no more frags from Mrs Binford

[Captain]

I must admit. You are silly.

[AJ :)]

Often the tank size suggestions are for full grown adults.
These rays may take a few years to reach adult size. Even then 180 gallons for a ten inch total length ray is more than adequate. As a standard 180 is 24 inches wide. These size suggestions do not take into account water flow and improved filtration or waterchanges.

[thepanfish]

Often the tank size suggestions are for full grown adults.
These rays may take a few years to reach adult size. Even then 180 gallons for a ten inch total length ray is more than adequate. As a standard 180 is 24 inches wide. These size suggestions do not take into account water flow and improved filtration or waterchanges.

You sir are the voice of reason in this thread, took the words outa my mouth.

Chort, rays are stationary 90% of the time, therefore your tang analogy is irrelevant.
These rays are very small and inactive, I've dealt with them before.

[thepanfish]

Yea but the rays studied were fully grown. You can acquire specimens in the trade with a <8" diameter.

[thepanfish]

BTW, if you don't believe me on the whole putting something in a much more confined area will greatly reduce its movement, I recently removed a 2.5-3" 3 stripe damsel from my 180g tank and placed it in a 24x24x12 30g tank.... it used to cruise the entire 180 harrassing anyone it could, now he just chills under the same rock all day long. But hey if u don't believe me I have an extra closet i wouldn't mind renting out for a while lol

Perhaps the recent move might have caused some of the shyness? It must have been really stressful to remove it from a 180...

[thepanfish]

Didn't your damsel go through the same chain of custody?
Or did it just magically appear at your LFS one day.
I've dealt with these in a 750 gallon tank, and:
1. I've never seen one over 8"
2. The only time I saw it move more than a foot was for feeding.