MP-40 Opinions?

[Cash]

I am about to pull the trigger and get a MP40. I am getting tired of playing the aim game with 2 K4's. The problem with the K4's is im getting alot of sand bed movement, I think from them fighting each other. Will I have the same problem with the MP40? Also should 1 MP40 be enough for a 90g? I am hoping to only have to use the MP40.
I am probably ordering it this Monday
Thanks

[tazzy695]

one should be more then enough I would set it higher in the tank on one side and pulse it so you create a wave effect

the hight will minimize the sand disturbance and wave effect will actualy stir everything better then just solid on flow minimize dead spots

[Mike]

The MP40 is a quality product and will blow you away once you get it in the tank.

[youngtimothy]

I have 2 in my 100 gal, love them!! 1 is probably enough they create a nice undertow my sand moved for a little while but its all good now.

[jimsflies]

I hate to say this ...but I have had nothing but problems with my Vortech since I bought it. With that said, EcoTech stands behind their product and will resolve the problems. If you buy an extra Vortech for a back-up it may not bother you having it break every other month. I'm on the third repair in six months.

The external/wide flow pump concept is great, but it's unreliability is a real hassle. I attribute some of my tanks problems due to the fact it wasn't operational for at least 10 days each time it's needed repairs. In retrospect I should have kept the two tunze 6055's and the Neptune Aquasurf controller I previously used.

[ReeferRob]

Cash as u know I have a mp10 and an mp20. Love them both. Not a single issue, and very easy to clean and service. Instead of popping for a second one spend the extra dooh on the battery back up. They are now designed in house rather than by IceCap and are said to be more efficient and have longer run times. This was a major factor for me!


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[jimsflies]

Instead of popping for a second one spend the extra dooh on the battery back up.

This is a solution to a completely different problem though. If the pump isn't working it still won't work with the battery backup.

Andy also has an MP-40 and his has broke down twice since he got it in early December.

[ReeferRob]

This is a solution to a completely different problem though. If the pump isn't working it still won't work with the battery backup.

Andy also has an MP-40 and his has broke down twice since he got it in early December.

I know, I was just adding that point incase it had been overlooked.

I have heard of some issues and oddly its always been the 40 I hear of.??

[stunreefer]

Instead of popping for a second one spend the extra dooh on the battery back up. They are now designed in house rather than by IceCap and are said to be more efficient and have longer run times.

FWIW, one of my fellow angel/reefer buddies lost over $9,000 in fish due to five VT batt back-ups failing at the same time. He had 6 VTs, all on batt back-ups, and only one turned on... unfortunately this one was located at the bottom of the tank so it didn't oxygenate the water enough. He lost power on Christmas Eve ('09), and woke up to many of his prized fish and several corals dead. Had a generator and everything but didn't wake up when the power went out - but... why should you when you have Vortech's "fail-safe" in place? Not to fail safe, eh? He did everything right, cycled them once a month and all.

I hate to bring this kind of thing up as I was planning on using VT's (as I had in the past) again on batt back-ups, but have no interest now. This guy is top of his game when it comes to the hobby and I highly trust and respect everything he says. Such a downer

After speaking with multiple other people we're leaning towards the notion that the pumps themselves had re-start-up issues, rather then the batt back-up actually having issues. Ecotech offered to "test" the batt back-ups when he contacted them, but they seem to be missing the point that what's done is done and their "fail-safe" ultimately failed in the worst manner possible.

He's still working to resolve this with Ecotech/Ice Cap, but things aren't looking too bright at the moment... depending how things pan out you'll likely see a thread in their forum on RC with pictures of dead Meridethi Angels, Conspiculatus Angel, Wrought Iron Butterfly and much more He has since implemented a whole house power generator that kicks on as soon as the power goes out - and switched back to Tunzes to avoid re-start-up issues.

I've been an avid fan of VT's since the day they came out, but with this let down to a long time friend, and it such an incredibly horrid manner I will no longer be.

BTW Rob, love the new avatar

[Manoj's Reef]

When I started this hobby 1.5 years ago I used maxijets. Because of their narrow flow and high power consumption, I was looking for an alternative after 8 months into the hobby, I did lot of reading and talking to people and determined that

Vortechs are extremely good when then work, but there are issues with the wetside. The customer service of vortech makes up for the not so robust (in my mind) product.

After paying approx $400 dollars, I dont think its a good idea to be dealing with these many issues. - Again I would like to say that I have always heard from people that when the product works there is nothing like it.

After 8 months into the hobby I decided to try a simple tunze 6045, I have been happy with the product for what it does.

I bought two more tunzes couple of months ago and I should say I happy with the product.