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    CalmSeasQuest - Reefkeeper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmmz View Post
    Why can they just add a sub panel with a couple breakers that is what I would do? I did that for my well and it has been fine
    I didn't really need the extra circuits, it was more for redundancy and not worth the costs of a new panel or sub-panel. I'll just run a high quality GFI power strip from another lightly used circuit. At max, I'm estimating about 1800 watts (and that's with all LEDs at 100% and all heaters on) which is easily handled on 2 circuits and a large UPS.

    I did order waterproof boxes for the outlets close to the tank.
    The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. - George Bernard Shaw

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    CalmSeasQuest - Reefkeeper
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    Working through the electrical plan. I've got 3 circuits - 2 @ 15 amps and 1 @ 20 amps (although the 20 amp circuit is shared with a rarely used sump pump.) I'm using individual Shock Buster GFIs on each circuit to minimize the impact of any false-trips. The current plan is,

    Circuit #1 (entire run is on a GFI) ~800W
    Tripp Light commercial 20 outlet metal power strip
    1-7 7X - Kessil 360WE LED lights (7X90W=630W)
    8 - CaRx feed pump - 50W
    9 - Apex power plug (for power fail sensing) - 10W
    10 - CaRx mixing pump - 50W
    11 - MP60 - 60W (Vortech battery backup)
    12 - MP60 - 60W (Vortech battery backup)
    13- 20 - Future Use

    Circuit #2 (Saltwater station - ~780W)
    EB8 on Tower Shock Buster auto resetting GFI
    1 - Waveline DC12000 Mixing/Transfer pump - 170W
    2 - Aquatec 8800 RO Boost Pump - 110W
    3 - ASW Heater/300W
    4 - AWC Masterflex Pump - 100W
    5 - ATO Pump (YTBD)
    6-8 Future Use

    Circuit 3A (1400VA APC SmartUPS) ~ 495W
    EB8 on Tower Shock Buster auto resetting GFI -
    1 - Fluval SP6 return pump - 135W
    2 - Heater/300W (set at 76f/78f)
    3 - WP-60 - 60W
    4 - 8 Future Use

    Circuit 3B ~590W
    EB8 on Tower Shock Buster auto resetting GFI
    1 - Heater/300W (set at 77f/79f)
    2 - Vertex Vectra Skimmer neck cleaner - 20W
    3 - BK Skimmer - 50W
    4 - Cabinet lights - 50W
    5 - WP-60 - 60W
    6 - Fuge/Frag light - 90W
    7 - Moon lights - 10W
    8 - AP Digital CO2 regulator - 10W

    Normally I would keep the cable modem and router on the UPS as well so the Apex could alert me to the power outage, but whenever we lose power, our cable service also goes down (even with the modem and router still online.)

    This ends up about 2170 Watts maximum utilization or just short of 20 amps divided between 3 circuits. The actual load should be much less (i.e. the second heater will probably only be needed overnight when the house temp is allowed to drop and the main LEDs are off.) This also leaves overhead for future additions such as fans, BP reactor, Kalk stirrer... I'm hoping this provides redundancy should a single GFI trip. In the event of a power outage, the UPS should keep the return pump, WP-60, and controller running for at least 30 minutes (long enough to bring a 7000W gas generator online.)

    Please feel free to point out anything I've overlooked - Thanks!
    The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. - George Bernard Shaw

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    CalmSeasQuest - Reefkeeper
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    Good news on the electrical front,

    I was thinking through the comments from the first electrician that had said circuits could not be added to my box (despite available room on the bus.) His push to install a new panel and bus (at significant cost) made me question his motives. On a hunch I called a second electrical firm to review my situation. They found the box and bus in good shape and have no problem adding 2, 20 amp circuits.

    So although I'll have to slightly rework my plan, as of tomorrow, I'll have 2 dedicated 20 amp circuits to work with.
    The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. - George Bernard Shaw

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    Yahoo for you and your getting a second opinion
    There's nothing like being a Reefer! www.upmmas.com

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    Default CalmSeasQuest

    Always good to get a second opinion glad you didn't go with the first guys advice

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    CalmSeasQuest - Reefkeeper
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    Quote Originally Posted by MizTanks View Post
    Yahoo for you and your getting a second opinion
    Thanks Jamie - the hobby (addiction) is expensive enough without abusive contractors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dmmz View Post
    Always good to get a second opinion glad you didn't go with the first guys advice
    Me too - more capital for coral
    The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. - George Bernard Shaw

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    CalmSeasQuest - Reefkeeper
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    I did something tonight haven't done in many years - I mixed up a couple gallons of 2-part for the stock tank.

    I feel vindicated for saving my dosing pumps after going CaRx. Now I just have to remember my dosing schedule and the apex dosing commands.
    The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. - George Bernard Shaw

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    CalmSeasQuest - Reefkeeper
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    Happiness is....40 amps of dedicated circuits

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    Waterproof covers are on the way for all outlets close to the tank.
    The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. - George Bernard Shaw

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    Please share the link to these waterproof covers.....

    I would like some of those!

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    CalmSeasQuest - Reefkeeper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Patrick View Post
    Please share the link to these waterproof covers.....

    I would like some of those!
    I found these on Amazon,

    Single

    Double
    The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. - George Bernard Shaw
    Thanks Sir Patrick thanked for this post

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