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Neptune WXM (Vortech Module)


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    jimsflies - Reefkeeper
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    Default Neptune WXM (Vortech Module)

    My new toy arrived today...this has been on my wish list for more than a year.

    Who all has one? Got any tips?

    I manually updated the firmware on my MP-10ES and have the pump "attached" to the WXM, and the pump is now a slave to the WXM.

    I have to say either the guy making the instructions that come with the WXM is color blind, or they changed the LED colors on newer MP-10 models. Virtually none of the color flashing combos were the same as listed in the manual. Mine was manufactured in March 2010.

    Right now I am trying to figure out how to set up the profiles and Vortech outlet.

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    It's been a long time since I installed and setup the WXM, but FWIW , here's what I use. Pretty simple, 2 tanks, same 2 profiles using Reefcrest and Pulse (standing wave.)


    DT
    Fallback ReefCrst
    Set ReefCrst
    If Time 22:00 to 12:00 Then PulseDT
    If FeedD 030 Then OFF

    FT
    Fallback ReefCstF
    Set ReefCstF
    If Time 22:00 to 12:00 Then Pulse
    If FeedD 030 Then OFF

    The only difference between PulseDT and Pulse is the timing required to generate the wave in different size tanks.
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    I've got it working now. I'm just running pulse mode today. I want to somehow toggle the OSC command to use another mode in conjunction with the pulse mode. I'm thinking to manage that I may need to create a virtual outlet to function as a switch. So it would run say 45 minutes in pulse, then 45 minutes in tidal swell and so on.

    I also have the feed and maintenance profile setup now, so it dials the flow back for a few minutes during a feed cycle.

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    Well here is how my program is shaping up...for now I have one MP-10:

    VIRTUAL OUTLETS

    Virtual Outlet: V-PUMP
    Fallback OFF
    OSC 000:00/015:00/060:00 Then ON

    Virtual Outlet: Nite
    Fallback ON
    Set ON
    If Sun -060/060 Then OFF

    PROFILES

    Profile: DayCres
    Vortech Type: Reef Crest
    Max Intensity: 70

    Profile: NitCres
    Vortech Type: Reef Crest
    Max Intensity: 50

    Profile: Pulse
    Vortech Type: Pulse
    On Time (Secs): 0.72
    Max Intensity: 60

    Profile: Feed
    Vortech Type: Constant
    Max Intensity: 13

    WXM OUTLETS

    WXM Outlet: Vortech
    Fallback ON
    Set NitCres
    If Outlet V-PUMP = ON Then DayCres
    If Outlet V-PUMP = OFF Then Pulse
    If Outlet Nite = ON Then NitCres
    If FeedA 000 Then feed
    If Outlet Maint = ON Then OFF

    So basically during the day (day mode), the vortech is in pulse mode for 1 hour then in 70%ReefCrest for 15 minutes, and this repeats. Then one hour before sunset the vortech is in night mode which is 50%ReefCrest until one hour after sunrise, at which point it goes back to day mode.

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    And here I thought I was doing good with ES 2nd set or Lagoon-lol
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    One thing I noticed this morning with the different flow profile at night is the pH dipped lower than usual. As you can see from this graph, the pH dipped lower than normal. (The "V" shape from the night before was the result of me manually turning the lights on earlier than usual. The pH dip on the first day in the graph was from a water change.) I think the lowered pH makes sense as gas exchange is lower when the flow is lower in the tank...this builds up more CO2 and lowers pH.

    ph nitcres - Neptune WXM (Vortech Module)

    I'll have to keep an eye on pH and whether this seems to have a negative impact on the system. My thoughts for doing this initially was to make the tank a little quieter at night...that and just playing with WXM module. It may be interesting to try a lower flow during the day and higher at night to minimize the pH swings from day to night.

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    Very interesting. I have never run a controller, but I do like how you are able to set night functions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimsflies View Post
    One thing I noticed this morning with the different flow profile at night is the pH dipped lower than usual. As you can see from this graph, the pH dipped lower than normal. (The "V" shape from the night before was the result of me manually turning the lights on earlier than usual. The pH dip on the first day in the graph was from a water change.) I think the lowered pH makes sense as gas exchange is lower when the flow is lower in the tank...this builds up more CO2 and lowers pH.

    ph nitcres - Neptune WXM (Vortech Module)

    I'll have to keep an eye on pH and whether this seems to have a negative impact on the system. My thoughts for doing this initially was to make the tank a little quieter at night...that and just playing with WXM module. It may be interesting to try a lower flow during the day and higher at night to minimize the pH swings from day to night.
    That's quite a drop from just a 20% reduced in ReefCrest. I'd watch it for a few days to make sure it's from your pump profiles and not some other interaction (dosing change, ambient CO2 levels...). I do agree those are large diurnal swings and <~7.6 is not ideal.
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    It's difficult to make generalizations because there are so many variables. For example my vortech is mounted half way down the tank and is aimed between some rocks. It might be that 20% reduction is more significant than if I had it closer to the top with more open placement.

    I will post another graph later showing another change I made earlier in the week.

    I am not routinely dosing this tank with anything. About the only thing I do is change water every few weeks.

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    wat does the OSC do in the virtual outlet?

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