400 GALLON TAKE 2!!!!!

[graphixx]

Allright, I decided I would do a seperate thread since the last one hold terrible memories for me and was getting very very long!!!
This thread will be a very very welcomed breath of fresh air!! Well those of you who didnt follow the last terrible fiasco that happened with this behemoth. Here is the outcome.
This tank is now going to be an in wall tank that will be visible from from both sides. The side in the living will be a flush wall it will be framed so it in essence looks like a picture hanging.
The other side of the tank will be in my den/frag room. this tank will look like a free standing tank. I am going to modify the current stand and canopy so it will be also viewable from this side as well. So its like 2 tanks in one!!!!
This little project will kick off this wednesday. PROJECT 1: reinforce the floor underneath the tank. This should be fairly easy. this part of the floor is very easy to get to. PROJECT 2: clean out the closet on the den side and start the demolition. I hope to get the wall torn down on this side and the hole cut for the tank.
Will be taking pics as the project rolls on. I think this should take only a few weeks to accomplish. I am giving myself a month to get it done so I dont run into any time constraints on this.
WISH ME LUCK....................

[seahorsedreams]

You just wanted to over shadow my Big Ole 40 gallon project...LOL.

Can't wait to see how it goes!

[graphixx]

LOL. I saw your thread and had to do a double take. I cant wait to see your tank up and running.

[perpetual98]

That's why I'm waiting before I bust out my 40G project. ;) Let the excitement from all of your new tanks settle so that I can snag some attention. lol

[graphixx]

NNNOOOOO you should start your now too!!! There are a lot of new tanks that the members are putting up right now its exciting!!! Renee's, yours, Fatmans, JoJo's, mine (am I missing anybody) this is awesome!!!

[perpetual98]

I kinda have my thread started in the Plumbing Ideas thread that I have posted in the Tanks section. Not much interest in that thread so far. I pick up the tank on Wednesday after work. I've also got 45mm and 40mm diamond hole saws coming, so we'll see if I can get my 7 holes drilled without destroying everything. Not much to photograph right now. The stand should be done in the next week or so.

[graphixx]

and this is going on your desk at work correct??? Now that is a paper weight!!!! that will be awesome!!! or is it going in your office. not much sense doing a stand if its going on the desk

[perpetual98]

You answered your own question...

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[spsreefer]

any picture updates?

[jojo22]

Hey Greg word to the wise don't plan on haveing the hole cut by 5:00.....LOL
Let me know if I can help in any way.

[graphixx]

JOE, You just had to bring that up didnt you buddy!!! Naw no worries. my main task is to get the floor done. if I get to the wall fine if not then I will get it another day. Just gonna take it slow and easy. Like i said I have a couple months to get it done.
No pics yet. I will take some pics tonight of the flooring.

[jojo22]

better luck with this go round bud!

[lReef lKeeper]

Greg, you know my phone numbers if you need any advise on anything. i will be pre-occupied this saturday, but after the meeting i will return your calls (note the plural form).

[Sweetpea]

Can't wait to see the pics in progress... Don't forget us... we're INSATIABLE when it comes to stuff like this!!! ;)

[graphixx]

:scubapics: I will keep all you guys posted!!!

[dakar]

Good news for a change is always great.... and a reason to break out the Sawzall makes it even better :)

[Reptoreef]

Glad you had a change of heart... $$$ very well spent and saved.

[MedicMike]

Mmmmmmmmmmm saws all!!! Hope your not handy like Tim the Tool man! But good luck my friend!

[mutts]

sawzalls are very fun... mahaha... sorry...

good luck on the second take!

[graphixx]

you got that right!!! I am trying to talk my wife into buying me this nice cordless dewalt package at Lowes, cordless impact drill,sawzall,flashlight,dustbuster, jig saw. sure will be nice!!!!

[mutts]

that sounds really fun... it should be able to tear though a wall in no time

[graphixx]

UPDATE!!!! Well today I spent with the spiders underneath my house reinforcing the floor. I think I but in 10-12 braces from the joists to the cement floor. Does that sound sufficient?????? I feel a lot better about this now. I didnt take pics cause the light was bad and didnt turn out good. but I might start on the cut out of the wall today not sure. but that I will get pics of!!!!

[lReef lKeeper]

that sounds about right. how long is the tank ?? i would put a support brace about every 12" - 16" of the length and depth of the tank. or at least on EVERY floor joist to the concrete below. i have a feeling that is what you did !!

[graphixx]

yeah that is pretty much what I did. I reinforced every joist. and then I went one more joist out from the tank and reinforced that as well. I figure I dont think I could OVERDO the reinforcement. I used 2x4's so they should hold pretty well.

[lReef lKeeper]

if you have any left, you could always double them up. but i think you will be fine with what you have done. to bad the pics didnt turn out, cuz i would like to see the progress you made today.

BTW ... watch out for the dreaded Brown Recluse spider, it will mess your world up !! they tend to hide in dark, damp places (under houses) !!

[graphixx]

I dont know about recluse but there were a TON of black widows. I had 2 drop on me and FREAKED ME OUT!!!!! As far as pics its not much to look at just a bunch of 2x4's inbetween joists and cement floor. but I sure feel a lot better about it now.

[graphixx]

this is what I want the finished product to look like on the livingroom side of the wall........

[jojo22]

LOL.... I can just picture you doing the spider dance under the house!!! Glad nothing got ya buddy!!

[RHAPALA]

ONLY THING I COULD ADD ABOUT YER REINFORCING JOB IS 2X4'S ARE GOOD BUT 2 X 6 AND 2X 10S ARE EVEN BETTER ... BUT AS FAR AS THE 2X4'S DOING THE JOB SHOULD WORK OUT JUST FINE :)

[lReef lKeeper]

Greg, if you want it to sit back like that, give me a call. you can not sit the tank flush with the wall (you probably figured that). it would be easier to tell (describe) what to do over the phone. oh, n/m i will call you !!

[perpetual98]

Why can't you sit the tank flush with the wall provided you build the stand correctly?

[graphixx]

I could have it sit with the wall but I think I kinda like this look a little better. and I just as soon build the stand so the entire tank sits on the stand. will make me feel a lot better. I am gonna start building the stand today. The tank will be perfectly centered on the wall top to bottom, side to side. it an 8'high from floor to ceiling (sp) and 10' width. so it should look pretty good I think.

[jojo22]

Measure twice cut once, NOT the other way around!...LOL We want pics.

[perpetual98]

Measure? What's this term you refer to? I'm not familiar with it.

[lReef lKeeper]

Eric, in that pic ... the tank is about 3 1/2" backset (about the width of a 2x4). if you set if flush with the wall the tank would not have that small offset to it, but would be flush with the wall. you would have to cut the studs 1 1/2" shorter than the drywall, then box in all the studs across the top and bottom with a 2x4. then build the stand 1 1/2" shoeter than the top of the plate (2x4 that you used to box in the studs) to get the look he is going for.

[perpetual98]

I understand how to do it both ways, I was just wondering why you said he couldn't do it flush is all. :)

[lReef lKeeper]

oh, my bad buddy !! calm down a little bit. the main thing is DON'T GET EXCITED !!

i said that cuz he was going for another look (just to clarify).

[perpetual98]

Don't make me come down there and go poll worker on you! :)

[lReef lKeeper]

bring it little man !! dont make me swell up on you !! lol :naka:

[seahorsedreams]

That's a great looking tank....

And he also has the rare Red Sea Mag-float fish.

[graphixx]

Well tonight when I get home from the office I am gonna try and get the hole cut out of the wall. Or at least get the chalk line on it. But should not take that long to just get the rough cut out. I need to get the hole cut pretty quick. we are getting carpet put in here the next couple of weeks and I want the cutting done before the new carpet goes in. :D

[lReef lKeeper]

DANG, moneybags !! new carpet, new tank, and new frag tanks !! i have to be in the wrong line of work !!

Renee, wonder if that red sea mag float is WC or TR !? IMO, TR seem to fair better.

[graphixx]

that is the beauty of having a banker as a good friend, "creative financing" she hooked us up on a re-fi deal. got our house interest locked in with a little consolidation and the best of all it saves up 450.00 a month!!!!!!

[lReef lKeeper]

sweeet ... i gotta buy a house so i can do that !!

[graphixx]

this deal was beautiful. I paid off my 4-wheeler, radioshack card, and 2 loans and locked my house in at 6%. those 5 bills ran me 1000.00 a month but since this little dealy-0 my payment on this consolidation re-fi is now $523.00 a month. you gotta love that baby!!!!!

[lReef lKeeper]

dude. i pay more than that in RENT !!

[seahorsedreams]

Good Lord! I paid 2100.00 a month for a 2 bedroom apartment!!

[graphixx]

hehehe, that is the beauty of Idaho. My house is 1600 sqft. 3 bed, 2 familyrooms. my main familyroom is 265 sq ft. kitchen, dining room, huge bathroom. 7000 sqft of yard!!!! covered deck yeah we really really got lucky on this house!!!!

[lReef lKeeper]

can we move in with ya ?? lol j/k ... i could NOT live in Idaho !!

[graphixx]

seriously why couldnt you???? where I live I am literally an hour away from ANYTHING...... Big City (Boise) some of the best skiing in the world, best fishing in the world,best hunting in the world, the #1 destination for B.A.S.E. jumping is 5 minutes away from my house. its beautifull

[lReef lKeeper]

an hour drive to the city !? holy crap !! i can drive a total of 5 minutes and be in downtown Louisville !! i swear i don't know how people live in the boonies !!

[seahorsedreams]

Well, I live in LA .... which is far from the boonies and it takes me an hour to get down the street!

Is you nearest LFS an hour away?

If it wasn't for the kids I would NOT be living where I do. The smallest house here costs 600,000.00... no freaking joke.

[Reptoreef]

The BEST skiing in the world just happens to be right here in UTAH pal... who ya tryin to kid Greg?

[jojo22]

I don't know if I could live in the boonies but for a tank as big as gregs I'D TRY!!!

[Sea~Horse~Whisperer]

Renee.....I hear ya about the housing in LA. 15 yrs. ago I lived there. We paid 875.00 a month for a roach infested apt. I moved quickly. I had never seen a cockroach till I moved there. I haven't seen one since I moved either. Remember....the raisins in the raisen bran do not move and everything goes into tupperware and gets stored in the frige.
I get the willies just thinkin about it. I have a HUGE house in central WI now and my morg. pmt is only 550.00. Couldn't rent a garage for that in LA.

[graphixx]

ALLRIGHT!!!! today is demolition day!!! when I get home I am gonna start taking out the wall!!!! I have everything measured and took a chalk line to it!!! I knocked a little hole out to see what I am looking at and seems pretty easy. I will take some pics today when I get started. I am also gonna try and get the hole framed in and maybe just maybe get the molding done but no worries if I dont, I have plenty of time.

[perpetual98]

Just checked with Vegas. The line on your getting that done today isn't looking good. The odds of you making an unexpected trip to Home Depot is unnervingly high. :)

[graphixx]

Well tonight I started tearing down the wall. thought it would be a breeze. usually a wall consists of sheet rock on both sides right???? NOT THIS WALL, well come to find out this used to be the back wall of the house before the addition. so the clowns that added on just sheet rocked over the back of the house. so I get the sheet rock off and there is WOOD SIDING!!!! so this took a little longer than expected. I will get the rest of it done tomorrow and framed in!!! here are some pics of the mess!!!

[graphixx]

HHHEEERRREEESSSSS GGREEGGGGIIIEEEE!!!!!!!!

[Sea~Horse~Whisperer]

That last pic should be your new avatar, lol. Good luck with the rest of the project.

[Whoyah]

You got to love old houses when you remodel. Was there a concrete footing under that wall when you crawled under the house??? Just curious.

[lReef lKeeper]

OOOOHH buddy, i am LMAO at you right now. if its not one thing its another. i do agree withAngie though, it should be your avatar.

[jojo22]

That last pic should be your new avatar, lol. Good luck with the rest of the project.

I agree!

[graphixx]

shad, yeah its all concrete under there!!! so the braces have something solid to rest on!!! that makes me feel better!!!

[dakar]

What's up with that lil' wussie hammer in the first pic? Don't you own any REAL tools?

Mark out the hole and grab the sawzall and let'r rip, she'd have let you know right quick if there were any electric wires in the wall! hee hee

[graphixx]

I cant find my hand sledge (need to clean shed out) but the sawszall comes tonight when I get home!!! I had to buy blades today. but should be done and framed by tonight!!! I will try and get the frame molding around it tonight as well. pics to come

[perpetual98]

Who are you kidding Greg? That's your wife's hammer and you were watching football while she was working. :)

[graphixx]

OH MAN IN A PERFECT WORLD!!!!! Well in a perfect world she would be wearing a t-shirt and cut off jeans and a hard hat with a tool belt!!!!! TTTHHHEEENNNNN I would be on the couch drinking a malted beverage!!!

[lReef lKeeper]

still waiting on those pics buddy.

[graphixx]

uuuuhhh you wont get a pic of that buddy, that is for me only!!!

[lReef lKeeper]

i was talking about the WALL !! i was gonna write something about that, but figured you might not like it to much.

[graphixx]

you saw the pics of the wall you DINGBAT!!! I will post some more tonight when I get home and dive back in :D I had to pick up blades for the recip saw. but will finish the cutting and then try and get it framed in tonight.

[jojo22]

Hey Greag my kids want their little tykes hammer back. You couldn't hang a picture with that thing...LOL I couldn't let it be.

[graphixx]

ha ha ha you suckers are tooo funny!!!!! that is it, I am finding my sledge!!!!!!

[jojo22]

Thought that might get you goin, don't forget to take pics.

[Sweetpea]

I too vote that "Heeeere's Greeeeeg" photo should be your new avatar... what a fabulous pic!!! :-D

[graphixx]

HHHEEERREEEESSSS GGREEEGGIE!!!!! THERE ARE YOU ALL HAPPY NOW!!!! :D

[jojo22]

Why yes we are. Thank you for asking!

[graphixx]

aaahhh good I'll sleep better now knowing you guys are happy :violent3:

[graphixx]

Well got all of the studs out and the rough cut done. Now I have a question. how do I get it flat enough on perimeter to frame it in with 2x4's????? its uneven from cutting it out with the sawzall???? need some help here.

[RHAPALA]

LOOK AT THE FUN YER HAVING

[jojo22]

WOW did you wear a blindfold to cut that??? Just kiddin I hope the tricks I told you in chat help!

[perpetual98]

Umm, Greg, I hate to tell you this, but there's a hole in your wall.

[dakar]

Dude!!! we are revoking your sawzall operating license! that's worse than my hack job on the walltank! hahaha Gonna have some serious patching up to do there later now...

Easiest way to get things level and plumb now would be to remove enough drywall on one side of the wall so you can trim the existing studs to get a 2x4 to sit LEVEL across all the supporting studs in the wall (with that big of a tank I'd shoot for no more than 1/8" over 4'. Maybe the wifey has a laser level you can borrow??? Then nail gun that sucker in place and if you feel the need a couple L brackets, just so it can't move... once you've got one side of the 'box' level getting the side plumb should be a snap with a framing square.

Couldn't tall from the pics if you started your 'hole' using a stud on either side... if not you'll likely want to get some in place there for lateral support later.

[graphixx]

I KNOW I KNOW its not pretty but I figure the molding that will frame the hole will hide alot of the "mess". The other side of the wall (den side) I figured Iwould score the sheet back a couple of inches to expose the studs, cut them level and that should work for the framing (am I on the right idea??) and then patch that side. I got some white laminate that will go over the framing to give a nice finished look. I laid in bed allnight last night playing out how I would be able to get the framing nice and level. I am by NOOOOO means a carpenter or a handy man (nor have I ever claimed to be) but I am getting a little better. Shad and Joe gave me some good tips last night in the chat (thanks guys). So I will try to get that finished tonight when I get home. I good the entire day off tomorrow to hopefully get this project a little farther along. I would like to get the tank moved in and set Sunday so I think that should give me plenty of time. Then I can spend a few days getting her slowly filled and aquascpaed. Any input suggestions are still more than welcomed. Thank you guys for all your help on this project/nightmare but it is slowly getting funner.
I will be glad when I can just sit in front of it and sip a nice single malted scotch and watch the fishies!!!!!

[jojo22]

I think that wood trim painted white will give you a nicer and less "getto" look. YEAH go ask your wife where the getto comment came from. She should really get online and give us ammo like that more often.

[perpetual98]

I laid in bed allnight last night playing

We won't tell your wife.... ;)

[jojo22]

Yeah and what ""good" is the entire day since you "got" it off, what ya planing to get dune buddy???

[lReef lKeeper]

why does one side of the wall look like it has a MUCH cleaner cut than the other side ?? we need to teach you how to use some power tools, dont we ?!

[graphixx]

allright you DINKS keep on track!!! you 3 knuckleheads are the kings of useless posts QUICK HIJACKING MY THREAD!!!!
Tonight I will get all the studs level and try and get the framing done if not tonight I have all day tomorrow to just take it slown and get it done. it is kinda nice not having any time constraints but its killing me taking sooo long. but its hard, the ony time I have had to work on this is when I get home from work and that only leaves a couple hours a night tops. so a couple of days off sure will help.

[jojo22]

Hey at least he didn't just go cutting into a load bearing wall...LOL I can see his wife on the news now... "I don't know how the knife flew all the way from the kitcen, it must have been a freak accident" *as she wipes he prints clean*

Like I said I will be home in brobably 3.5 hours feel free to call. PM me if you need my number again.

[dakar]

Maybe a helpful hint for a little further down the road... when you set up to trim in the front cut your molding so that it overhangs the drywall a bit (maybe 1/4" - 1/2" depending in the width of your molding). Should help give the whole thing a smoother look... kind like I did on the wall tank...
http://www.captivereefing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1269&stc=1&d=1141240630


And IMO, NOTHING looks better than raw oak and tung oil, but with SW I'd stick with an oil based uerethayne.... you should even seal up the rough drywall edges with it to avoid the little crumblies in your tank. I went a little crazy and sealed all the studs and everything too...

[perpetual98]

I went a little crazy

Ahhh, that explains it. :D

[dakar]

Also explains that it WAS a load bearing wall too! hee hee But I only cut out 3 studs.

[lReef lKeeper]

i wonder if that wall will eventually SAG ??!!

[jojo22]

I think that would depend on where the hole is and just how much weight it is being use to support.

[graphixx]

Well today I got most of the work done. all I am waiting for now is a little mud to dry and then gonna sand it down to get it smooth and slap some paint on it. Tomorrow I will start on the stand. I am hoping to get the tank moved into the house and put in place hopefully friday or if not sunday for sure. Just taking it nice and slow!!!!!!! But what do you guys think. Also I want to thank everyone for the help on this sucker!!!!!

[graphixx]

and yes the 3rd picture you can see that I have to cut out some of the wall on the other side to get the tank in. that comes down tomorrow!!!!!

[jojo22]

LOOKS GOOD!!! Get that wall down and you should be ready to go!!!!!!!

BTW When it's all set up can I come pratice my snorkleing???

[graphixx]

Joe, thanks buddy I really appreciate it. thanks for all the help you gave me too buddy. and yeah anytime you want come on over. I have plenty of room. Actually that goes for anyone on the board. I know I will be hosting Tyler (dirt4dinner) in january........ CANT WAIT

[jojo22]

COOL I GET TO SNORKLE!!!!!!! LOL

[lReef lKeeper]

i was wondering where he (tyler) has been, everything OK with him ?? haven't seen him around for a while (not like he use to be anyway).

[graphixx]

oh yeah Tyler is great, i talk to him every day on the phone. he is kicking butt with his new job. I will tell him you said hello

[jojo22]

ME TOO!!!

[Reptoreef]

Looks good!!!

[Whoyah]

Thats looking really nice.

[MedicMike]

Wow Grego lookin good buddy i gotta admit i was a lil scared when i saw the first hole pics.. But thats what you get when you drink a six pack and play with a sawz all ( dont lie either i know ya better than that :) ) But anyway lookin nice and i'll be over with jo to take a dip. I'm sure all the nasties on my butt could start the cycle for ya :) !

[jojo22]

I'M NOT GETTIN IN IF MIKE DOES THAT LAST STATEMENT IS JUST SCARY!!!!!!! WATCH OUT FOR THE BROWN WATER!!!!

[graphixx]

UPDATE: Its really starting to come around. just waiting for a little drying on some mud, had to do a little smoothing and then sprayed some texture on the wall to match up and then the wife will paint everything this afternoon while I build the stand. I am hoping to have the tank in the house this sunday!!!!! but if I dont then no problems. I have plenty of time.
OOOHHHHH I FORGOT!!!! I got a couple of critters yesterday to. a 2 spot goby about an inch long (cuter than heck) and a lettuce nudi (cooler than heck) I would take pics but I cant find either of them they are sooo small.

[jojo22]

SWEET!!!!!!!!

[perpetual98]

You actually WAIT for stuff to dry? :) You're a better man than I...

[graphixx]

yeah that is harder than heck!!!!!! the living room side of it is painted. I will get some pics up tonight I ran out of screws and need to run to lowes to get some more to finish the stand. but it is looking really really nice.

[graphixx]

Hey gang, well the living room side of the wall is DONE!!! the Den side of the wall gets one more coat of paint and its done. I cut the closet walls out wider to fit the tank on the den side and framed an mudded in. will sand and paint that in the next day or 2 and then put new molding on that. I will be putting plywood sides and front on the stand also and get the doors all done and get that painted. if all goes well I would like to have everything done and then tank set by Tuesday. and then spend at least 3 days getting it slowly filled and aquascaped. I am taking nothing but time. I need to figure out what I am gonna do about the lighting. I think I will build a type of frame and then hang them over the tank. not sure about that yet. but I will get some pics up in the next day or 2.

[dakar]

Here's a suggestion for you... borrowing from our *future* plans for the next big tank.... imagine a canopy that lifts straight up and down (to adjust the lighting height or allow more room for getting into the tank).

Think about this.... two way wall switch, a small 1/4 horse motor with a reduction gear box cabled to the panel holding the lamps running on some vertical casters/runners. No rocket science involed, but IMO saweeeeet.

[perpetual98]

I don't think you'd even need a 1/4 horse motor for that. Especially if it was geared down. I think my garage door opener is a 1/4 horse. lol

[graphixx]

Allright, here are some new pics. the first 2 are of the stand just about done. I added a few more supports and sunday I will put on the plywood and cut the drawers and slap some molding on it. the 3rd pic is of the finished living room side. the last pic is of the den side where I widened the what used to be closet I will get it finished up here in the next day or 2. but slowly its coming around, I cannot say how nice it is to just kinda take your time at this.
I also have some AWESOME ideas on some aquascaping that I am gonna do but I will just tease you right now. not at that point in the game yet!!!

[jojo22]

LOOKIN' SWEET BUDDY!!!!!!!

[Reptoreef]

Oh, **** yea!!! That's just what I envision on my own set up.

[lReef lKeeper]

sweeeeet, see there buddy ... you didn't even need all of us to come up and help !! not as hard as it looks, huh ?!

[graphixx]

I tell you what, I was sure second guessing myself in the beginning but I have had a BLAST the whole time. I am very suprised and impressed with myself on this little project. I cannot wait to get the tank set. I cant wait to show you guys my little aquascape suprise I am gonna do!!!!!

[lReef lKeeper]

dude, you are doing one **** of a job there. i can say that i am impressed with your skills. usually, if you take the time to think it out first ... it is a lot easier to do. but, if you needed help, i would have been there in a heartbeat. in fact i ha to run up to Indiana to look at a wall that is getting a tank put in it soon. hope it goes as smooth as yours did.

[Whoyah]

Looking awesome. She is going to look sweet when it is all done. On the light thing, I saw someone using one of this

Amazon.com: Racor PBH-1R Ceiling-Mounted Bike Lift: Home Improvement

to lift their lights up and down. Just thought I would throw that idea in the hat.

[hummer]

you pic's look great keep us posted lots of pic's and thanks for the chat it and you where grreat i learned soooooooooooooooo much thanks again!!!!!!!

[graphixx]

Bob, no problem buddy, like I said last night on the phone... you got my # any questions you have just give me a buzz.

[carpenterwrasse]

Greg,
Is Lyndee ready to commit you yet....Mine would have the home improvement theme song playing the whole time I was working.
George

[Sweetpea]

Lyndee is a DOLL!!! She'll stand by her man!!! :)

[jojo22]

I wish my wife would let me knock holes in the walls...but we rent!!! When we buy a house I'll just wait till she goes to work. Then out comes the saw!!!!!!

[Sweetpea]

OMGOSH!!! I wish my hubby would do something so dramatic... then I'd have something to hold over him... ;)

[graphixx]

I have the best wife in the world!!! It was her idea to to the wall!!! and what am I gonna do say no???? UUUHHH I THINK NOT!!!

[Sweetpea]

what am I gonna do say no????
That would just be silly! ;)

[graphixx]

UPDATE!! Well this aint much about the construction but I am gonna try and get the LR racks built today. I need to do this soon since they take 5 days to cure. This is a project that I am very very excited about. I have been researching this for the past week and have found some very very neat ideas and have incorporated a few of them into this design. These will both work as racks for the rocks and also a home for cryptic sponges and pods!!!! I will photo the whole process.

[Sea~Horse~Whisperer]

Graphixx...it's that way in my house too. I am the one asking my hubby to knock out walls and reinforce floors for my tanks. I can't remember the last time he got to build anything that wasn't fish related. He's a good guy about it though.

The lights on my 125 were on rollers and tracks. I could raise and lower them for cleaning or maint. It was NICE. I will have to look for the old post I had of the 125g in wall tank. It was great fun.

Angie

[carpenterwrasse]

hey jojo there are some nice housesm here in the burgh.....
If my wife wasn't insulting me I would think she was switched with an alien

[jojo22]

I would love to move to PA and get rid of the BSL's I have to deal with now, but the wife and I both attend school here. Plus the browns rule so the burgh is out. Pa ok Burgh NO NO!!

[graphixx]

Allright, today was a pretty good day. I pretty much got everything done except setting the tank. I got the stand 99% finished, just molding around the doors. Lyndee is painting it. Got the molding done around the den side and mudded and almost all sanded. SSOOOOOO, tomorrow the stand will be finished along with the molding on the den side and the stand will be set tomorrow. And then thursday the tank will be in the house and set!!!!! I would of like to have gotten it done today but it didnt so OH WELL. No hurries just taking my time and having fun. Here are some pics of the den side of the room. And me and my little neice, she was my helper today!!!

[RHAPALA]

OH YEAH MAN ITS A COMMING ALONG NICELY

[Iconz]

Can I get a pic of your doors? I'm going to be installing mine on my stand by this weekend and I'm curious how you've done your's!

-JD

[Sweetpea]

Greg? Child labor? What WERE you thinking? I should report you to ... umm, somebody! Unless, of course you paid her well... what are the going rates for adorable little girls these days? ;)

Seriously, I really do love how kids are so eager to help out with atypical stuff. My kids are near impossible to get to do their chores, yet they will be their great-grandmother's gopher (you know- go for this, go for that!) for next to nothing. My son struck up a deal with my grandmother for - get this - a dollar a WEEK! LOL! :)

[hummer]

it coming alog nicely keep up the good work

[graphixx]

hhhhaaaaaaa!!!!! Guess what???? aaahhh yeah thats right that sucker is sitting on the stand. and I dont remember who I talked to last night and said I would have it in by 2:00 well whoever it was IT WAS IN BY 1:30!!!!! i am soooo relieved. I will get the pics up but right now I am trying to get everything squared away so kinda in a groove right now. will get the pics up tonight. Man I think this is gonna look purdy!!!! OH YEAH AND I BROKE MY THUMB IN THE PROCESS!!!! But its all about sacrifice!!!

[Iconz]

OH sh....! ouch on the thumb! Grats on getting it in! I can't wait to see it!

[graphixx]

thanks buddy I appreciate it!!! yeah the thumb is a little tender!!!! its a little difficult to pick stuff up with the right hand. but its not that bad. I will heal. man its gonna take forever to fill this sucker. I might go to a ecowater and see if they have RODI water in bulk. but then again, I can get all the plumbing ran while its filling

[graphixx]

ooorrrrrr, here is a question, I plan on cycling this tank for at least a couple of weeks (just to be safe) what if I did half tap water and half RODI water do you think that would be bad???? my tds on my tap water is 220. which is pretty good and then just do big water changes with RODI as the tank cycles out????

[lReef lKeeper]

so you don't remember talking to me last night on the phone ??!! dang man, i thought we were tighter than that. ok, i see how it is now !!

BTW ... where are the PICS ??

[jojo22]

I think that plan with the water would be fine.

[graphixx]

Bobby, man yesterday was such a long day I could of talked to santa clause and forgot. Pics are coming

[lReef lKeeper]

then here is another reminder ...

DONT FORGET ABOUT MY X-MAS PRESENT TO MYSELF !! THE BLUECHIN TRIGGER !!

[graphixx]

ALLRIGHT!!! Here are the pics of the monster on the stand. I have to put the face of the stand on. right now its half full. I want it to set for a day to stuff can settle. but sooo far soooo good.

[jojo22]

Lookin nice Greg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[graphixx]

Well not much to report. I got the sump in under the tank and got the face of the stand done. gonna wait till the plumbing is done under the tank before i put the face on. I am going to put the plywood and foam under the tank sunday (the only day I could get someone to help lift it) and then start filling the sucker up. And then I will fill it with sand and water and the base rock and a little LR, I will let that run for about a week and then the rest of the LR and let that run a week. And then I will add the rest of the LR that has corals on it along with the rest of the corals. Let that run a day and then slowly add the fish in. I am going to use the existing canopy it came with. I am just gonna have to mod it a little and then repaint it so it matches the stand. this will give it a nice clean look on the den/fragroom side of the tank. I will be glad when I can sit back and enjoy the tank. But like I said its nice not being on a time crunch. But then again i wish this was done amonth ago.

[hummer]

verry cool looks goog dose it look smaller now ru thinking d*m shoulda went bigger yet ...haha lol ...wish ihad a place t could do that in looks awsome

[hummer]

(sp) goog=good i hate typing im sooooooooooooooo bad lol

[Sparky]

looks great Greg! that thing must be a bear to move! cant wait see that puppy up and running!

[graphixx]

it is a pain in the rear to move. but literally the only thing I need to do is just pick it up and slide the plywood and foam under it and set it down. so that should be a fairly easy task (knock on wood) but its getting there.

[hummer]

why the foam and should all tanks have it?

[Whoyah]

The foam even out the pressure points from the frame on to the tank. Some thing like a screw head from the frame that sticks up can cause a pressure point which could lead to a crack in the tank, which is very bad news. Foam is probably a good idea on large tank that has a flat bottom and no rim.

[jojo22]

Foam is also used under the stand of large tanks because it will help the tank somewhat level it's self out.

[graphixx]

Well FINALLY I have the plywood with the foam under the tank and she is sitting pretty. I got 90% of the plumbing done need to go get a nut from lowes and it will be done. Gotta go get some more sand to put in there. Today hopefully I will have all the sand up and the salt and start putting some of the rock in. right now its pretty cloudy in there with the 4 bags of sand in there right now. But at least it has got water in it. Everything is sitting pretty level so that makes me happy and the stand is nice and stable. Not muc in the pic department to take today so hopefully I will get some pics up tomorrow when its not cloudy. But now the FUN actually gets to start. I will start modidfying the canopy probalby thursday and get that baby on the tank. I am gonna let the tank run a couple of weeks just to stabilize it out. I am sure I am gonna have a little cycle in there.
But like I said NOW THE FUN GETS TO START!!!!!!

[jojo22]

SWEET!!! Glad to hear you finally got it up!!

[Sweetpea]

It's up? WOOHOO!!! :D

[bobert]

lookin good!!!;)

[RHAPALA]

YA WANNA COME DO MINE?

[Whoyah]

Awesome. I glad to hear everything is coming together. You diffiantly need tp post some pictures though.

[graphixx]

right now I have about half of the rock in. I still have a brute trash can full of LR that needs to go in. I will get in hopefully tomorrow or thursday. still really cloudy. But I am glad there is water in there. it took 2 five gallon buckets of salt and then had to run and get a bag of salt to get it up to salinity. But its getting there. i will get some pics tomorrow when it clears up

[jojo22]

I'm gonna drive to Idaho just to kick you in the junk if we don't get some pics soon!!! LOL...But pics would be nice???

[graphixx]

I would take a pic, but all it would be is of a cloudy tank and that is not much to look at. So right now I will just tease. should clear up by tomorrow evening. i will get some up when I get home tomorrow.

[jojo22]

Sounds good to me buddy!!

[hummer]

ya ya click away more is better also take some pics. of the frags too

[graphixx]

Well yesterday (thursday) I spend all day on the tank. I got the racks in and got some rock on them. One of them was a little too big but I made it work. Right now I have 90% of the rock in there. I threw hermit in there 2 days ago and saw him last night and the same with a snail. I also had a tulip anenome floating in my holding tank and threw that in there. and all 3 are doing good. but I am srue I will get some sort of a cycle. I will hopefully finish getting the rock in tonight and aquascaped. I will fire up the overflows tomorrow and then let it sit for a couple weeks to let it stabilize. right now I have just 1x400w light over it and WHOLLY COW I dont need to use the lights in the living room anymore. I cant wait to see it with all the lights fired up.

[perpetual98]

Are you going to use a light mover?

And don't you have a job? :)

[graphixx]

no I am not using a light mover. the canopy that is going on the tank has a frame that the lights are fastened to and tilts up like a car hood. so that will leave me plenty of space if I need to get in there. AND YES I HAVE A JOB!!!!!! That is actually why this has taken soo long. I am doing this stuff when I get home from work. ssshhheeeessshhhh

[perpetual98]

LOL

If you used a light mover, you could get away with less halides and lower your electric bill. You could probably get away with two 400W over the tank and actually have better coral growth and a lower 'lectric bill.

Just my 1.5 cents.

[graphixx]

Now Eric, what fun would less lights be, man your getting soft in your old age. your a sissy la la

[perpetual98]

Hmm, let me try to crunch a few numbers....

Your way... (If I remember correctly, your new tank is 8 feet wide)

(All items for reference only. :) )

Luninarc Mini reflectors: $120 each ($480 total)
400W halide bulbs: $60 each ($240 total)
400W ballasts: (we'll go magnetic to save money) $75 each ($300 total)

1600W per day x 8 hrs per day x 4.77 cents per kilowatt hour (Idaho is the cheapest in the US BTW) = 61 cents per day, $18.50 or so per month roughly and $223 per year in electric

Total cost for 1 year of 4x400W lights = $1243
Total cost for 2 years figuring 1 set of replacement bulbs: $1706

My way...

Luninarc Mini reflectors: $120 each ($240 total)
400W halide bulbs: $60 each ($120 total)
400W ballasts: (we'll go magnetic to save money) $75 each ($150 total)
Lightrail 3 kit and rail: ~$200
Lightrail trolley kit to add another light: ~$50

800W per day x 8 hrs per day x 4.77 cents per kilowatt hour = 30 cents per day, $9.10 or so per month roughly and $109 per year in electric

Total cost for 1 year of 2x400W lights = $869
Total cost for 2 years figuring 1 set of replacement bulbs: $1098
[/b]
And I'm not getting soft in my old age, I'm getting better, like a $4 bottle of wine baby!

:)

[graphixx]

HHHAAAAA!!!! I am only running 2x400 watters and the other 2 are 250 watter. that has got to save at leave 3 or 4 bucks a year!!!!! Man you had to crunch the numbers. no offense buddy but I am deleting that post you made. my wife sees that and I AM A DEAD MAN!!!!! "Naw honey this wont be TTHHAAATTT much to run" ERIC YOUR KILLIN ME

[Reptoreef]

LOL!!! That's too funny.

[perpetual98]

LOL. I only crunched the numbers cuz you called me soft and I was curious to see what they'd come out to, not to sway you in any particular direction.

[hummer]

lol.. mine would kill me too deleat that post for all of us ....lol.lol.lol.lol.

[hummer]

those are nice (dewalt packages) sure do come in handy are you going to ask for them for chrismas?

[graphixx]

Allright baby, its all down hill from here!!!! I got all the plumbing done and finished topping the beast off!!!!! everything is looking good so far. I think I got the flow rate dialed in and seems to be running smooth. I have a few more pieces of LR in the tank. I will do that tomorrow. And then I am gonna get the aquascape how I like it and then let it sit for a week or so just to see how the parameters go. and soon as everything looks good ..............................THE FISH AND CORALS ARE GOING IN!!!!! Its nice having all the plumbing and "noisy" stuff on the other side of the wall. Pretty dang quiet. I am excited for the aquascaping. I think its gonna look really really nice if it turns out how I have it pictured in my head. but then again has anything gone that way on this little adventure.
I am gonna upgrade the pump for the manifold. I need one twice as good. gonna look into some mag pumps, not sure what I want. But as for the time being I have some Powerheads dropped in there. I have 2 return pumps int he sump one for the manifold and one for the built in returns so the flow in there actually very good right now.
But that is where I am at. I will get some pics up tomorrow. right now there is not much to look at just a pile of rocks with a single light over it.
THANKS FOR TUNING IN!!!!

[Sweetpea]

Still waiting for pics... but who am I to complain? ;)

Nah, really... Can't wait to see how it looks Greg!

[graphixx]

Allright here ya go. its not much to look at right now. the pics of the whole tank I still have to paint in inside trim (tomorrow) and the rockwork is not done. You can still see some of the racks but that is cause I have corals that are going in the gaps. But here are some pics!!!!!!!!

[Dirt4dinner]

Dude, it looks SOOOOO GOOOOOOOD! Glad you finally get to stare at something other than a hole in the wall.

Speaking of holes in walls...I almost called you today! We up to a flooded hallway this morning. I had a buddy drag his Saws-All over and we cut a MONSTER hole in my living room wall. Found the leak, turns out the fixtures in the shower are falling apart. 20 years will do that I suppose. I have my work cut out over the next few days trying to get this repaired before my folks show up for Christmas this weekend.

On the list of To-Do; Tear out all the tile in the shower, replace faucet, valve, and shower head hardware, install new vinyl shower walls, replace drain kit, paint all wood around water damaged area with anti-mold paint, re-dry wall monster hole, seal and paint the monster hole, install new carpet pad, install new tack strip that rotted, relay the carpet, replace baseboard, paint that sucker to match the rest....then open the doors because Family should be walking up the driveway by the time I get that all done!

Pack your crap and get down here to help me...I will feed you some Honeybaked Ham on Christmas!!!

[greg97527]

Officially highjacked-------Hey dirt4dinner if you need any help or info hit my up. i'm licensed and trained in mold remediation as well as all aspects of water damage. I was a water damage specialist for 4 years. i know from experience and sick time in the hospital what mold can do to a body.


back on topic---------BEAUTIFUL! NUFF SAID

[graphixx]

oh man if I didnt HATE ham I would be there in a heart beat. man you do have some work cut out for you. but it will be good practice when you do your in wall tank ;)

[hummer]

very nice greg ...are only half you lights in or is that temp lights?
how deep is your sand and is it all sugar size?

[graphixx]

Bob, yeah right now I only have 1 400 watt MH over the tank. I will customize the canopy hopefully thursday and get it on the tank. that will put ALOT more light over that sucker.

[Iconz]

lookin REALLY good greg! Very impressive job! Congrats!

[Sweetpea]

Looks awesome, Greg!

[Iconz]

Come on! I know you've done some work on this bad boy over the past week! Update!!! :)

[graphixx]

actually I havent. I am just letting it go through a cycle and mellow out. right now I have 1 yellow tang, 1 damsel and 1 clown in there with a bunch of snails and hermits I did however lose one yellow tang. I dont know what happened to him. I am going to do another waterchange here in the next day or 2 and hopefully this time next week will be transfering everything into the big tank and then will work on the canopy!! But right now its ugly in there. a TON of algae in there but slowly its starting to level out.

[Iconz]

gotya! just keep us posted, sorry to hear about the tang!

[graphixx]

Well good news and bad news. first the bad news. last night I was checking on my tank. I noticed that my damm sailfin tang WAS DEAD!!!! I think it might have been the stress from the holding tank. but I am not sure cause he had no signs of stress and he was eating like a pig. so that made it final. I dropped everything I was doing and started moving EVERYTHING into the new tank. it took approx 2 hours to move but I got everything in there. I watched them very closely the rest of the night (about 3 hours) and went to bed hoping they would be fine. I woke up this morning and kicked on the lights and everybody came out and looked very very happy. My hippo tang seems like she is in heaven, just cruising around you can almost see the smile on her face. and all of the corals look happy and all puffed out and polyps a dancing. I will get some pics later in the day to show you. It breaks my heart. I had some serious serious loss getting this tank up and running. I would say I lost approx 30-40% of my corals and over 1500.00 in fish. But I can honestly say I did try my hardest to make sure I had mininal loss of life. but I guess somethings you just cant control. :( I am gonna miss that tang

[Iconz]

AWW! Sorry to hear about that buddy! That's tough. Hopefully, from here on out, it will be all or mostly (90%+) good news!

[Reptoreef]

Loss sucks... good luck, my brother.

[graphixx]

Allright here are the pics with everyone and everything in their new home. Now remember this is still a work in progress. right now I am only running 1x400w 1x250w MH with 2 actinics. so there is literally double the light going in there. and I am waiting for my new pump for the manifold so right now I have powerheads in there for flow. Its still pretty bare in there. but that will eventually start to fill in. I have some corals ordered but gonna wait a little bit till they are in the tank. but so far I am very pleased with the way its looking. the LR racks are AWESOME there is soo many little nooks and crannys for the fish to cruise around in. they really seem to be enjoying it. the length of the tank is nice but what amazes me is the depth of the tank. the tank is 34 inches front to back. they have sooo much room to swim around it its fantastic. it looks like everyone had their favorite little spot picked out and are starting to nestle in .............. HERE ARE THE PICS!!!!!

[jerryc]

Greg just had time to read all of your new thread the new tank is awesome
CONGRATULATIONS...... jerry

[jojo22]

But now you have to clean two rooms in your house before you can show off that beautiful tank!! HAHA

[Sweetpea]

Greg, I am speechless, and that doesn't happen too often (just ask Paul). ;)

B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L

(I'm really sorry about the extent of loss you've suffered.)

[Iconz]

It is gorgeous bro! Very well done! Congo-rats! :)

[graphixx]

thanks guys I appreciate it. and I only have 1 room to clean. and that should not be toooo bad. i will hopefully get most of it cleaned up tomorrow. I will take before and after pics of the room. its in pretty bad shape. I will hopefully get the canopy done tomorrow and get it on the tank and then I can take down the 50 gallon hold tank and get it out of the way. I bought a new couch to go in that room. so this room will now be a den/sitting room so it should be pretty nice

[hummer]

awsome well...get to cleaning and shooting some pic....lol lol lots of them o and dont for get your sump the canopy plumming well you get the idea take lots of pic. hee hhe hhheeeeeeee

[dakar]

Looking good Greg.... Mayhaps this spring we can make a trip out that way to do some visiting and see her when she's really up and rocking.

[graphixx]

oh man that would be great!!!! and anybody for that matter. if your ever in this neighborhood or just like taking a drive or a trip. I have plenty of room and would love to meet some members in person. Tyler (dirt4dinner) will be here the end of the month. I cant wait, that is going to be a blast!!!

[graphixx]

slowly but surely this tank is finishing up. I have come to the conclusion that I cannot add anymore fish. I have a damsel that is meaner that heck and tortures any otherfish I put in there and the other fish in there arent very kind either. I think its because they have all lived together for at least 2 years so they are gonna have plenty of room I only have: hippo tang, yellow tang, lyretail anthia (male),bangai cardinal, damsel from ****, maroon clown, perc clown, lawn mower blenny, jeweled goby, 2 spot goby. I tried a copperband last week and literally got torn apart and I could not net him to save him so that was a sad day. I will try 8 peppermint shrimp for the aptaisia and that is all the rest of the live stock that will be put in excluding corals.
I got a dual 400w ballast and have both 400 watters running they are 14k's and that is ALOT of light I dont think I am gonna run the actinics or any other lighting. every coral is doing FANTASTIC!!!!
I ordered a sequence pump for the manifold (well the wife did) a hammerhead that is 5800 gph for the manifold will be plumbed to 8 1 1/4" ports so hoping that will be enough flow.
This has been hard to do I am on the road 5 days a week with work and then trying to cram a weeks worth of personal "to-do's" in 2 days leaves very little time for anything.
The canopy needs a little trimming and then a coat of paint and it will be done. But slowly its coming around. I will post some pics when I get home.

[Fatman]

Agreed Greg, my current set up is very simialir after so long (over a year) being together my current fish will not accept any outsiders, I personally dont mind cause gives a good excuse to get more tanks ;)

[jojo22]

GREG YOU OF ALL PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!



Should know not to post an update like this WITHOUT PICS!!! Nice teaser though. Can't wait to see the pics.

[hummer]

go fishing and catch the dansal and put that boy in the sunp if hes that mean....

[Sweetpea]

Pics please... I'm hungry, and I know your pics are satisfying! ;)

[Iconz]

go fishing and catch the dams3l and put that boy in the sump if hes that mean....

HAHA!! Very good point!... Stick him in the sump, and give him a very STERN talkin to!

[hummer]

aw .....wheres tha pics

[graphixx]

I will get some pics up tonight. I have to clean the glass. and as for fishing the damsel....... I HAVE TRIED. that fish is SMART!!! I have tried everything, net,jar I even used a fish hook with some scallop on it. the little ******* knows that I am out for him I just know it. I could of caught every other fish in my tank 10 times over with the hook or the net but that damsel just goes and hides. I even tried (please forgive me for saying this) spear fishing but he is tooo dang smart. I will figure something out.

[oashieo]

this is too awesome! you got guts man! i would be so nervous to cut a hole in my wall HAHA. but thats me. it looks so awesome i cant wait for the new pictures. too excited.

[graphixx]

Yeah I know I am a little behind getting this done (along with other projects) But last night I ordered my return pump. A sequence hammerhead pump 5800gph http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewItem.asp?idproduct=MM1158

This will feed 8-1 1/2 inch ports. should have good flow. The sump will be drilled on the right side of the tank and go 1 foot to the return pump and then from the pump it will go approx 5 feet up and then "T" to the from and rear of the tank and then each T will 90 to run the full length of the tank the front and the back of the tank will each have 4 - 1 1/2 inch ports which water will enter the tank. The is the best way I figure witht he least path of resistance thus keeping max head pressure.
The pump hopefully will be here by thursday and I can get the manifold done thursday. The biggest pain is gonna be taking the sump out from under tha tank to get drilled.
I will take pics of this adventure

[perpetual98]

Hey! Thanks for the business! *grumble grumble* ;)

[graphixx]

I told you to get me a price on one you knucklehead!!!!

[perpetual98]

You and I need to get divorced. You just don't listen to me any more *sob*

I put them up on my site forever ago when you and I talked about them. Oh well, no biggie. Keep supporting "the man" :)

[Sweetpea]

It just may be time for a divorce... you two definitely sound like an old married couple! Luv ya both! ;)

[hummer]

wow ..sounds like you got one heck of a setup there .... dont forget to take pics of the sump and pluming too :)

[graphixx]

will do. I am gonna redo the sump too while its out. I need to install some baffles and clean up the refugium and get a light hung on there. this will free up a lot of space in the sump (eliminating both return pumps that are in there now) so should make for a nice refugium (and home for my damsel if I ever catch him) but yes pics will come. I checked my tracking on the pump and it will arrive friday so I will try and get all the holes drilled on the top of the main tank sunday and the plumbing ran up top sunday and then thursday take the sump in to get it drilled. and then finish the canopy and get it on and put on the front of the stand and it should be all cleaned up.

[hummer]

best thing is a good plan and sounds like you have one :)

[Iconz]

sounds like a good plan to me greg!... lookin forward to seein how it comes out!

[Sweetpea]

a big "ditto" here :)

[graphixx]

I got my pump today. and its a big sucker. i will get some pics up of it tomorrow and try and take a pic of my new goodies that I got today also. I got anice colony of cloved xenia, fairy wrasse and some peppermint shrimp. so pics will come

[ramoth41]

Can't wait for the pics! looks great so far!

[graphixx]

Allright here are some pics finally. the first one is of the full tank. I got a rodiron design to hang over the top I think it finishes it off. 2nd is of my cat. I think she enjoys the tank as much as I do. the next 2 are of my new wrasse, its nice to see him out and about the tank adds some really nice color. the next one is my acan he was looking good today so thought i would throw that in there and the last 2 are of my new pump for the manifold (I got all the drilling done on the main tank and will get sump drilled thursday).

[hummer]

looken awsome ..wish it was mine :):)

[Sparky]

WOW!!! Greg that room and tank turned out great!!! Job well done my friend! Well done!!

[Sweetpea]

Looks SO nice! I really like the iron piece... it does add a nice finish to it!

[jojo22]

Looks good buddy!!! Can't wait to see the sump rebuild pics!!

[graphixx]

thanks guys I appreciate it. I would of had the manifold plumbing done yesterday but I bought the wrong size holesaw, I will get that done tonigh and get some pics up. checking on a price to get a hole drilled today if its too much I might just end up ordering some bits and doing it myself, it would be nice to have those incase I end up doing some more drilling in the future. And I am excited to redo this sump right now there are no baffles or anything in there its pretty bad so that will be nice. I am excited to get this tank finished up and have my den back to a normal CLEAN situation right now I have stuff strung from **** to breakfast so all of that is in the works. I will keep you guys posted.

[mutts]

looks good! great job framing it in, looks really really good!

[spookey]

looks good graphixx


chris

[eldiente]

Greg, looks great!! Thanks for coming over to my house and looking at my tank and answering all of my questions yesterday. brian

[graphixx]

Brian anytime my friend, it was great meeting you. Actually you need to go to the new members and post a hello and post pics of your tank. For everyone else Brian (eldiente) lives in the same town as I do and has a BEAUTIFUL 210 gallon tank that sits inwall above his fireplace. I got the opportunity to meet brian and see his tank. A fantastic set up and a great guy to boot. So not Brian you need to get some pics of that baby on the forum!!!!! As soon as I get this mess together and get it looking good I will have you over and see my tank!!!! Also I got some of those goodies you wanted ordered as well. I will let youknow.

[eldiente]

will do, I think I've got some pics of my tank somewhere, I'll give you a call sometime soon and I've got a guy down in SLC that is interested in your new business venture. brian

[Reptoreef]

Greg, Got a bite in on a business(or 2) that's interested in your stuff... email some price lists to contacts @ www.aquaticdreamer.com and www.msm.com . Good luck my brother! I'm sure I'll find more!!!

[graphixx]

hey guys I appreciate it!!! any business you throw my way I will make sure that it doesnt go unnoticed.

[hummer]

greg.. i will tell the lfs about you ok buddy!!!!

[spookey]

nice greg

chris

[graphixx]

I am in the process of doing up another master list for stores, if you guys have a store tht would be interested let me know and I can fax or email them a list of stock both fish and coral/inverts. For the next couple of weeks is tricky on our indonesian shipments cause of the storms but the soloman and phillepine are coming in very nice. Indo should be back to full steam in a week or 2 (talked to the vendor yesterday) There farm actually got hit really good with this storm, he is sending us pics when I get them I will post them up.

[carpenterwrasse]

check out under the sea here in pittsburgh (Cranberry) heres their web site. http://www.utsfish.com/
they are decent people
George

[Reptoreef]

The Aquarium (801) 255-3698 Brad Daniels Sandy 9132 S. 700 E.
Aquatic Dreams (801) 392-1300 Ryan Vickers Ogden 2550 S. 1760 W. www.aquaticdreamer.com
Aquatica (801) 224-1515 Shawn Barton Orem 537 N. 1200 W. www.aquaticaonline.net
Burton Marine
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[graphixx]

WOW!!! Jay you are the man buddy!!! I will be down in your neck of the woods the end of the month. we just plumbed approx another 1200 gallons of tanks and are cycling them right now. I have been taking pics of the process and will do a HUGE thread on the whole process when its done.

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Long time no see. I thought I would pop in and just give a quick blurb of how the tank is doing....... Not too bad actually. I got the manifold done and it works good I have some nice flow in the tank. Got the front of the stand on and that really cleaned up the look to it. The canopy will go on in the next week to 10 days. I have a couple of shipments coming in that I want to get into the tank before the canopy goes on.
This week I added some critters I got a nice galaxea coral, some clove polyps, a beautiful bubble tip anenome, cleaner wrasse.
What I have coming in: 1 male purple queen anthia and 2 females, painted fairy wrasse, some montipora's, enchinatas, purple digitata and I know I am missing something.
The fish and corals seems to be doing very well in the tank and I am quite pleased, the sps corals are doing fantastic!!! Great polyp extension and seem to be growing nicely.
The only problem is the aptaisia!!!!! Its out of control, I have got 4 peppermint shrimp and a copperband in there but I dont think they are putting a dent in it. I think I might order a 6 pack of berghia nudibranch's to help this. I am gonna try and do some kalk paste here in the next day or 2 to try and get a handle on it see if that helps.
I PROMISE I will get some pics up when the rest of my stuff comes in and get the glass cleaned.
But just cruising right along!!!!

[mutts]

Sounds great, can't wait to see updated pictures of it.

[hummer]

sounds good bud :):)


i may get some thing from ya soon call ya when im ready :)

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yeah, I havent heard from ya in a while. you got my number buddy

[melev]

Time for an update with some fresh pictures. :)

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That is a deal. I am doing a 100 gallon water change this weekend and cleaning the glass so that will give me a good opportunity for some new pics. I added a new deresa clam about 7" across he is a beauty. also got a couple of mushrooms. and I ordered some new stuff as well I have a threadfin flasher wrasse coming in, 4 new zoo colonies, a couple of acros coming in and I bieleve a few montiporas as well. I will get them in and settled and get some new pics. everything so far is doing good. I have good growth in the tank and everyone is happy. I need some more cleaners in there I am having a hard time keeping up with the algae on the glass but nothing some snails cant fix. But yes I promise I will get some pics in the next 4-5 days