Thanks. oh! PIF,lol. Ok that is great. I wouldnt mind jumping in either. At one point I was actually hoping that mine would die so I could watch it produce but I just let things take their course.

I am looking at a frag tank also. Probably 20 long or half of a 55. It doesnt need to look purty "yet" Maybe if I was doing one for my main tank which has an ugly light system over it now. I would want a deep blue I guess as I am getting into sps slowly but surely and want them to have nice colors. My main isnt really blue atm since I was growing lps and zoas mostly But will probably change the halide there from a 10k. What do people use for both good growth and bluer color for sps? The halide is over the back of the tank and most of the rock, and I have a couple t5s over the front.

Money of course is important and I am sure I can do most of the work myself. Thanks for the guestimate of cost, and no I dont need it to dim.