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    whitetiger61 - Reefkeeper CR Member
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    Not sure if this is the right spot for this..but there has been some questions in the chat about them and Rob suggested someone start a thread so we dont lose any of the convo..I will start with the first question.

    will phosban reactor lower your phosphates and how will it interfer with your skimmer or will it interfer????

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitetiger61 View Post
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    driving me crazy... I keep thinking your asking me a question like,

    "Rick...?"




    Well, the reason this question came up is that I have had issues with brown on the ground.

    09 12 19 120g leftsidetank - Phosban Reactors

    Flow is where I want it to be so I am guessing the culprit is elsewhere. I have a phosban reactor running with some phostphate remover and carbon right now, full flow at 90gph.

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    Fire your name is Rick as well?

    First off I do not believe running a reactor for phosphates will effect any skimmer performance, but I am not certain.

    Fire, how old or how long has the tank been set up? Could be just new tank syndrome with the diatoms and cyno. Not sure if running an pban would help that issue. For me when I was battling it, I won by water changes, regular stirring of the bed and adding lost of nassy snails.

    I've also read that although we strive to eliminate phosphates from our system, it can be detrimental to coral growth as some phosphates are necassary for color and growth. I've seen some of the most successful tanks who only run GFO total of 7 days a month. And usually just after a water change for 12-24 hours.

    Something I am deffinetely researching right now as I hope to maintain the phosphates in my tank so it does not become a major issue down the road with algae and leaching from rocks and sand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReeferRob View Post
    Fire your name is Rick as well?

    Fire, how old or how long has the tank been set up? Could be just new tank syndrome with the diatoms and cyno. Not sure if running an pban would help that issue. For me when I was battling it, I won by water changes, regular stirring of the bed and adding lost of nassy snails.

    I've also read that although we strive to eliminate phosphates from our system, it can be detrimental to coral growth as some phosphates are necassary for color and growth. I've seen some of the most successful tanks who only run GFO total of 7 days a month. And usually just after a water change for 12-24 hours.

    Something I am deffinetely researching right now as I hope to maintain the phosphates in my tank so it does not become a major issue down the road with algae and leaching from rocks and sand.

    Yarp, its my, to the right of the middle name, First name is fire, middle, bretha.

    I also tend to go by bender bending rodriguez. JK, I introduce my self to folks I meet offline from online as "fire" you utilize your username so much it becomes your identity. Well... Kind of identity... I am actually much weirder in person.

    Tank is around 9+ months seeded from another tank so its past NTS. I need to add like 1 star to start sifting better and slowly, but I think by increasing my bed depth I can maintain better consistancy with good bacteria. I think the fish stir the bed too much when they throw it around (dumb clowns and damsel).


    I wasnt sure if Pban would help either but still nice to test out! interesting concept on the 7 day run time on phosban...
    If you reduce your phosphate level by "50%" by a water change and then attempt to decrease your phosphate level by another "40%" via phosban wouldnt that be a detremental shock to your system?
    I prefer a consistency rather than shocking the tank. I believe in larger "ranges" over consistency except in this case where you are dealing with nutrients in the tank.

    I wonder what the phosphate level of the ocean is? in what areas, etc...

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    I utilize GFO in all my tanks. A reactor should not affect skimmer performance. I would start with half the recommended dosage of GFO because it will affect nutrient levels and can discolor some corals(finer sps). You will notice that diatom disappear pretty quick


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    I used to run silicate media on my 55 when the diatoms exploded at the 1 year mark. That worked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReeferRob View Post
    I used to run silicate media on my 55 when the diatoms exploded at the 1 year mark. That worked.
    yea silicate media like cuprisorb works great for diatoms


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    Definitely watching this thread as I am having the brown/black on the sand bed recently. The tank has been up and running for a year now. I am playing with the flow to remove any dead spots and running a Phos filter pad in my mech. filter box.

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    let me rephrase my question because i got it backwards..will the skimmer neutralize the phosban..

    Rick

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    ^Nope- they will work together to get your nutrients down lower than either of the 2 alone.

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