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Is this Ich on my blue tang?


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    WtksBlondie104 - Reefkeeper CR Member
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    Default Is this Ich on my blue tang?

    With the flash on, these spots turned out dark, but the spots are white, but not in her skin. It looks like they are hanging on her, or attached to her. I had one die before of ich. But the white spots were in her skin, not on it.

    Do I need to take her out immediately and treat her?

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    WtksBlondie104 - Reefkeeper CR Member
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    She wont stay still long enough

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    WtksBlondie104 - Reefkeeper CR Member
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    I now have my tang in my old 29 gallon tank with a heater, skilter 250 filter, and a cave to hide in.

    I bought Formalin to treat her, but was nervous about the toxicity on it. So, I used what my LFS sold me, which was "Stop Parasite". The Salt is at 1.021, and we used 10 gallons of water from the fish store, and 5 from my tank, and the rest freshly made water.

    Am I doing everything right?

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    Whoyah - Reefkeeper CR Member
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    Putting the tang in a Quartine tank is the best thing you can do at this point. Ich will look like sugar or salt. The Stop Parasite doesn't list Ich as something it can cure. If it is indeed ich you will need something else. Typcially it contains copper. I don't believe Formalin is correct either.

    You should also besure to feed the tang well while it is the QT. Try using dried seaweed sheets or Nori ( used to wrap sushi , around $4). I would also recommend soaking the seaweed in some Selcon first. The Selcon will help the fishes immune system.

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    WtksBlondie104 - Reefkeeper CR Member
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    Thanks for the info. I got Mardel, Coppersafe medication. Is that the right stuff? I also got Kent Marine Garlic xtreme to soak her food in. Supposedly that will help. She is the cave, and hiding in a crevice, and not moving around. Is that normal for this type of thing going on? She took quite a bit of work to catch. That probably made things worse now.

    Any info is greatly appreciated.

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    Ditto to above suggestions. All tangs and surgeonfish get ich very easy and stress very easy until they are happy and established in your tank. But I would leave her in your quarantine tank so you do not effect any other fish you have.

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    When my tang got ich, I just upped my garlic. From what I understand a cold front came through (I dont have a heater) and my tempeture dropped to low 70s. I think it freaked her out, and she got ich. I was about to treat the tank when the guy at the fish store recommended I just up my garlic. Another thing I did was SOAK my seaweed I feed the tangs in Garlic, so they really get a good dose of it. Afterwards, I bought a cleaner shrimp. One month later she seems fine, with no ich, and none of my other fish ever developed it either. Lucky? Maybe but just explaining how I dealt with it.
    Edit: I forgot to add, I kept the tank extremely warm between 80-82, from some info it seems to affect the larva of the Ich, and not allow it to reproduce. Low salinity helps as well, but it will usually hurt your corals.
    55 Gallon. One year old, and looking SUPER.

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    dsfdbutterfly - Reefkeeper Registered User
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    WtksBlondie104,

    I'm sorry to hear about what is happening with your fish. I hope that he can pull through for you. I also understand your frusteration of needing help and not getting clear answers. I hope that you can understand that no one wants to take a stab at what is happening unless they can lead you down a path they feel will help you out.

    When I first started posting to this forum I was making several mistakes that made it hard for someone to respond to what was happening. Until people get to know what your set up is then try to include it in your posts. Even if it seems redundant. I get the best response when I list everything. Don't worry about taking up too much space. The more info the better. Simple things like where your levels are at, what's in the tank, how old the set up is and even things like lighting. This will help get some ideas and a possible answer to your problems.

    Now for some tips that may help for things that you've asked. Unless you are doing a fish only type tank I recommend that you keep all fish that you get in a QT tank until you feel confident to move it to your display tank. Some people wait two weeks others as long as six weeks or more. Depending on what is happening with the fish. In your QT tank only place a few things like a pvc pipe or a piece of lace rock for them to hide behind. Try to keep it as bare as you can stand. The least amount of stuff in the tank the better. If you are going to use this as a true QT tank don't put things like LR in the tank. You won't be able to use most medications to treat anything if you do.

    As far as being able to keep your tang. It is possible. I know the frustration of the one unobtainable fish that you so want. Any fish I name dies so I no longer name them out of fear of losing them. If you take what others have suggested and QT him first there should be no reason that you can't be a proud parent to a lovely tang. The thing you have to remember is that for some reason tangs are ich magnets. I haven't seen any that don't show with ich during transportation from the LFS to your tank. Copper is a great medication that kills the ich. Unfortunately in a reef setting it also kills other things including the LR.

    I know many of these people now here at CR. They all want and will help so try to know that no one was ignoring your please for help. Please keep us posted on your progress and know that many are pulling for you even though they don't know you. Many will be glad to spend hours helping you get the set up you want and help you with even the basic of questions. I hope I haven't rambled too long for you and that this will in some way help.

    Angie
    When you make a mistake look for the lesson to be learned and try not to repeat it.

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    Hope your tang is doing better. I would not use copper since tangs are sensitive to it and it could make the situation worse. What I would do is lower the salinity over the next few days to 1.009. That's about 1/3 that of NSW. You'll need a refractometer to be sure it's correct since those swing arms are not accurate enough. Below is an article that discusses how to QT and use hyposalinity and I've attached a couple of other links that will help you diagnose it, hopefully. You might want to print off the ones listing the symptoms and put a check mark by the ones you see and try to narrow it down that way. From what you say, it sounds like ich and hyposalinity for six weeks should do the trick. Also, be sure to read that entire first link since it explains how you get it in your ST, ways to treat, and how to prevent it in the future. Good luck!

    KG

    http://www.petsforum.com/personal/tr...tyeffects.html

    http://www.fishyfarmacy.com/diseases.html

    http://www.marineaquariumadvice.com/...-Disease-2.htm

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