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    EMUreef - Reefkeeper
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    Welp the more and more i think about replacing my MH bulbs as its getting to be that time again... i've been thinking about putting the money i would spend on the bulbs into investing into a DIY LED build.

    I just wanna figure out first, how many LED's ill need. I've heard between 48-72.

    My tank is a 90g 24" tall, and i plan on hanging the LED's about a foot above the water.
    I have a mixed reef sps/lps, SPS mainly mid tank/to a lil higher.

    What size heat sink?

    i've been thinking about going cool white, neutral white, and royal blue mix. 2:1:1 (RB,CW,NW)

    I also think i might need lenses.. though i dunno what kinda spacing im going with yet as this is just in the initial pricing planning stage.

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    48 isn't even close to enough, but 72 is about right. Set it up in an 18x4 array with 2" spacing between LEDs per row, and 3" between rows. Add 60 degree optics, and you should have a good setup for a mixed reef, even with the array mounted about a foot over the tank.

    At this point, I would just use neutral and royals. Don't bother with cool whites. The color rendition benefits of neutral whites makes it worth using by themselves. There has been a lot of discussion on ratios for neutrals and royals, pointing to a 1:2 ratio, but if you use dimmable drivers, I still think a 1:1 ratio is the way to go, just from a color blending standpoint.

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    Thanks for you input evil! i appreciate it!

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    I am curious, Why isn't 48 even "close to enough?"

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    Agreed I would like to know why also. I have a 24 LED panel over a 24" tank and am getting PAR higher than a 400w MH. Granted I did hang it high and am using 40-60* optics. But I would think using two of 24 LED panels over a 48" wide tank would be plenty.

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    I'm no expert but I think getting coverage across the entire 48" tank is the main reason.

    Rosebud, how long is your tank, and where are you taking the the PAR reading (center of fixture or off to one side)?

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    24" long, 24" tall. I'm talking 400 PAR at the center on the sand bed and 200 PAR on the sand bed at the sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosebud161616 View Post
    24" long, 24" tall. I'm talking 400 PAR at the center on the sand bed and 200 PAR on the sand bed at the sides.
    That sounds pretty good. However, if you doubled your tank length and used a second identical 24 LED arrays wouldn't the top-center of the tank be lacking some coverage and likely have lower PAR?

    Tom

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    Evil, for your 2 inch between measurements do you measure from the center of the LED or the edge of the star? and why 3" between rows?


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    Wouldn't there be the same issue with center coverage with MH lamps?

    I am just questioning why the term "isn't even close to enough" was used when a single 24 emitter array has more par at 24" than a 400w MH?

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