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    Ocho Cinco - Reefkeeper CR Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heidi View Post
    It depends on the brand and the niceness . I for one bought a marineland DD and got a heck of a deal on a very nice tank stand canopy and lights... But later (see my thread) my tank starts to leak and I had no warrantee... There is something to be said for buying someone else's issues... Seems like the going rate for a used tank is about a dollar a gallon... Everything extra makes it more but make sure you go on a ton Of forums before you buy, better ideas of what's out there and how much it costs. Oh and decently google "bean animal" overflows... If i could pick an overflow knowing what I know now that would be it.

    Drains: holes with bulkheads that lead to the sump... Can be in the back but most of the time people bottom drill.

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    I've looked a decent amount and this seems to be the best deal imo. All new tanks I've seen are crazy in price and atleast $1500 for a combo. All the stuff I've seen on reefing sites and Craigslist have been a few hundred (usually for a smaller tank) and have usually been neglected. So that means I have to scrape all the algae and calcium off the glass and it never looks the same. This person has the tank running with freshwater and is getting out. From the pics it looks very clean! Anyway, that's my reasoning for this tank

    Back to the Overflow. I looked up the Bean Animal, it looks awesome but I need something I can just buy, I'm not very handy. Do I need to buy a pump first then overflow box so I know what gph rating to get? Are HOB ones any good? Is it better to go with one that is from top to bottom with a stand pipe in it to drain water?
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    Good to see you back man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Patrick View Post
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    It's good to be back!
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    All the packaged deals I've seen so far come with crap for equipment. You just gotta be at the right place at the right time I guess. I'm going to check it out tomorrow so I'll see if it looks as good in person as in the picture. As for drilling, I think im going to take it to the Fish Doctors to get it drilled. For the in lines did you reccomend just the hand on back type?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocho Cinco View Post
    I've looked a decent amount and this seems to be the best deal imo. All new tanks I've seen are crazy in price and atleast $1500 for a combo. All the stuff I've seen on reefing sites and Craigslist have been a few hundred (usually for a smaller tank) and have usually been neglected. So that means I have to scrape all the algae and calcium off the glass and it never looks the same. This person has the tank running with freshwater and is getting out. From the pics it looks very clean! Anyway, that's my reasoning for this tank

    Back to the Overflow. I looked up the Bean Animal, it looks awesome but I need something I can just buy, I'm not very handy. Do I need to buy a pump first then overflow box so I know what gph rating to get? Are HOB ones any good? Is it better to go with one that is from top to bottom with a stand pipe in it to drain water?
    OK, so if the tank is a go Make sure you go there and check it out with the water in if it's close this is what I would do if I didn't want to DIY a bean or whatever...

    http://www.glass-holes.com/1500-gph-complete-kit-gh1500kit.htm

    that is everything you need there to do a 1500 GPH overflow box... drains... baffles.. even comes with the drill bits for the holes Feel free to chime in here if anyone has used these guys.. I have read about them plenty hearing very good things but never used them personally. Thats only for one huge box.. but I think you can do 2 boxes and have just one hole per box... or there is a 3000 GPH kit too. (that would be a lot faster.. so bigger pump, faster flow in the sump not as much skim time etc.) I am feeling like for a 150 1400gph is good enough. So that will put a hole in the bottom of your tank for a drain to your sump.. what are you wanting your sump to look like? Refugium? What size is the skimmer you want? external or internal return pump? Those are a few of the questions you need to ask yourself now.

    Hope this is helping some Also if anyone else wants to chime in especially if I give some crap advice feel free

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heidi View Post
    OK, so if the tank is a go Make sure you go there and check it out with the water in if it's close this is what I would do if I didn't want to DIY a bean or whatever...

    http://www.glass-holes.com/1500-gph-complete-kit-gh1500kit.htm

    that is everything you need there to do a 1500 GPH overflow box... drains... baffles.. even comes with the drill bits for the holes Feel free to chime in here if anyone has used these guys.. I have read about them plenty hearing very good things but never used them personally. Thats only for one huge box.. but I think you can do 2 boxes and have just one hole per box... or there is a 3000 GPH kit too. (that would be a lot faster.. so bigger pump, faster flow in the sump not as much skim time etc.) I am feeling like for a 150 1400gph is good enough. So that will put a hole in the bottom of your tank for a drain to your sump.. what are you wanting your sump to look like? Refugium? What size is the skimmer you want? external or internal return pump? Those are a few of the questions you need to ask yourself now.

    Hope this is helping some Also if anyone else wants to chime in especially if I give some crap advice feel free

    Heidi
    I found this on MR http://www.michiganreefers.com/forum...s-filters.html . Quiet one 2200 pump thats pretty new for $40. Good? Bad?

    I like that link! What exactly do I get thats in the picture? Just the huge box in back? I was planning on a fuge in the sump and a pretty large skimmer. Not too picky on the pump. I would feel better drilling from the back just incase I have a proplem with the bottom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocho Cinco View Post
    I found this on MR http://www.michiganreefers.com/forum...s-filters.html . Quiet one 2200 pump thats pretty new for $40. Good? Bad?

    I like that link! What exactly do I get thats in the picture? Just the huge box in back? I was planning on a fuge in the sump and a pretty large skimmer. Not too picky on the pump. I would feel better drilling from the back just incase I have a proplem with the bottom.
    Im gonna go with no on the pump. I would want to get a 4000 for a 150 at least. I have a life guard 5000 for my return pump right now and LOVE it.. it is quiet and a good amount of flow but not all crazzy amount. 2200 only gets like 594 MAX gallons per hour and thats with zero head. here is a link to the little chart on them on F&S Aquarium Water Pumps & Water Movement: Lifegard Aquatics Quiet One Pro Aquarium Pumps I have been told to be really wary of buying used pumps. The Q.O. pumps are pretty inexpensive for new but a used one I would want to buy at least a 4000 for your tank.

    The black box goes inside your tank, you drill the hole in the bottom and sit that over it. I am not sure if they do a durso but that is an easy fix for sure to make your overflow really quiet. It comes with the plumbing stuff too. (that make the holes you drill in the glass water tight)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heidi View Post
    Im gonna go with no on the pump. I would want to get a 4000 for a 150 at least. I have a life guard 5000 for my return pump right now and LOVE it.. it is quiet and a good amount of flow but not all crazzy amount. 2200 only gets like 594 MAX gallons per hour and thats with zero head. here is a link to the little chart on them on F&S Aquarium Water Pumps & Water Movement: Lifegard Aquatics Quiet One Pro Aquarium Pumps I have been told to be really wary of buying used pumps. The Q.O. pumps are pretty inexpensive for new but a used one I would want to buy at least a 4000 for your tank.

    The black box goes inside your tank, you drill the hole in the bottom and sit that over it. I am not sure if they do a durso but that is an easy fix for sure to make your overflow really quiet. It comes with the plumbing stuff too. (that make the holes you drill in the glass water tight)

    Heidi
    Ok. I was thinking you had a QO 1500 for your tank or something like that from a earlier post. How tall is that over flow box? It doesnt look like it would go from top to bottom.

    I watched the video. It looks like it attaches to the back and has a 90 degree elbow on the back going down to the sump.
    Last edited by Ocho Cinco; 02-25-2012 at 10:12 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocho Cinco View Post
    Ok. I was thinking you had a QO 1500 for your tank or something like that from a earlier post. How tall is that over flow box? It doesnt look like it would go from top to bottom.
    Yeah sorry that was my guess at my GPH.. its the "5000" model. Here is a picture of what the overflow drilling etc from glass holes is.. I guess I was wrong it is back drilled.
    Overflow20Assembly - Starting up again, need a refresher!

    Still a cool kit IMO but others might chime in. There is a ton of instruction (videos etc.) on that site too.

    Heidi

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    So in all I'm thinking:

    -about a 1500 gph overflow
    -about a 1000gph pump (more or less)
    -overkill skimmer
    -Sump, depends on what I can fit below stand.
    -Prolly, drill one hole for the overflow and do 2 returns. That way I only have to drill once.

    ---------- Post added at 11:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:15 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Heidi View Post
    Yeah sorry that was my guess at my GPH.. its the "5000" model. Here is a picture of what the overflow drilling etc from glass holes is.. I guess I was wrong it is back drilled.
    Overflow20Assembly - Starting up again, need a refresher!

    Still a cool kit IMO but others might chime in. There is a ton of instruction (videos etc.) on that site too.

    Heidi
    Ah I see! I'm gonna look and see what I can find at stores first just so I don't have to order but I will shoot for that same size. I would get that package for about $90 because I wont need the bit. I have also found mention of this site on other forms too. So it seems like your not the only one.
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