Will a mag 24 be to much for my 55g??

[Fatman]

55g x 40 = 2200

But I was planning to install a manifold on my 55g to improve flow so I figure this contrction would probably bring down the 2400 due to friction loss to like 1900 which should be ok right?

[hummer]

not sure but i have a mag 18 for mt 55 gal check out my thread in the diy fourm 55 from the start it shows the manafold im useing and more.
leave a post tell what you think :):):)

[jojo22]

Yes you should be plenty fine.

[melev]

Um.... and you want to put this in your wet/dry sump?

That is way too much pump for that size tank. That pump is too much pump for most tanks, and adds a ton of heat. Those that use them also use a chiller just to deal with that. So now you have two items sucking up tons of electricity around the clock, plus the expense of the chiller itself.

On my 55g, I used a Mag 9.5 as my return pump and it was too much flow. The overflow couldn't keep up.

If you want a pump for a closed loop with a ton of flow using the manifold system, I would consider the Sequence Dart. It is rated 3600gph at 0 head and uses 160w of power. The Mag 24 uses 265w of power by comparison, and isn't rated to be used externally anyway.

[Fatman]

not sure but i have a mag 18 for mt 55 gal check out my thread in the diy fourm 55 from the start it shows the manafold im useing and more.
leave a post tell what you think :):):)

Wow you sure have come a long way there, it looks incredible. Your return seems to be an open, I was going more for the closed loop to not have pressure loss at the ends but thanks for the awsome pics looks great.

[dakar]

Maybe I'm not reading this right, Is the Mag24 intended for a closed loop or for a return pump?

[Fatman]

Maybe I'm not reading this right, Is the Mag24 intended for a closed loop or for a return pump?

Both, a return that returns into a closed loop.


So water goes from sump through pump to manifold ( thats closed ) out to tank.

[dakar]

Gotcha... that explains my confusion.... I agree with Melev, no mater which way I look at it that's WAY overkill. Another example, on our 55g I had a Mag9.5 for the return with the sump 6 feet below the tank (sump was in the basement) and the 9.5 could outrun my 1" overflow with ease.

I've never been known to 'under do' anything, More Power has always been my mantra, but I've learned my share of lessons along the way too.

Just my opinion, the Mag24 is a great pump, but for what it was originally designed for and labeled as.... a pond pump, to be used submerged in a pond to make pretty fountains and stuff, and prevent the pond from freezing... they are pretty bulletproof, but at a cost..... over half of it's power consumption is converted to heat and not towards pumping water.

In an aquarium that would be like leaving a 150w heater on running full bore 24x7.... for the sake of argument lets say anything with less than 300g or 18 square feet of surface area, that heat can't be disappated without having to add more to the system... ie chillers, which starts you in that never ending circle that only spins your electric meter.

[Fatman]

Well im currently running the 9.5 in my 55g and It defintely does not feel adequate I added two power heads to it to add additonal flow. How about the MAG 12 or 18 those are a bit inbetween.

Melv I completley missed your post (sorry) Those sequence dart, look incredible. I saw a 2400 model that may fit what Im looking for. Can they be used externally? Also I noticed it says they are adjustable flow? By adjusting their power draw?

[Fatman]

*Bump* There is a guy selling a mag 18 in Florida was wondering if this would be a good in-between, want to try to get it so can I get feedback guys?
Thanks!

[hummer]

cant go wrong if its a good price

great info hope my stuff works theres no turnen back...lol

[melev]

Fatman, you do not need a big pump for the return pump. A return pump returns water to the tank.

You can have any pump you like for a closed loop. A closed loop sucks water out of the tank and pushes it back in, like the circulatory system in your body. Just like your blood never makes contact with air, the water in your tank never makes contact with air (as it would with a sump). It flows out via tubing to the pump and right back in.

Just use your current pump, which is more than enough. You can get some modded maxijets or Tunze Nanostreams to create lots of flow that use very little space in the tank and very little electricity/heat.

[Fatman]

Fatman, you do not need a big pump for the return pump. A return pump returns water to the tank.

You can have any pump you like for a closed loop. A closed loop sucks water out of the tank and pushes it back in, like the circulatory system in your body. Just like your blood never makes contact with air, the water in your tank never makes contact with air (as it would with a sump). It flows out via tubing to the pump and right back in.

Just use your current pump, which is more than enough. You can get some modded maxijets or Tunze Nanostreams to create lots of flow that use very little space in the tank and very little electricity/heat.

Where would I set up the intake side without it making it look ugly in the tank?

Got any links to those 2 that you mentioned?
Thanks Melv!

[melev]

Here is my closed loop. It was a DIY project I did years ago, and there are much nicer options for the intake section that you could use instead.
http://www.melevsreef.com/closedloop.html

[Fatman]

Here is my closed loop. It was a DIY project I did years ago, and there are much nicer options for the intake section that you could use instead.
http://www.melevsreef.com/closedloop.html

Awsome thanks for the link , what about those pumps? Im going to get on that project soon.

[melev]

MJmods.com: http://www.mjmods.com/index.php?main_page=product_reviews_info&products_id=1&reviews_id=8&zenid=74a4d49fd46ad7429a52f95bf185dd97

Tunze Nano Stream: http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewItem.asp?idproduct=TZ1211

[Fatman]

Im probably going to go with a modified version of your closed loop, it really got my imagination going, pics will be soon hopefully.