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    systemfan15 - Reefkeeper CR Member
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    Default kick-ich

    im going to try a reef safe product called kick ich to obviously kill
    the ich in the tank...it says to turn the skimmer off and not use
    carbon filters, would i be able to run my millenium filters w/o carbon
    while having the skimmer off?
    Steve K.

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    segraves1 - Reefkeeper CR Member
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    #ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#yeah.....the idea is to remove the carbon and skimmer because they will remove the "treatment chemical" very quickly and reduce its effectiveness......just remember that without the carbon and skimmer, youwill have changed the dynamics of the ecosystem (filtering) so keep a watch on paramaters.......#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#

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    keep us posted how it works

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    systemfan15 - Reefkeeper CR Member
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    I turned the skimmer off, and took the carbon filters out of the milleniums and my watchman goby died, and my chromis are sick and now in QT with copper. I need to make some serious tank set-up changes....I shouldn't even be running a hang on filter with a saltwater tank....I have no room for a sump....and suggestions for new tank equipment that would help improve my water quality are needed...
    Are there any hang on sumps, or anything that would work well that i could use? Also, i've been using regular tap water and putting dechlor and salt for my water and i need a good freshwater purifier. So if you can help me with any of these things it would be greatly appreciated...
    Steve K.

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    segraves1 - Reefkeeper CR Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by systemfan15
    I turned the skimmer off, and took the carbon filters out of the milleniums and my watchman goby died, and my chromis are sick and now in QT with copper. I need to make some serious tank set-up changes....I shouldn't even be running a hang on filter with a saltwater tank....I have no room for a sump....and suggestions for new tank equipment that would help improve my water quality are needed...#ed_op#BR#ed_cl#Are there any hang on sumps, or anything that would work well that i could use? Also, i've been using regular tap water and putting dechlor and salt for my water and i need a good freshwater purifier. So if you can help me with any of these things it would be greatly appreciated...
    #ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#well I personally am just running a 400gph MaxiJet on my 10gal (thats it.....no filter media, no skimmer, nada........)....been up for over 3 months now and going strong.........I checked things for the first month just to make sure things were stable but never have had any problems......I usually do a 10% water change every 2-3 weeks (I do however have to do daily topoffs with RO water to make up for evaporation.....)......#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#

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    ReefNeck - Reefkeeper Registered User
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    #ed_op#P#ed_cl#
    Quote Originally Posted by systemfan15
    I turned the skimmer off, and took the carbon filters out of the milleniums and my watchman goby died, and my chromis are sick and now in QT with copper. I need to make some serious tank set-up changes....I shouldn't even be running a hang on filter with a saltwater tank....I have no room for a sump....and suggestions for new tank equipment that would help improve my water quality are needed...#ed_op#BR#ed_cl#Are there any hang on sumps, or anything that would work well that i could use? Also, i've been using regular tap water and putting dechlor and salt for my water and i need a good freshwater purifier. So if you can help me with any of these things it would be greatly appreciated...
    #ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl#Ok, Look for a CPR aquafuge hang on tank refugium. This will work well for you and provide natural filtration with Live Rock, Live Sand and Macro Algae (All sold seperately). It's a great place to gro pods that alot of your fish will eat as well.#ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl#Also, Kick Ich is a 50/50 shot at best. I just recently went through treatment with it and lost my Mandarinfish & the Coral Beauty Angel. The Angel was the only one that had ICH. None of my other fish ever showed signs of it. I will NOT use this again. In fact, I have 3/4 of a bottle I will sell if anyone wants it.#ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl#There is NO such thing as a Reef Safe Ich Cure! Quarantine any new fish for 4-6 weeks in a seperate QT tank and treat with Copper to be safe! Do NOT use copper on any inverts, Corals, Worms, Feather Dusters(worm) or crabs. This way you will never have to worry about getting ICH in your display tank!#ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl#I am very sorry about your losses. I wish I had seen this sooner to help you before this happened. Best thing to do now is tear down the reef, placing all your live rock in buckets of tank water until you can catch all the fish. Put them in a QT tank and treat with Copper. Rebuild your reef after you get the fish in QT and in 4-6 weeks the ICH in the Display tank will die not having a host (fish) to keep it alive.#ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl#It's alot of work but well worth it to save your animal friends.#ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl#Keri#ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#

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    segraves1 - Reefkeeper CR Member
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    I got ich in my freshwater tank about a year ago.......I went with the "feed well and let things work themselves out" method.....the affected fish healed up perfectly and didn't lose a single inhabitant.........to me letting nature take care of its self is the only way to cure most things.......
    Chris

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    fish, polups, and LPSs

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    systemfan15 - Reefkeeper CR Member
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    Can you give me a site for a CPR packpack style refugium? I'm not sure what that is and also i have about 5 inches of free space behind my aquarium so will it fit? And also, will the refugium include all the parts needed for set-up...also would i be able to get a wet-dry filter, they seem to do alot of stuff I have no clue about,...haha but they look cool.
    Steve K.

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    ReefNeck - Reefkeeper Registered User
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    Quote Originally Posted by systemfan15
    Can you give me a site for a CPR packpack style refugium? I'm not sure what that is and also i have about 5 inches of free space behind my aquarium so will it fit? And also, will the refugium include all the parts needed for set-up...also would i be able to get a wet-dry filter, they seem to do alot of stuff I have no clue about,...haha but they look cool.
    #ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#I'll get you a link. I use a Wet/Dry and I like it. My skimmer is in the sump of the Wet/Dry. I would not use the Bio Balls most come with though as they trap Nitrates. I have a Wet/Dry for sale if you want one.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Will post right back with a link#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#

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    ReefNeck - Reefkeeper Registered User
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    http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewIt...Product=CR1733

    These come in 12", 18" & 24" depending on tank size.

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