Thank you @Flynnstone ! After months of looking finally others who've dealt with this stuff-lol.
I do have a Mexican Turbo but for what ever reason it simply refuses to go onto the rock, any rock! Hangs on everything else though-lol.
Our LFS has a Tuxedo Urchin I'm gonna give a try. Hoping they'll let me rent it I'll also be checking to see if they carry PhosGuard. My PO4 is at .02, not to bad but there all the same.