hummers 55gal all wet

[hummer]

ok here it is my fish tank .i thought i would start a new thread thanks for following the build thread

there is 110 lbs of live sand .. 90lbs in the tank and 20lbs in the sump which i built :) there is 1500gal otb over flow with2 1" hoses feeding a 41gal sump the skimmeris a berlin clasic that treats 500 gal an hr ,the return is a mag 18 rated for 1800 gal an hr the flow throu the tankis about 1500 an hr once the live rocks in so the flow rate to gal in tank will be x 33 the tank

the flow is perfect.. all valves wide open except for the refugium but not sure how much flow is going too it though

i may need a couple of power heads still .. but will see.. hopefull not
but i dont think it i will need them :(

well here thay are the the pics
the first few are the tank just before the pump was turned on the rest well you all will know....

the very last pic .. in the first stage of the sump has so much water going to it it was spashing out it needed a cover so. i had to make some thing so i used a rubber mat that was made the same stuff thats under the sump. it also reduced the noise some thats was cool...no snags so far thank god

[graphixx]

aaaahhhh buddy that is what I am talking about. now that hang on filter will eventually go away correct and you are putting your heater in your sump also right?? i am glad all the plumbing worked out, you sounded a little worried on the phone today. but dang glad to see if wet. that is gonna be awesome!!!!

[jojo22]

Your ROCK.....Now go get some ROCK!!!!!!!

[mutts]

looking really good hummer it is coming along nicely!

[spookey]

all i can say is dammmmm hummer..=) good job




chris

[RWalston]

Hummer

I have been reading along from the beginning. You have taken great care in building your tank slow to make sure everything was done right. Keep that pace and you will have a beautiful tank. Just some advice, you might want to get a controller for your tank, like the Reefkeeper II you will not be sorry, also look into getting an auto top off I know califronareefs has a good one that is inexpensive.

Cant wait to see the rock work.

Rich

[Fatman]

Hummer question, is all that splashing and bubbles slowing down or minimal cause you'll have salt deposits everywhere at that rate =P

[Iconz]

It looks awesome bud! You've done a fantastic job with it. Hope your bubbles are going away!

[hummer]

ok to day i got live rock 30lbs andi gave some to bobbo too


i got all kinds mostly premium rock but i need more so here thay are!!!!!
on the live rock was some snails about 8 of them and a 2 brissal worns that i seen im sure theirs more of them .. and there lots of fans also, and a brittale star is now in the tank it was in the water that the rocks got brought home in

[graphixx]

allrighty buddy now were cooking. i am sure you got more critters in that rock than you know!!!!! BUT were gonna need a full tank shot if you would please. but soooo far sooooo good!!!!

[jojo22]

lookin sweet buddy keep up the good work!!!!

[hummer]

bubbles all gone i added a few sponges to catch them all ...and raised the water in the sump .. works great now.... o the brisal star is about the size of a quarter

[hummer]

here these pics came out nice :):):)

[pass1over]

your problem with all the splashing going on in your 1st chamber, I had the exact same problem when I built my first sump.

What i noticed you did was the same thing I did .... the pvc pipe for in water goes all the way to the bottom of the sump. I pulled mine out, cut off like 2 inches, and no more splashing.

If you dont want to keep the rubber mat on there and if its at all possible to pull that pipe out, trim an inch or so off, will make a huge difference.

~~I drilled holes in my pipe as well, but it just wasnt enough flow

[Fatman]

Careful , sponges = nitrates. Looks great btw!!

[hummer]

fatman.. ya sponges aret good but flow though sump was soo great i will have to maintan them i well probable clean them once a week



pass1over....there are big notch in the down pipes at the bottem..i thought when i added the rock i would have too take out some water but i was wrong the over box just suck it right up and put it in the sump sump is holding more water .
i think that one of the reasones the bubbles started to go a way faster but not sure

[RHAPALA]

looking good man keep it up

[hummer]

thanks jimmy i like yous too....

[Iconz]

Lookin really good bro! I like it... Just get us a full tank shot if you can!!!

-JD

[Sweetpea]

Looks really great!!! CONGRATS!!!

[Fatman]

What type of lighting are you using?

[hummer]

orbit extrems 530watts 4 bulbs x130wats each 2 sunpaq dualdaylight (10000kand6700k)and dual actinic(460nmand 420nm)bulbs

this is all i know about them ... :( ....
i would like too know more if any one has info please tell...thanks

[spookey]

looks good hummer



chris

[hummer]

thanks spookey..


here are full tank shots..:) there is also 4 clams i found on the rocks too

[jojo22]

Pics of said clams please????? Come on don't make us beg!!!

[Fatman]

orbit extrems 530watts 4 bulbs x130wats each 2 sunpaq dualdaylight (10000kand6700k)and dual actinic(460nmand 420nm)bulbs

this is all i know about them ... :( ....
i would like too know more if any one has info please tell...thanks

These it?

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=13739&inm=1&N=2004+2032

[hummer]

yes fatman.. sorry i said 530watts there 520watts but that add is all i know of them


ok....jojo ill try i think there about 6 thay look like part of the rock

[jojo22]

OOOHHH you mean dead ones. I thought maybe they where little cleaner clams or something.

[hummer]

ok here hay are the pics of the clams ...three in the fist pic and 2 in the second pic.

no no.... not dead i can see them open and close

[jojo22]

Look like what my LFS sells as jewel box clusters but I know nada about them

[hummer]

this rock i got the more look the more i find.....this is soo much fun.....

right now im trying to make a ajustable float mount to fit in the return

[hummer]

well my float mount is made but had one set back the acrilic that i heated and bent it . i broke it when i in stalled it so i used the next best thing too hold it in place velcro...hehe... classic.....


i also have some pic the first two pics i need ID the first is the snail what kind is it ? next pic is the red stuff could it be a spounge



the pics after that are my ajustable float mount and my tank and next to it is my water top off gravity feed to the float..




well i kinda have micro bubbles still.. but i have 1 more idea...

[jojo22]

Lookin good. Sorry to hear about the breakage. Glad you got it all figured out.

[w7afm]

Reading all of your thread and looking at all of your pictures you have come a long way, it is looking great. Keep up the good work.

Bob

[hummer]

thanks w7afm

and i think i have my micro bubbles under control my boss gave my a box of micron filters will see tomarrow morning if it helps if it dose i will post a pic too..

i re did part of my plumming for the over flows ran hose straite in too the sump it help not so many bubbles

but over flow boxs dose grergle a lot almost a constent and consitent noise any segestions?????? i have played with the tubes that came with it ....up dowm inthe middle and no change

[jojo22]

Give it a week to slime up if that does not help try this. Hofer Gurgle Buster Construction (http://home.everestkc.net/jrobertson57268/HGB/HGB_construction.html)

[hummer]

thanks jojo would elbos help???...... hofers looks a little tall for my overflow box

[jojo22]

It really shouldnt matter if it sticks out a little. it would still work the same if you read all the way thru it you will understand.

[Iconz]

I put an elbow in mine hummer, and it stopped my gurgling instantly.

[RWalston]

Make a dorso stand pipe for it. It will restrict flow alittle but you will not have any noise

[hummer]

here is the micron bag that my boss gave me it ia working great i 2 together and no more micro bubbles........yaya


i put them in where my overflow pipes go right into them

[spookey]

nice hummer.. im going to start redoing my 55g canopy and stand this weekend should be fun and my gf is going to help this time al right


chris

[bobert]

good job!!!!!!!!!!! looking good

[hummer]

good luck spookey take you time ....i think thats the secret :):):)

[stevebla]

Hummer great looking tank!!! Will motivate me to work on my 55 and get her running a little better. I have a question about flow in your sump you run a mag 18 ? How wide is your sump and how deep is the water? three questions anyway. The reason I ask is that on my 100g I am setting up i will need more flow in it and am trying to figure how much flow i cam manage in sump.

[hummer]

well my sump is 36"long 18" at it two widest parts except for 6 inches worth its10" because of the rear bracing in the center for the most part of the sump the water is 10"deep

im totaly new too salt but i wish thay would a made a mag 20 pump imo.. i thing that would of work better. i think i could of used a little more flow..for me im using my sump more like a closed loop system with a built in refuge that has very slow flow going too it
hope this makes sence to you

[stevebla]

Hummer it is helpful information thank you. I made a sump for the LFS guy in town and he going to do other things with his filtration and is going to sell it to me today. It is 4' long 12" wide and something like 16 high with 6 baffles. I will get to experiment during fresh water test I will post photos it will be funny seeing how many pumps i can fit in return chamber. can't test micro bubbles in fresh :( .

[Iconz]

Hmm, not to hijack your thread bob, but I'd like to address a part of Steve's question... Flow through the sump....

You really don't want more than 10-12x through a sump, and you want about 5x through your fuge. You want your water to have as much contact time in the sump (with the skimmer) as possible. So, slower is better. So, for instance, in you 100g tank, I'd go with about a 1000 - 1200gph return pump. Then, for the rest of your flow, I'd go with a closed loop manifold (CLM) or powerheads (PH's) whichever you prefer. CLM is more work, but usually looks alot better and you have more options with flow direction. Also, don't get a CLM and a RM (Return manifold) confused, alot of people do. I would sugguest something like a mag 12 or 18 for your return. And probably something from the Sequence line for a CLM (like a dart or a barracuda). But, that's just me.

[Sweetpea]

Okay, I'm going to re-hijack this thread... Bob, can I get one of those bags from you?

[hummer]

here are some pics of the cleanig crew i got

in the first pic are the snails i have 3 of them bu cant remember name of them

i also have 2 nassarius but there burroud in the sand some where....lol


pic # 2 is my blue leg hermets i have 3 of them and behind him is one of the red ones i have 6 of the red leg hermets

the last pic is my peperment shrimp almost lost him yesterday he got cought in my over flow box... but he is ok ,,,,, and he ate all my abstsyshas...:):):)

[graphixx]

Hummer, everytime I read this thread it puts a smile on my face. you have come sooo far and have soo much to be proud of. I remember the first time I talked to you on the phone and all the questions you had. your are going to be a fantastic reefer.
Your time and effort and true passion for this hobby really shows through.

[hummer]

thanks greg and evey time you help me you made it easy and made me feel better (..not so worred ) ..so thanks again bud... :):):)

[graphixx]

anytime my friend!!! that is why we are all here. to enjoy in eachother successes in this hobby.

[hummer]

i have two of these its a nassarius snail it finaly came out of the sand ...lol

[greg97527]

hey hummer, the snail you mentioned above is an Astrea snail! looking good bud.

[hummer]

realy lfs said it was a veitnam snail....lol thanks for the real info....hehehe

[hummer]

cool i got fishes ... and 5 lbs of LR fiji rock there the 3 clean newer pieces


the fish i got are maroons white stripe one of them (the larger one) has some gold in it hopfully that color stays..i like it

tell me what you all think??

[jojo22]

Lookin good buddy!!! You are now OFFICIALLY a marine fish keeper, take a bow you should be proud!!!

[hummer]

lol lol lol you make me gigle jojo thanks buddy.... :)

[jojo22]

I'm serious bud it looks great!! Are they showing any signs of who's gonna wear the wetsuit in the relationship???

[hummer]

well one is larger than the other by 1/4" so not sure

but thay do a nice wallts together its fun too watch them :):)

[jojo22]

One will become dominant and that is the female!!

[hummer]

the female made the male dig the bed for them as see stood gard...lol

[hummer]

thay (maroon clowns) found there home in my tank here is some more pics


ps ...fatman the 3 whiter LR fiji rock peises are new 5.5 lbs worth

[Sweetpea]

Looks GREAT! The fish are really cute! 90% of the Maroons I've seen in the stores look SO beat up and sad, but yours look super healthy! WTG!!!

[inuyasha_2266]

hummer ur tank looks kick *** can't wait to see more =)

[Fatman]

The tank is looking A+!!!

[spookey]

yes hummer looking good



chris

[hummer]

thanks all

[graphixx]

aaahhh buddy its soo dang good to see some stuff swimming in that tank. They look settled in and very very happy. Hats off to you friend.

[inuyasha_2266]

sry to hyjak thread hummer but i would like to apologize for previous language and have it edited if possible thank u and i am sry

[Iconz]

Looking great buddy! Congrats on the fish! They're awesome!

[hummer]

i went too lfs too day and picked up some new life ..a couple of rocks with goodies on them a snail and a ,red rose aneneme and a plant for the refuge and some zoos here are some pic's :):)

[spookey]

wow nice there hummer

[jojo22]

Looks nice. Good luck with the nem it's kind of early to put one in your tank.

[cweber]

Tank looks great bud, I like the rock work.

[hummer]

i feed a silver side too the rose today and he gobbled it all up then about an hr later the clowns introduced them selfs too the rose

last pic is of the zoo's thats what lfs called them

[jojo22]

Lookin Sweet dude!!!!!!!!!

[hummer]

thanks jojo

ps. any one know what kind of plant that is in the bag a few pics back is..???

[Iconz]

Looking really good hummer! Good luck with your new critters!

[hummer]

thanks icons ..
do you have a seahorse tank in the works yet for the wife?

[greg97527]

hey hummer, get some pics up of the frags i sent ya...i wanna see how the little guys are doing.

[Iconz]

Not yet bud, I don't think she's really convinced that she wants them..... YET.

[w7afm]

All the work you have done looks great.

Bob

[Sweetpea]

That's a beautiful anemone you got there! It's great to see the clowns in it already! Are they feeding it yet?

[hummer]

mmmmmm .. not sure sweetpea i did not know that thay did that (feed there anemone)

but i feed the rose anemone every 2 or 3 day 1 silver side
it justs sucks them right up

aaaa ...dont laugh but my little girl wants to touch the rose " and feel what it feels like" i told her.. No...... but what would happiens if some one would touch it ?

and thanks to all :):) for the help and suport

[hummer]

xtra xtra THANK YOU too greg97527 for the babby frags he sent me

will get pics up soon buddy... :):) i think thay may of been in shipping a little to long i thought you menchend thay were green dont see much colar in them tho

[greg97527]

they should get the color back as long as they are still alive and different lighting will also be a factor lol. on the torch...are the tentacles stretching out? and on the candy canes....are there heads opened and puffy looking? also did you just throwem in the tank or acclimate them slowly via drip method?

[hummer]

the boy very slowly rased the tempof frag water from 50 degree to then he acclimated it a 1/2 a shot glass for the first few every 15 min for a 1.5 hrs then he put it in my refuge and 10 hrs later i put them in tank the boy said thay still look the same sence thay arived will try too get pics in morning of it for you all

[spookey]

good job hummer lov your tank


chris

[greg97527]

heres a little trick hummer. smell them. if they make you gag tossem lol.
They will have a very very rancid smell if they are dead, otherwise they will just smell like a funky saltwater.

[hummer]

greb97527... here some picks of your babys :):)

and the rose seems to have found his home..

[greg97527]

hey bud, they are dead :( thats just the skeleton. i was worried when i found out that the post office didnt deliver on the day promised. oh well ill get some frags to ya later when its time to split them again. sorry man.

[spookey]

dead o no =( sorry to hear that hummer



chris

[bobert]

the water did smell pretty rancid when i opened it but its not your fault greg seneca mail service SUCKS

[hummer]

awwww...................... ..
well im going to still keep them in there . i like them :):)

and all my numbers are good

[hummer]

well my ph is a little about 7.8

should i ajust it

im going to do a water change this week end

[hummer]

for every one too see



just so you all know the tank is doing great im in the prossess of raising the ph it about 8 and going too ad a calcium regument .

these two items are the only things that have been added too the tank is there any other things i should add from the kent line of producs ???

[greg97527]

I personally use the following every saturday morning.

Kent Iodine (great for macro algae and clams, snails etc)
Kent tech a and b calcium
Kent essential Elements

I use the super buffer dkh only when needed to raise my ph up to 8.2 - 8.4

[hummer]

cool thanks bud..

[uscharalph]

Great job

[hummer]

thanks... :)

[hummer]

heres a couple pics every thing is great so far just added 16 lbs base rock kind of a filler for now .... hehe

and a new item i receved from my cousin ... it was too kind of here to do so ... :) thanks :):)

[cweber]

Its coming along very nice. Great job! Im waiting for my pump so i can get my sump and plumbing done.

[spookey]

nice work there hummer ....i still have things to do to my tank ha ha



chris

[hummer]

awsome... keep at it and it will get done

[hummer]

wow had my first problem

water temp
......... it was actualy hot(nice) here in IL but. the fish tank is up stairs cape-cod house style in my bed room right next to the water bed whitch is set at 80 im sure this dose not help . the tank was at 86 for 1.5 day :EKKE: it took me to lower it slowly lowering it back down

aw....sh*t ..... i think im going too need a chiller .... did not expect this :(

so far every thing seems fine ...... thank god .....


i also learn some things out of this mishap.....

first thing is ...... ALL WAYS keep at least 4 freaser ice pack on hand so you can swap them out.....

secend thing is ................ i work way too much...
and not home my little girl and wife help me and thay did a fantastic job :):) and my biggist THANKS gose too them :):):):):):):)

[Iconz]

Glad you caught it when you did! I hope all of your critters are okay!

[jojo22]

A window AC unit would be cheaper, I think it would work, it has for others.

Just my 2 pennies

[spookey]

yea what jo said .... now i have my tank by a window in my basement and it keeps the water at the right temp


chris


p.s. maybe a small house fan

[hummer]

so far things are good no deaths and thay all still have good appitights(sp) ac window is out of the Ques..... i do have a ac in the house but too early in the season to turn it on yet and some times she shuts it off any way
fans yes would help and it did ...but i think a chiller would be a wize and save hasal free way to go . that way it in line with my way of thinking ..
whitch is if you going too do some thing do it right the first time!!! it will save you time and money in the long run poeple run back up heater. why not have a chiller for the same reason and it will be one more thing i dont have too worry about.see im trying too set up the tank as a hands off set up . lol lol just my take a while too get there ... hehehe
all donations wellcome ... ;) all in fun:)

[hummer]

here are some more pics

[cweber]

IMO the clown/nem relationship is one of the coolest things in this hobby.

I see your point on getting a chiller, are they going to be cheaper to run than a small a/c. On the other hand, if you have an a/c you also get a cooler less humid room. Just a thought.

Cory

[greg97527]

is it just me or does it look like that rose is about to split? u should be having 2 here pretty soon. A way that I've found to get them to split is do a watter change when you see them starting and they will split faster. Sometimes it will encourage them to split even when they haven't already started. Looking good though!

[hummer]

i thought he might be ..i hope he dont i like the size of him but the rock he it is in is very deep 4 to 5 inch if he dose split he will have too come out of the rock. befor he found this house he was on top of the rock and at night he would get real long about the size of a 20 oz bottle and the clowns would be is side him it did look cool ...

i should of took a pic but i didnt :( sorry all :(

[mutts]

looks really nice hummer

[hummer]

i just got 2 flame scalaps here are some pics of it

kinda glad i got two of them one of them went to the back of the tank and only one is out in front

[mutts]

make sure you feed them! they are not so hardy if you just ignore them. they are a filter feeder but you may want to offer it small foods near it to make sure it gets its fill... good luck!

[cweber]

Very nice bud!

[spookey]

yes nice hummer

[jojo22]

Look pretty healthy to me!!

[hummer]

thanks jojo

[spookey]

yea what jo said...i will be happy when i get things for my tank

[hummer]

make sure you take lots of pic .. i would love too see it spooky

[Rubbers]

hummer,

Excellent job in a short period of time. We meet this past Saturday at Frank's in Ottawa. Thanks for referring to the site. I can tell from the posts that people are very friendly here.

Bob P. aka Rubbers

[hummer]

may i say wellcome.......... and thank you these are all wonderfull people :):):)

[jojo22]

How about an update????

[hummer]

hi all sorry havent been on i did get some things for fathers day id like too share i have a sand sifting star fish and some palsating zenas and a mandrian gobee and a 7 line wrasp here are some pic's of the tank 5 months old

[jojo22]

Looks good man!!!

[cweber]

Very nice buddy!

[Sweetpea]

Looking good Hum!

[hummer]

thanks all.... i could not have done it with out all you :):):):)

[greg97527]

hey bud, be careful with the wrasse and mandarin as they both eat pods but the mandarin exclusively eats them and so these two fish will be competing for food. you may need to buy a stock of pods now and then unless you can get the mandarin weined onto sinking pellets or frozen brine.

[hummer]

thanks greg i did know that .. the wrasse was in my sump iv had him for amonth been trying too catch him the little bugger ..he was very fast ......but as of yesterday hes not with us any more he jumped out of the sump ...poor little guy he was cool :(:(:(

[greg97527]

awww man, those danged wrasses are notorious for that. window screening works great for that or any kind of netting that they can't fit through.

[cweber]

That sucks hummer, sorry bout the loss. They are a pretty fish.

[hummer]

pics of the star and of the gobe the wife took them... i like the second one :):)

[hummer]

hi narcle

[hummer]

hi all

[graphixx]

those are good pics of the mandarin showing off. and that last pic.............. man that is one ugly hitch hiker. I would toss that thing in the sump!!!
HHHAAAAAAAA just kidding buddy!

[slim]

The tank is looking great!

What did you do about your temp?

[hummer]

i have frozen (5) 1 leater botles & 1 galon jug and i rotate them in too the sump whith the help of the wife and kids thanks to them it works good so far

[Sweetpea]

Lady Speed Stick, huh? Does it work well for you?

Only kidding! (I'm sorry, but I just couldn't let that one get by...)

The pics are great, and your tank is really coming along nicely! Kudos to your family for helping you keep the temps down! :)

I've been seeing temps between 85-86 every day lately. I'm trying to convince someone to let me get a chiller. Sure, they're costly up front, but it's better than losing all the $ you put into livestock...

[hummer]

soo true tracy...lol..speed stick

[Sweetpea]

BTW -

I bought an oscillating fan (I think 16") and a 7" Honeywell "Turbo" fan Monday night. The small fan sits inside the tank cabinet (blowing over the sump), and the big one blows over the water surface of the display tank. In only 2 days, I have seen a temp drop from 86 to 79 degrees.

[hummer]

awsome ... i too have 2 fans on the tank....hehe

[hummer]

hi all what eats brisal worms

[Sweetpea]

How about a Six-line Wrasse?

[hummer]

ty tracy .. is there some thing else that wount eat pods too i do have a mandering gobee

[hummer]

hi all... well my tank is 11 month old and things are ok ..but i have lost a few things it was my fault i ran out of liquid feed for all my filter feeders so i lost my flame scalups and my paulsating zena and some thing that just showed up one day it ate fish i feed it all the time and it got quit big then one day i got stupid and feed it a a lg siver side and i think i chocked it too death ... :( and the wire hair got out of controll a little bit will get a pic up soon

[hummer]

hi all the tank is now one year old and it doing well about 3 weeks a go i added 1 more nassarius snail and 9 little blue leges hermeit crab , a yellow hawaiian tang , 8 lbs marshall rock and ,another dinosore egg rock and 12 lbs of base rock to the main tank and to the sump i added a blue damsel

so what do u all think ?

[dberrong]

Is that macro Algae in your main tank?

[hummer]

im not sure what do youall think it is ....

what ever it is i dont like it i bought the yellow tang hoping too take care of it

so any thoughts do you all like it ? the tank that is

[jojo22]

Tank is looking good. how's the dragonet doing?

[hummer]

hi jojo... ty.. and for the reply ...the dragonet is doing well but he still dose not eat the brine ..lol o-well

[jojo22]

May never eat it. But glad to hear all is well.

[The Rugger]

Looks good Hummer. I recent read the thread the followed your build of this tank. Good stuff. Thanks for sharing. It certainly got the wheels of this newbie spinning. I am in the process of building a 55 myself and was wondering if there is anything you would have done differently? Are you happy with the CLM?

[Sweetpea]

Hum - it's amazing to see the changes in your tank ... all grown up now! ;)

[hummer]

rugger... yes thing i would be a little diffrent bigger sump and pump :) and not so tall and instedof a c shaped sump it would of been connected around the center post a square circle ..... o the most inporant biggertank 90 gal...hehe


and hi sweetpea thank you for the input TY verry much

[Sweetpea]

About that macro algae... some of my tanks have it & some don't. If you don't like certain ones, I'd do my best to remove them by hand. I would not recommend buying a fish and hoping it will eat the algae you don't want.

Call me crazy, but I have some macro algae that I actually like, but I do have to keep it trimmed back. It doesn't take long to go crazy!

[The Rugger]

Yeah, I have a 55 Gal display and am ready for more room. In Time. In need to get the floors in the Main living area done before I go that route. I have been eye balling a 120 tall w/ starfire glass. It is super sweet. Oh well. One project at a time.