristleworms feast on the turf algae.

It is not something I really mind all too much as I am not getting nuisance algae in the main tank. I am now back to running my metal halides since my panorama LED lights died.

SantaMonicaHelp
03-03-2017, 02:29 PM
If you'd like to get the scrubber growing again, post a pic of the growth.

Sir Patrick
03-04-2017, 01:27 AM
Cool thread....might try this...

skuttduck
03-04-2017, 08:54 AM
11949 This is what I have been growing. It is still bubbling, but I think all the bristleworms are eating it.

skuttduck
03-27-2017, 01:15 PM
I still don't seem to be growing turf algae like I used to. Could the bristleworms be eating the stuff, or it doesn't like to grow on the coraline algae that has since formed?

I soaked the air stone in vinegar to remove a bit of the growth too.

SantaMonicaHelp
03-27-2017, 01:48 PM
Coralline will repel algae, yes. But is that bubbler in the middle the only one? Coralline is usually from too weak light.

skuttduck
03-27-2017, 02:22 PM
Yes that is my only bubbler. I used to get a lot more growth. The red LED's seem to be doing good.

SantaMonicaHelp
03-27-2017, 03:03 PM
Add another bubbler or two. Or a long airline with cuts.

Tom@HaslettMI
03-27-2017, 06:06 PM
skuttduck,
Let me know if you need an air pump. I have several to choose from.

Tom

skuttduck
03-27-2017, 08:06 PM
skuttduck,
Let me know if you need an air pump. I have several to choose from.

Tom

I have another air stone and an aqualifter. I probably need to back the light up a bit which is hard to do there off the shelving that my sump is sitting on.

I have since re-arranged the airstone a bit and will see what this does.

Vivikos2
05-31-2017, 09:40 PM
Sounds great. return man 3 unblocked (http://qingzhiliao.com/return-man-3-the-season.html) I cannot wait to buy a new one.

SantaMonicaHelp
11-10-2021, 05:49 PM
Some success stories of upflow scrubbers that people built...

ReeferMat on the MASC site: "So I decided to build one of these [upflow scrubbers] today. It's huge because all I had was a 12 inch airstone, but I'm hoping that won't matter too much. It cost me less than $20 to build, so if it works that is the best bang for the buck I have ever seen in the war on algae! It has been up and running for 3 months now and I have to say my tank looks a lot better. Every time I clean it it grows a new type of algae, slime, turf, etc... and it grows fast. I would say I have seen a decline in nuisance algae in my tank, but to be honest that would be an understatement.... It has all but eradicated it. Every time I look at the scrubber I can't help but think that all that junk would be growing in my DT"

Owenreefin on the PNWMAS site: "The first two months of running this scrubber thing I was convinced I was going to rip it out for the algae growth was dismal, and I figured that my system just couldn't make it work. (I also have algae in my fuge) WELL I WAS WRONG. The thing started to really kick in. So much so that I just conducted my only water change in 2 months and I hardly think it was even necessary. I usually do a change of 30% every 2 weeks. My sand bed has cleared up big time too. With the water change I pulled out a good baseball sized amount of algae off the scrubber, couldn't be happier! I will always be running one of these. I will post pics of its growth next time I change water. Many months from now"

Bobba on the scrubber site: "Well, it's been almost 3 weeks with the [upflow scrubber], and 2 with my lone Turbo snail. I am happy to report that I have no Hair Algae left in the tank. No signs of any regrowth of what the snail has eaten either."

Clavius on the scrubber site:

"I've been running a 500 liter tank now for 5 years. It is very well stocked with SPS, LPS, softies, filter feeders and a modest amount of fish. The nutrients were being kept very low by a combination of a giant skimmer and the ZEOvit method. Off course, this results in very lightly coloured corals, which was my goal. Generally I'm very pleased with the colouring and growth of my corals, and please with my tank in general. But one battle I've always lost: brown algae covering my sandbed. I could not, for the life of me, find what was causing those algae. Not to mention solve it. I've tried many many things to solve it, but up untill recently, without luck.

Almost three weeks ago though, I installed a [upflow scrubber]. It was a little experiment that I wanted to do ever since I learned about algae scrubbers. Of course, with the ZEO-method, my nutrients already were really very low. I couldn't measure any NO3 or PO4 with my Salifert test kits. And I never bothered with more expensive kits; unmeasurable should be good enough. I wanted to see if the vitamins and amino acids that the algae scrubber produces would add anything to my reef. And, more importantly, if the algae would consume "something" that the brown algae on my sandbed require.

The result in my sandbed is staggering. After only 3 weeks, not a trace of the pesky brown algae is left! An extra benefit, that I didn't expect, is that my lightly coloured corals now all have noticably much more colour. Without getting darker. They seem to glow! I don't know if it is from the vitamins that are released in the water [from the algae scrubber]. Or maybe the ugly brown algae [on the sand] were also covering my corals and that I now finally seeing my uncovered corals! Strangely enough, the algae in my [scrubber] aren't light green, as you would expect with nutrient-poor tanks. But they're a mix of dark brown with red tints here and there. So, I have no idea why that is or how that works. But at this stage I'm just so happy that I really don't care."

SantaMonicaHelp
12-07-2021, 02:06 PM
Some more UAS upflow algae scrubber (tm) examples...

"Joey2525" on the CMF site...
http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasJoey2525OnCMF-4.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasJoey2525OnCMF-1.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasJoey2525OnCMF-2.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasJoey2525OnCMF-3.jpg




"Alexleblanc" on the scrubber site...
http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasAlexleblancOnAS-2.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasAlexleblancOnAS-1.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasAlexleblancOnAS-4.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasAlexleblancOnAS-5.jpg




"Disney" on the PH841 site...
http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasDisneyOnPh84-1.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasDisneyOnPh84-2.jpg



"Cdm2012" on the scrubber site...
http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasCdm2012onAS-3.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasCdm2012onAS-1.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasCdm2012onAS-2.jpg




"Bicyclebill" on the PNWMAS site
http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasBicyclebillOnPNWMAS-3.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasBicyclebillOnPNWMAS-2.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasBicyclebillOnPNWMAS-1.jpg




"Mbonus" on the scrubber site...
http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasMbonusOnAS-1.jpg




"UasIslakkie" on the UR site...
http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasIslakkieOnUR-1.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasIslakkieOnUR-2.jpg




"Alman" on the AH site...
http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasAlmanOnIAH-1.jpg




"JosephAcquario" on another site...
http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasJosephAcquario-2.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasJosephAcquario-1.jpg




"Ericsson" on the scrubber site...
http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasEricssonOnAS-2.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasEricssonOnAS-1.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasEricssonOnAS-3.jpg



"FotisGt" on the AZ site...
http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasFotisGtAquazone-1.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasFotisGtAquazone-2.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasFotisGtAquazone-3.jpg




"Colin" on the PNWMAS site...
http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasColinOnPNWMAS-1.jpg




"Accrod" on the PH841 site...
http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasAccrodOnPH84-1.jpg




"Atari" on the MC site...
http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasAtariOnMC-1.jpg




"Kaykay" on the SG site...
http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasKaykayOnSG-1.jpg




"Jameshopper" on the UR site...
http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasJameshopperOnUR-1.jpg

http://www.algaescrubber.net/UasJameshopperOnUR-2.jpg