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    Mike - Reefkeeper CR Member
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    I now what you mean Dejavue. I tried it with the zeovit additives but they proved to difficult to tweak. This is pretty straight forward and not I have the blessing of automated dosing thanks to the profilux set up. That I think has been one key to this working out for me. I set it and can make minor adjustments and then watch for a while without any manual input of additives.

    I am also a believer in the 3 part additives and/or balling salts. I am adding Potassion (BW) and Ferrion(BW) along with lugols once a week now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReeferRob View Post
    DSB's are not recommended with this type of dosing system correct?
    Correct, they're unnecessary and can be counter-productive.
    Quote Originally Posted by ReeferRob View Post
    And so I understand better:
    Brightwells Microbacter7 and vodka is the same as
    biodigest and bioptum
    Basically yes. Any probiotic system utilizes a "bactaria" (microbacter7, biodigest, ZEObac, UltraBIO, etc.) and a "carbon source" (bioptum, ZEOstart, UltraBAK, vodka, vinegar, sugar, etc.). Choose your poison
    Quote Originally Posted by ReeferRob View Post
    Also high alk. is bad, how do you keep it down? Change my salt to what, the BW salt? Did they fix their problems they had with the first few batches?
    Personally I wouldn't use the BW salt - the claims that Chris publically stated are outrageous IMO and I wouldn't even lean that way.

    Without adjusting anything (when using RC, etc.) the best salt hands down IME is Get Tanked Aquariums Formula 2 (NSW parameters). It's spot on consistancy wise, mixes incredibly well, you name it...
    Quote Originally Posted by dejavu View Post
    I have looked back. My PO4's have reached no higher than .04 ppm. It's been 5 weeks since starting and I have yet to have any of the nausine algeas that most experiance with a new setup. Couldn't be happier :D.
    Great to hear Brian, I knew you'd love it :D

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    tankdude - Reefkeeper CR Member
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    Can someone put up some links to some sites? I'd like to do some research on this method. It sounds kind of cool, but I'm terrible at doing daily doses of any kind.

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    dejavu - Reefkeeper CR Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by stunreefer View Post

    Great to hear Brian, I knew you'd love it :D
    Thanks Austin. I talked with many people that have had long term success with it before using it. The best part about it is the dosing schedule. Once you finish the first 6 weeks, it's once a week. Dosing digest one week and bioptim the next.

    Once things settle down alittle in the tank, I'm thing of tiring and other carbon source. A few other I talk to are looking into mix bacteria systems too. This is very interesting too. I'll post more on it latter.

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    Hey, are you running the stones as well or just bact/carbon? I am huge excited to see your tank develope. Triple your last tank should be something to behold.

    Quote Originally Posted by dejavu View Post
    Thanks Austin. I talked with many people that have had long term success with it before using it. The best part about it is the dosing schedule. Once you finish the first 6 weeks, it's once a week. Dosing digest one week and bioptim the next.

    Once things settle down alittle in the tank, I'm thing of tiring and other carbon source. A few other I talk to are looking into mix bacteria systems too. This is very interesting too. I'll post more on it latter.

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    I have the stones running on my tank. Unsure about a difference. I am in the wait and see crowd. I think I will haveto run these more than 6 months to really know. I don't know if the ammonia claims will hold up. I am not getting the bio film now like I was when I first started.
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    Schminskbro....are you running phosban or GFO still? I'm just wondering if I should switch out my GFO with the brightwell stones?

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    No I am not running GFO. Just carbon and the stones.

    Quote Originally Posted by Werdlone View Post
    Schminskbro....are you running phosban or GFO still? I'm just wondering if I should switch out my GFO with the brightwell stones?

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    I would like to know what types of coral you guys are keeping in the bact driven systems?
    "We shouldn't think of an environment where livestock can survive, we should ensure an environment where livestock can thrive."-Rabidgoose
    "If it's gonna be that kinda party, Ima stick my ........ in the mashed potatoes!"-Beastie Boys

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    dejavu - Reefkeeper CR Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by schminksbro View Post
    Hey, are you running the stones as well or just bact/carbon? I am huge excited to see your tank develope. Triple your last tank should be something to behold.
    No stone. Their is no need for reactor or stones... just bio digest& bioptim. Once you reach ULN you can add Bio boost or AA's. I'm not there yet and seeing how the setups new it might take some time.

    Thanks on the complement! This tank will take some time to rebuild coral and fish wises but I'm in no hurry. Losing all my coral has me think about a different direction with this tank.

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