System Design - Scheduled Chat 9-11 p EST

[Mike]

The one below it pushed around 5200 GPH.

[schminksbro]

Well 2 hours isn't enough time for "system design" lol

[Mike]

I would need to see the new design up close too. They look to be lower profile Korallia in design/

[Mike]

NOt even close. There are so many aspects to this.

[schminksbro]

The problem with one pump pushing 5200gph is where do I aim it? I am trying to get away from that problem.

[Mike]

YOu would need to pulse it up and down.

[jimsflies]

Yeah, we hit on a couple aspects of system design. I think this worked out pretty well. I'm sure we'll get better...

[Mike]

You would need to put that pump on a controller and cycle it through until you found the sweet spot.

[schminksbro]

Yes, but if it pulses up to 5200 gph it would still have to be very strategically aimed.

[Mike]

It would never be good to have it bangin on a coral :) it would blow the flesh right off of it.

[schminksbro]

But it would still peak at 5200 so I would have the aim issue.

[Mike]

Depending on if I start working a little contingent on the side I might get a couple to trow on the profilux and see what I can do with them.

[Mike]

In a 90 I would stick with the one that peaks at 3400 and dial it back

[Mike]

That is the 6105 model.

[Mike]

I think they all come with the magentic attachments now too.

[Rabidgoose]

Is there some concern with flow direction when eliminating pumps for more powerful pumps with the sticks?

[schminksbro]

No matter what in a tank the size of mine a PH moving that kind of water will be pounding on something I don't want pounded. That is the problem. I would lose so much space trying to get my corals away from the pump. Or point it very strategically and not get flow where I want it. Then when the pivot wears a bit they drift.

[Mike]

I say we all invest in 10 foot tanks soon :)

[schminksbro]

Goose, I would say yes.

[schminksbro]

My thought are that if I go tunze I am just trading what I have for a higher quality version with a higher prise tag. If I go with VT I will have similar quality but much better flow. Do you guys know what I mean?

[schminksbro]

The price tag would likely be higher on the tunze because I would need 2 or more pumps as well.

[Mike]

You have a point on that.

[Mike]

For me it would be an experiment of sorts to try.

[jimsflies]

What you really need to do, Andy, is find a MP40 you can use for a couple weeks to make sure it's what you want.

[schminksbro]

Do you know anyone who wants to lend me a $400 pump? lol

[jimsflies]

You also get a controller included with the vortech that you don't get with the tunze.

[jimsflies]

You never know...someone might have a loaner.

[Mike]

I would have but I sold them

[jimsflies]

maybe seashells could demo one for you...

[jimsflies]

Hi Tom....

[schminksbro]

I have spent alot of time observing my friends 180 with 2 MP40s.

[schminksbro]

I seriously doubt Seashells would loan out a VT. Would you?

[jimsflies]

well, if they had one that was open box, and it meant you'd likely buy one from them if you liked it...if it were my shop, I'd do it. But I can't say for them.

[schminksbro]

Maybe I will have to become a dealer.........

[schminksbro]

But then if I don't like the product..........

[jimsflies]

that's why it'd likely need to be an open box deal for the demo anyway.

Maybe you could put one of your buddy's in your tank for a few minutes and verify whether it gives the flow pattern you are looking for?

[schminksbro]

Maybe.....

[schminksbro]

I think I am pretty convinced of the flow. It is really the quality that concerns me. With the tunze I am convinced of the quality but the flow concerns me. lol

[jimsflies]

I agree with you.

[jimsflies]

I'm going to check out a couple other posts on CR. We'll post another topic for next week and have a discussion in another thread about how we like this feature and ways to improve.

[schminksbro]

Me too......