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Tom Toro
11-06-2009, 11:12 AM
O.k., here I go with the Tech M Bryopsis solution. Here are my parameters now:

Calcium 450
Alk 5.8
Magnesium 1300

I'm going to do a water change first (trying to get the alk up to at least 7) and then begin dosing 160 ml per day of the Tech M while monitoring all three buffering parameters. This should bring my Mag up 18.3 ppm per day. I'm going to bring it up to at least 1600 and am going to keep a good eye on my sps and other inhabitants.

I'm also on the Brightwell Bacter7/Vodka program. I'm very happy with those results. Here's hoping this shortcut to killing Bryopsis isn't a bad idea.

I didn't take pics because I just did a harvesting and there's not much left except strands.

I'll keep you posted.

Mike
11-06-2009, 01:18 PM
Hope it works for you. Keep us posted on progress.

MizTanks
11-06-2009, 01:26 PM
I've heard nothing but goodness about this treatment. It worked for me and several others that I know. However like myself a few have said now there's another algae growing where the Bryopsis was. Not sure of the type. None of my softies suffered at all from the Tech M treatment. Good luck and let us know how it goes!

jimsflies
11-06-2009, 01:52 PM
I did it a couple weeks ago. After 6 days of dosing Tech M, my bryopsis was 90% gone. After day 9 it was 100% gone. Now doing some water changes as I noticed some montis are looking a little peaked.

Tom Toro
11-06-2009, 02:01 PM
I did it a couple weeks ago. After 6 days of dosing Tech M, my bryopsis was 90% gone. After day 9 it was 100% gone. Now doing some water changes as I noticed some montis are looking a little peaked.

Good to know it's worked for so many. Kent has to be pretty happy about this alternate result of their mag dosing and only their mag.

Jim, were you dosing the amount to raise it 18.3ppm or a higher dosage? Also, I'm wondering if I did this for 6 days, waited a week and then continued until my mag was 1600 if it would be easier on my corals. I have lots of montis and they're my favorites.

jimsflies
11-06-2009, 02:08 PM
I wasn't too scientific about it. In my ~60 gallon system, I dosed 45 ml twice per day. A couple times early on I did it threee times per day. At day 6 when I noticed the bryopsis not growing so well, I used a turkey baster and it blew right of the rocks. I dosed a couple more times and then stopped.

I will test the water this weekend and let you know what I ended up at. Although I changed 10% this morning when I noticed things looking a little down.

I think the suggested target is something like 1800 ppm.

BTW- Tom why isn't your sig working? Did you try to upload it to CR?

Tom Toro
11-06-2009, 08:52 PM
Sounds good, Jim. I'll look for your info.

My sig works on my end when I click on it, but it takes a second for some reason.

By the way, I'm liking this site.

ReeferRob
11-06-2009, 08:59 PM
Hey Tom, Im gonna cruz along side with this thread and see how it goes. I actually started the Tech M dosing this evening myself. I had been using the BRS for the mag, but didn't have any luck with keeping the byropsis at bay.
I actually had a knarly battle with it about a month ago and thought I had won. Now I notice in the past week its sprouting out on some artificial plugs and things. We'll see........
Good luck to you!

jimsflies
11-06-2009, 09:07 PM
Tom- I didn't realize the url went to a large pic. I guess I thought you were trying to have a picture, not just a link. You can actually do both with this bbcode:

urltotheimage (insertyourlinkhere)

Glad your enjoying the site. I'm glad to have you here. If you have any suggestions, feel free to drop me a line.

Tom Toro
11-07-2009, 09:57 AM
Hey Tom, Im gonna cruz along side with this thread and see how it goes. I actually started the Tech M dosing this evening myself. I had been using the BRS for the mag, but didn't have any luck with keeping the byropsis at bay.
I actually had a knarly battle with it about a month ago and thought I had won. Now I notice in the past week its sprouting out on some artificial plugs and things. We'll see........
Good luck to you!

Hey Rob,
BRS didn't help me either. Kept the water clean, but didn't do much for the algae. How are you dosing? Enough to bring it up 18ppm per day or something else?

Tom Toro
11-07-2009, 09:59 AM
Tom- I didn't realize the url went to a large pic. I guess I thought you were trying to have a picture, not just a link. You can actually do both with this bbcode:

urltotheimage (insertyourlinkhere)

Glad your enjoying the site. I'm glad to have you here. If you have any suggestions, feel free to drop me a line.

I didn't know we could post a pic in our signature. Cool. I'll have to figure it out and post one, but you've seen my photo skills and they're not pretty. I did put my tank specs in the signature now.

Thanks,
Tom

tazzy695
11-08-2009, 05:13 PM
ok back on topic tom if you are only dosing enough to bring your mg up by 18.5 ppm per day then it is going to take you a long time to get rid of the bryopsys as you need to get your mg raised by several hundred ppm

it is safe to rais your mg by 100ppm per day but not more for most all corals only other thing I would sugest is putting a hold on the vodca dosing till you get the bryopsys killed as its death will cause a nutrient spike in the tank

Tom Toro
11-09-2009, 08:16 PM
ok back on topic tom if you are only dosing enough to bring your mg up by 18.5 ppm per day then it is going to take you a long time to get rid of the bryopsys as you need to get your mg raised by several hundred ppm

it is safe to rais your mg by 100ppm per day but not more for most all corals only other thing I would sugest is putting a hold on the vodca dosing till you get the bryopsys killed as its death will cause a nutrient spike in the tank

I am wimping out by only adding 20 per day, but I've shot myself in the foot before. Things were going well, but I wanted to make things perfect. I'll meet you half way. I'll up it to 50ppm per day 'til I get there. I agree, it is taking forever to get the Mg up. Thanks Marc.

Tom

cheapfish1
11-09-2009, 08:22 PM
not that I am advocating this but I dosed two of the normal sized kent's bottles into my 70 gallon total volume tank over the course of a weekend. Nothing looked hurt by this and the algae is dieing quickly. I dont think you have to be that careful with dosing this stuff.

ReeferRob
11-09-2009, 09:43 PM
Ive been dosing 50ml 3 times a day for 4 days now. Still have not noticed any difference yet.

tazzy695
11-10-2009, 03:21 AM
50ml how much dose that raise the mg in the tank tom if I rember you have a larger tank

Tom Toro
11-10-2009, 07:30 PM
50ml how much dose that raise the mg in the tank tom if I rember you have a larger tank

I think it calculated out to 44ml for 18.3ppm so about 20ppm per day. By the way, no difference, in fact seems worse. I might double it after I do my water change. I use Oceanic and it's supposed to have a standing mg of 1600.

My sps tank has about 165gal total volume when you subtract all the LR, sand and distance from the top (sump about 5" from the top).

ReeferRob
11-18-2009, 10:22 AM
I bumped up my dosing the day after my last post to 60mL 3 times a day! All is gone except one faint single stalk that is looking very translucent and weak today.
In total I have dose three complete bottle of Kent Tech M, I think I my do one more bottle and call it good!

tazzy695
11-18-2009, 09:38 PM
tom how is the eradication going

Tom Toro
11-22-2009, 05:28 PM
tom how is the eradication going

Not good, Marc. The sump is clean of all algae except some valonia, but the dt is full of bryopsis. The red turf algae seems to either be going away (white rock showing) or the fish are finally eating it. I ran out of Tech M so I'm ordering more tonight. Maybe I just didn't do it strongly enough.

I did kick up my bacter7 and vodka dosing. Maybe that will help if I can reach or get closer to uln.

MizTanks
11-22-2009, 05:47 PM
Not sure if this helps any but I too was treating for bryopsis with mag dosing~the fronds are gone but in it's place is another type of algae~not even sure if it HA or what~but it's come up right where the bryopsis was. I'm still dosing with mg but so far it's done nothing to this new algae hmmmmmmmmm?

tazzy695
11-22-2009, 07:19 PM
a lot of times normal hair algae will spring up in place of the bryopsys and consumes the nutrients that the bryopsys left behind

are you running macro algae miz if not I would add a light and some macro algae cheato works great to out compete the nuisance algae for nutrients

Tom Toro
12-14-2009, 11:05 AM
Well, the Tech M has another believer. It took awhile, but it's gone. In it's place is more of the red turf algae. The tangs can't keep up with it, so I'm going to have to do some more research and see what I can use to rid myself of that. Never ends. In the mean time, I'm leaving my mag up pretty high to make sure the bryopsis is gone.

Corals seemed to pale some, but two days a week of the coral frenzy along with Cyclopeze and they colored back up some.

MizTanks
12-14-2009, 11:11 AM
<<<<<wondering where Bryopsis comes from? Is red turf algae the same as red slim algae? If so~I used chemiclean and it was gone in 2 days~hasn't come back.

Fishgeek88
12-14-2009, 02:19 PM
I dont know what they put in that stuff but it works!

tazzy695
12-14-2009, 03:19 PM
the red turf algae is more like a hair agae or also known as cotton candy algae

the red turf algae is basically just cleaning up the excess nutrients and this would be where you would want to skim a little more aggressively maby cut back on lighting if you can and food supply all the normal methods of battling nuisance algae

Tom Toro
01-11-2010, 01:59 PM
Thanks to Slapshot's suggestion, I'm getting a hold on that red turf algae. I bought two tuxedo urchins (royal) and they're leaving a nice white rock in their wake. I mean white. I wonder if they're eating the coralline as well. I thought I read that somewhere, that they'll eat that too.

BeakerBob
01-11-2010, 05:04 PM
Yes, the urchins will also eat the coralline too.

Tom Toro
01-11-2010, 05:20 PM
sounds good. I hate scraping that stuff off the back. Maybe when they're done with the turf, they'll get to the glass.
Thanks,
Tom