Reefers and Fans of LED Unite!

[evilc66]

Please take a read here

http://reefbuilders.com/2010/01/30/stop-orbitec-continuing-overreaching-broad-patent/

As a community, we need to find more evidence to blow holes in their patent claims. It's out there, and a lot of it has already been found (and used in the original PFO litigation), but I'm sure there is more. We need to find magazine or web articles, forum entries, pictures, lab tests, anything. The date is important though. These items must have shown up before December 2004 (the time of filing of the patent).

Now keep in mind that this is not just important for commercial companies developing LED lighting solutions, but for every reefer that wants to DIY an LED setup. While the likely hood of Orbitech going after the DIYers is slim, they can still target you for a lawsuit. Any device built that infringes on the patent, commercial or not, is a target. Even if they don't go after the DIYers, they could go after the companies that resell DIY components for the specific purpose of reef lighting. This affects everyone.

What I would like anyone who finds anything to do, is submit it to Reefbuilders, and post it here as a backup. I will also be posting this on other forums that I frequent to get the same results. The more ammunition that we have just makes the case stronger on getting the patent thrown out.

I know that there are a lot of you that are active on forums that I am not. If you would be so kind as to copy this thread and post it on other sites, and link them here.

[Mike]

Here is something

http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/general-discussion/54319-aquarium-led-lighting-under-siege-9.html

[Mike]

Here is another from IMAC 2003 with Tuiello demoing LEDS over a nano

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/august2003/feature.htm

[evilc66]

Good stuff. Much of the demonstrations that Tullio has given has been fairly well documented in the last lawsuit (the one that took PFO out), but everything helps. Make sure you submit this to Reefbuilders.

[Mike]

Seems to me that even cases where reefers were using LED's fro monlights would apply.

[evilc66]

It's almost getting to that point.

[Mike]

It is such a BS patent for sure. Has the company in question even put out a product?????

[ReeferRob]

It is such a BS patent for sure. Has the company in question even put out a product?????

Who the **** would buy it?

[evilc66]

They have not released an aquarium product at all. There is rumor that they are working with a big name in the industry to produce something, but I have no way to confirm that.

[CalmSeasQuest]

They have not released an aquarium product at all. There is rumor that they are working with a big name in the industry to produce something, but I have no way to confirm that.

The only think I've seen is a note that AquaIllumination is licensed under a couple of patents, which I assume are Orbitech.

http://www.aquaillumination.com/?page_id=14

[skuttduck]

Think I could merely use some LED grow lights and go that route? If it is meant to grow plants, I can't see why it wouldn't grow coral.

[Finding_Nemo]

my .5 gal has leds I love them

[evilc66]

The only think I've seen is a note that AquaIllumination is licensed under a couple of patents, which I assume are Orbitech.

http://www.aquaillumination.com/?page_id=14

The second patent number doesn't seem to be correct (doesn't come up in a USPTO search), but AI is the only company that I am aware of that has a license from Orbitech.

[evilc66]

Think I could merely use some LED grow lights and go that route? If it is meant to grow plants, I can't see why it wouldn't grow coral.

While both are photosynthetic, the requirements are different. Corals prefer light that is heavy in blue light. Plants need light that is heavier in red, especially in the vegitative stages. Also, I haven't seen a grow light that was worth a damn, and certainly not worth the cost.