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    AZDesertRat - Reefkeeper
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    The best affordable return pumps would be Eheim or Ocean Runner in my opinion based on a series of tests I did a few years ago. They are both very efficient, do not inflate their capabilities, are quiet, create little heat and do not have restart problems. I have owned and tested Mags, Quiet Ones, Via Aqua, Rio both regular and Hyperflo and several others and none came close. The Mags are extremely hot, use more watts per gallon of flow and are noisy as all get out. I only use them for mixing water in winter months now. I had two different Quiet Ones literally go up in flames and electrify my tbesides running so hot I could not lay my hand on them and would not restart when the power went off so they went in the trash and the Via Aqua and Hyperflows both had impeller problems within the first year so they are trash too.

    The blasters look nice but man they are expensive, I doubt I would ever recover the cost difference in power savings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZDesertRat View Post
    The best affordable return pumps would be Eheim or Ocean Runner in my opinion based on a series of tests I did a few years ago. They are both very efficient, do not inflate their capabilities, are quiet, create little heat and do not have restart problems. I have owned and tested Mags, Quiet Ones, Via Aqua, Rio both regular and Hyperflo and several others and none came close. The Mags are extremely hot, use more watts per gallon of flow and are noisy as all get out. I only use them for mixing water in winter months now. I had two different Quiet Ones literally go up in flames and electrify my tbesides running so hot I could not lay my hand on them and would not restart when the power went off so they went in the trash and the Via Aqua and Hyperflows both had impeller problems within the first year so they are trash too.

    The blasters look nice but man they are expensive, I doubt I would ever recover the cost difference in power savings.
    what size eihem or ocean runner would you reccomend for a 120g dual overflowed?

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    AZDesertRat - Reefkeeper
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    OR 3500 or Eheim 1262. I use the 3500 myself and its been great for 7 years now, never had a problem with it yet. I also use the OR2700 on my skimmer and had another 3500 on the closed loop before I shut it down.

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    Im running a flow star 1500 not cheap but excellent.

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    ya not so cheap , so idk should i get the OR3500 or try to save up for an eheim 1262?

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    found this pump called an eheim+3000 anyone know if its any good?- Eheim Compact Plus 3000

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    I used to run a mag 12 on my 110, I always had heat issues in the summer and it was loud. I have never used Eheim pumps and have heard great things about them, I would recommend one if you can afford it.

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    Shutoff head on that Compact 3000 is only like 7 feet so the GPH will drop off dramatically and will probably be pretty low at the normal 5 os so feet most of us have including height, line loss and fittings. Eheim and OR are both conservative on their numbers though and it may actually do a lttle better than that. Its not as energy efficient as their other pumps or the OR pumps though, my OR3500 draws 58 watts maximum on a Kill A Watt meter at zero head and full GPH of around 1000 and 53 watts in my system as a return.

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    ok i doubt ill even have this setup for 5 years before i went bigger anyways. i guess im gonna go with the OR3500

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    just making sure this is the right one lol?- Ocean Runner Universal Pump

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