checking in from macna

[mummra]

hey guys... i am here in houston now. sprung just got done and calfo is next. been a while since i came in. gotta go.

[lReef lKeeper]

how you like the presentations ??

[Whoyah]

Thanks for checking in. Let us all know how it goes. I really interested in Borneman presentation on salt comparisions.

[mummra]

that is the one i am waiting for as well (borneman). it has been great so far lots of great info.the photo session is starting so i got to go.

the salt study is in a few minutes...the one reason i am here.

we are starting now guys.

[mummra]

so here is the short deal. i will be going back to red sea salt as it fared best out of every one. there is no qualitative data yet but just through observations red sea kicked arse and I.O. did the worst. go figure.

i took detailed notes and tons of pics so i will catch this up when i get back. congrats to red sea and they have a R.O. formula that i am going to switch to as soon as my salt stash has been used.

[Reef_Angel]

It sure is thoughtful of you to let those of us know what goes on at MACNA! It will be great to see the pictures and such when you get back. The rest of your friends here at Captive Reefing sure appreciate the fact that you care enough to give us a peek into what you are seeing there! It's the next best thing to being there! Thanks again! ....Angel :angel1:

[lReef lKeeper]

hey mum, thanx a million for the info. looks like i am switching also,i was using I.O, but no more if they say it did the worst. i will want to see your notes when you get home if you dont mind !? thanx again buddy, it was like being there without the crowd and with all the comforts of home. lol

[marinefiend]

Ok now I am jealous

[mummra]

yeah i am thinking of switching back myself. i stopped using red sea as there was always undisolved product in the mix water that bothered me. the control tank did the very best and outperformed all the others ,it was natural sea water and red sea came the closest to the control tank. i have both computer and written notes as my puter battery gave out half way through, i do have all but one of the slide shots of the tanks and the progression over the tenth month period...very cool.

they also announced that the next one will be held in pittsburg...so if that is in anybodys local area please come check it out. i and the wifey have already signed up...i think it would be great to see a contingent from CR go and represent.it will be september 14,15 &16 2007 so maybe we could all try and plan ahead. i love this event and am going to attempt to make it every year.

at the banquet we sat with some really neat people but my time is limited so i will get into that later.

[lReef lKeeper]

great work man, i think Dakar amd Angel need to put you on the payroll !! lol

[jojo22]

Where do I sign up. Pittsburg is only about 2 hours from me!!!!!!! YYYYYYEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH BAAAAAAAABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lReef lKeeper]

i use to live in pittsburg, maybe i can find a friend to stay with for that weekend !!

[mummra]

here you go. sign up early and the whole show is only $75.00 a person. you only have till the end of the month for that deal.

http://www.macnapittsburgh.com/home.htm

[mummra]

on another note. do you think it's ok to post the presentation pics? i have no permission to do so. maybe i should contact eric first?

[Whoyah]

Probably a good idea to contact him. He may have a link with all of them on there all ready.

[dakar]

Presentation pics? Depends on the content, if they were general public type stuff there shouldn't be any problem, however if they were part of the actual presentation then obtaining permission nefore posting would be best... however a narrative of what information you gleaned would be great.

I have my own convictions about salt mix, and IO fell to the shortlist in a hurry... always tested for crap. Any mention of where Oceanic fell in the order presented in the inpromptu comparisons? Not that we'd ever try switching from it again, but more for curiosity's sake.

BTW I'm working on getting at least one pair of tickets for the one coming up in Chicago :)

[lReef lKeeper]

i talk to him again if you need me to Mummra !!

[mutts]

dakar whens the one is chicago? and do you have a web page link for it?

mummra, keep us updated. i am now glaring at the huge bucket of IO i just opened now by the way...

[mummra]

oceanic was some where in the middle. it was long to cycle but started to turn around towards the end. lots of mortalities though. i do believe it had the most zoanthid growth.

[dakar]

dakar whens the one is chicago? and do you have a web page link for it?

I've got it stashed in my email somewhere, I'll post it later this evening.


oceanic was some where in the middle. it was long to cycle but started to turn around towards the end. lots of mortalities though. i do believe it had the most zoanthid growth.

Thanks for the info.... in some ways that makes sense given the rate of zonthid growth we saw in Angel's Zoa farm she had going, and is slowly rebuilding.

[seahorsedreams]

The one is Chicago is IMAC. You can see the info HERE (http://www.theimac.org/) and is taking place on June 1,2 & 3.

I'll be going in 2007.

[dakar]

That's the one, I had the names mixed up.... Guess I should really get that banner posted.

[lReef lKeeper]

i am talking to Eric right now and asked for permission to post them, mummra !! i will post his reply here so there is no confusion. i asked for permission to post pics AND notes !!

[lReef lKeeper]

well here is the reply from Eric ...

Yes, he has my permission but with the caveat that a link be posted to the thread here in my forum in that I have not yet done the statistics to determine which if any salts truly stand out for better or worse. The only information I presented was qualitative, and I wouldn't go running out and changing salts quite yet, especially if the tank seems fine under current use. I will be writing much much more about this as real results come in.


______________________
Eric Borneman

"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." George W. Bush

[mummra]

ok i will download the pics from my camera tonight. i posted on his forum at marine depot for him to contact me.

[lReef lKeeper]

it really pays to KNOW people huh ??

[mummra]

ok so eric has said that he will be making the slide presentation available some time after this week end. checking through my pics you can not tell which tanks are which and they seem fuzzy (i lost my slr type to a malfuntion and only had a hand held). i would rather wait till eric makes it available so we can see the whole thing clearly and in it's completed form (i missed like two or three slides as they were going really fast). thoughts?

it does pay to know some one...maybe you could get him to send you a copy faster so we could all see it sooner (as my pics turned out like shhhh) that would be awesome.

the wife and i are also thinking of splitting our vacation so we could go to both IMAC and MACNA. who all her will be attending either event?

[mutts]

i hope to be

[seahorsedreams]

I'm attending. I can't wait to go and would like to meet some of y'all. Another forum I'm a member of have been known for their great parties!

[Reef_Angel]

I think you are right about having someone from CR there. Such a smart fella we have as a member! I'd love to go to something like that. Please HINT to my husband DAKAR that his wife is so deserving of a nice vacation like that, and how surprised she'd be if he took her!! lol Our Anniversary (8 Years) is coming up November 21st. It would be so perfect! Everyone, please nag and hound the man.

[seahorsedreams]

DAKAR, if you bring your wife to IMAC I bet I can convince her to dress up in a cute pirates outfit for you (to come to a seahorse pirate party..... you know you'd love it).

[Reef_Angel]

It may not be a pirates outfit, cause I'm not that skimpy unfortunately. I will however dress up as the medieval wench that the pirates want to capture, and Dakar can be my pirate! hehehe... That could be fun!

[seahorsedreams]

He's picturing it. He's smiling. You're coming to IMAC!

[Reef_Angel]

A girl can dream huh? lol:p

[jojo22]

I will be trying to attend MACNA '07

[carpenterwrasse]

I am from Pittsburgh and to all that has forgotten the h at the end that hurt...I joined to local club that will be hosting macna...I will be happy to help with any info if i can
George

[mummra]

how about telling us what else there is to do in your home town. we checked out a bunch of what houston had to offer.

[mummra]

ok guys here are the marsh pics of the study. these are way better than the pics i took of the slides. here is a key to what salt is what letter.

A Coralife
B Reef Crystals
C HW Marine Mix
D Crystal sea
E Tropic Marin
F Red sea
G Kent
H Oceanic
J Instant Ocean
K Natural sea water - control

and here is the link to the pics.

http://www.marshreef.com/modules.php?set_albumName=Salt-Study&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php&page=1

[lReef lKeeper]

sweet MUM, for now my choice would have to be ... tank "F". but we will see how that changes when the results come out !!

[mummra]

true that as we can not forget that no data has been studied yet and all this talk is subject to the actual data being presented.

[carpenterwrasse]

where do you want me to start....night life or day life....
Day time we have an awesome veiw from mt. washington of the city...ride to inclines to get there. the Pittsburgh zoo and aquarium....the waters edge exhibit will be opened by then thanks to my union brothers...the national aviary has hundreds of birds you can see.Take a trip on the ducky tours its an ampibious car that travels on a tour through the city streets and then on the rivers...the carnegie museum of natural history has some amazing things in it...the john heinz history museum andy warhol museum.and the science center has several floors of fun and some fish things also.pnc park where the pirates play or try to at least. and for the night owls there are sevral clubs on the board walk that are fun...but I can not tell you all of the fun here just look me up and we can hang out and i'll be glad to show you some Pittsburgh hospitallity..
George

[Reef_Angel]

Wow George... I think I should just pack up and plan on coming with such a fantastic tour guide!

[carpenterwrasse]

I forgot some things also....too tired last night

[lReef lKeeper]

you forgot the MAIN thing buddy, THE PITTSBURGH STEELERS !!!! tour of the richest little town of SEWICKLY, they have some nice antique shops there. (i use to live there, on Ohio River Blvd.) !! but dont drive a car with tinted windows around there, bad cops !! lol
BTW ... "the incline" is SWEEEEEET at night !!

[carpenterwrasse]

anyone comeing to the burg feel free to look me up I will be glad to give you a tour of the place.

[mummra]

nice thanx for the offer...i might hold you to that. lol

[carpenterwrasse]

no problem with me!!!!

[lReef lKeeper]

i might hold you to that too, but not for a guide ... just to hang out !!

[carpenterwrasse]

Friends are always welcome at my door.
George