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Breeding Journal: Neopomacentrus Bankieri (Lyretail Damsel)


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    FlynnFish - Reefkeeper CR Member
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    Default Breeding Journal: Neopomacentrus Bankieri (Lyretail Damsel)

    Breeding Journal DataSheet

    This first post should be updated regularly to include new information as events take place
    or changes are made to your system


    General
    Species: Neopomacentrus Bankieri (Lyretail Damsel)
    Social Structure: colony of 8 individuals
    Size of Individuals: 2inches
    Age of Individuals: >1yr
    Date added to Tank: 7/28/10

    Broodstock Tank Details
    Size of Tank: 25 gallons of 1400 gallon system
    Substrate Details: black aragalive
    Filtration Details: sump with live rock, filter socks, moving sandbed filter, skimmer
    Water Changes: 80 gallon water change once a month
    Water Temperature: 76
    Lighting: fish need it 36 inch fixture, one white bulb, one blue bulb
    Lighting Cycle: 10am-7pm
    Other Tank Inhabitants: two tomato clowns

    Broodstock Feeding Details
    Food Types: pellets, frozen, flakes
    Feeding Schedule: three times a day

    Spawning Details
    Date of First Spawn:been spawning regularly for past year, spawn of the eggs collected around 7/12/11
    Spawn Time of Day: unknown
    Dates of Consecutive Spawns: every three or four days
    Courtship Details: unknown
    Egg Size: tiny-1mm
    Egg Color: clear
    Egg Count: hundreds

    Hatch Details
    Hatch Date: july 15th 2011
    Hatch Time of Day: night
    # Days after Spawn: unknown- ~4
    Larvae Description: super tiny, clear, silver eyes, yolk sac


    Larval Tank Details
    Temperature: 74.3
    Size of Larval Tank: 10 gallons
    Substrate Details: bare bottom
    Other Tank Decor: rock, heater, air stone
    Filtration Details: water changes
    Lighting: small 12inch T5- window
    Lighting Cycle: 8pm - 10pm
    Water Changes: none done yet

    Larval Feeding Details
    Food Types: rotifers- algae(rotigreen, phytofeast, tetraselmis 3600)
    Feeding Schedule: once a day

    Metamorphosis/Settlement
    Date of Settlement Start:
    Days after Hatch:
    Date of Settlement End:
    Description of Fry:

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    Water Changes:
    Size at Transfer:
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    Last edited by FlynnFish; 07-28-2011 at 06:11 AM.

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    FlynnFish - Reefkeeper CR Member
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    These pictures are older, I will have to get updated photos.
    Picture of the female
    lyretailmom2 - Breeding Journal: Neopomacentrus Bankieri (Lyretail Damsel)

    Pictures of possible mates
    lyretaildamsels - Breeding Journal: Neopomacentrus Bankieri (Lyretail Damsel)

    I know damsels are hard to raise past 4 days old, but I thought I would give it another chance.
    Damsels are born four days after spawning occurs, they still develop more after hatching. Either their mouth parts arn't fully developed after four days or they are still using their yolk sac until then but that time is when they are sart to die off. I would assume that if they are dying off then they arn't eating the rotifers, so my thought is that maye the rotifers are too big, so I put in some tetraselmis 3600 Instant algae from Reef Nutrition. the Tetra 3600 is at 5-10 microns size while rotifes are around 100-250 microns. I'm hopping that the fry will eat some of the algae until they can eat the rotifers. Just my thoughts.

    While waiting for my percula eggs to hatch on July 14th I looked into the larval tank of the damsels and saw two swmming around. The next night I saw alot more.

    2011 07 16191849 Warren Michigan US - Breeding Journal: Neopomacentrus Bankieri (Lyretail Damsel)


    To the trained eye of fellow breeders there are 6 fry in this picture along the silicone in the corner.
    you will see three black dots together which looks like a face, two will be the eyes and the third will be the gut, the rest of the body is clear. The bubble on the upper edge of the tank, below and to the left of it is a fry.Below that same bubble in the silicone line is another fry. There are two in the very corner of the silicone. There are three bubbles on the right side of the picture on the tank glass follow those down to the bottom of the tank and just below that point there are two more fry.
    Last edited by FlynnFish; 08-08-2011 at 12:32 PM.
    I need to attend a Fish Breeders Anonymous class.
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    I'm praying for them an you FlynnFish
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    Good luck!!

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    Are you crazy? Who breeds these evil devil fish! Lol good luck !
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    LOL. I know what you mean. This particular species is actually very docile and is also commonly called Lyretail Chromis. The colony that I have was housed with clownfish, blennies and tangs and they had no issue with any of them.They are very shy and hard to get good pictures of.
    I need to attend a Fish Breeders Anonymous class.
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    I took a video of the fry on Sunday and finally got it start downloading to youtube.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTAoVswR_iA"]MVI 3021 - YouTube[/ame]
    so it didn't upload my edited version of the video so excuse my child screamming at the end! he stubbed his toe on a chair.

    I guess the babies are doing fine. I saw one fry yesterday cruising around the tank. It was a bit larger than at hatch but still clear except the gut and the eyes. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
    Last edited by FlynnFish; 07-21-2011 at 08:21 AM.
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    I haven't seen any fry in the last 5 days, so I would assume they have all passed on. I'll be ready for another attempt in a few weeks.
    I need to attend a Fish Breeders Anonymous class.
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    Awww this makes me sad-poor lil buggers-that one sure was boot scootin around though
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    I'm curious for more insights on how you're sexing these guys and how you've determined it's the female vs. male who is doing egg tending duties. I ask because in my Neopomacentrus nemurus, it was the male who cared for eggs, so removing all other information, my automatic assumption would've been that it was your male doing nest care.

    Very curious indeed to hear more!

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