It seems reasonable to me. I think the key here is, if the price you have listed sounds completely out of line, then you'd need documentation to support it.
It seems reasonable to me. I think the key here is, if the price you have listed sounds completely out of line, then you'd need documentation to support it.
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I have to side w/ rosebud and Toms interpretations of the rules. That is how I took them also.
Jolson- this contest isnt about spending right up to the spending limit- its about what you do with your tank and corals, not how many you can cram into a small tank. If it is about racing right up to the limit, I will think twice about entering next year, because I dont think I would drop more than $100 into mine. If that is going to effect my chances of winning, then why try?
As the rules are stated- I dont see a distinction from hobbiests/sponcers/vendors at swaps- and all that have done this have saved receipts/documentation of their purchases.
Thought we had all the loop holes covered this year.....
sorry if i offended you rosebud about the "following the rules" quote, yeah i can understand how we both thought that way so i used the wrong words there. for the sake of being so late in the contest i agree with what jim said, if you can provide proof of what you paid for the coral either screen shot or receipt i think that would be acceptable for this contest because you are right it is over with as far as adding/removing things. personally i think that is how it should be in the first place but like jim said if i get a bunch of frags from my buddy for free then i am at $0 on my limit and others will not be. this will flatten out the rules good for the next contest though.
and chris i know it is not a race to the limit my point is i would rather stock a tank to the max and get a full tank of coral rather than just a few pieces and seeing some bad rock (in my case because i used base rock for my aquascape because the tank is so small)
Just to clarify further...if you do your accounting and find you have over spent, you are still allowed to remove corals from you tank. The April 30 was the deadline for adding new corals. The reason for this deadline is that you need to prove you can keep the corals in your system alive and not be able to wait until the night before the contest ends and jam it full of corals that aren't appropriate for a nano...for example, jamming a nano full of NPS corals the day before the contest ends and being eligible to win, when it is unlikely those corals would survive.
If you find after you did your accounting that you are over, just note that on your stock list that it was removed due to being over budget. There will be no deductions for doing this. Now if stock dies between now and then, in your nano it will be taken into considered in judging.
What if we are under budget but want to remove some pieces because we don't have enough room, will that be allowed also? I assume it will be but just making sure.Originally Posted by jimsflies
Yes, no problem with that. Again, now we are into documentation mode. If something is taken from your tank, you should post why (over budget, no room, think it's ugly :eek , dead, dying, whatever...)
InformationRegarding the market price discussion....here is the key:
Our market list is meant as a guide. Put down the price you paid. As long as it is reasonable then no one should have a problem with it. But clearly if you scored a sweet deal, then it needs to be counted at closer to the market price. As an example, your buddy gives you 4 polyps of ppes. Those can't count as $0. They'd need to be listed closer to the market price (what most reefers would expect to pay for a similar frag). Similarly, if you buy a 100 polyp rock of eagle eyes for $100...I don't expect you to count those on a per polyp basis at $5 each. Of course when you buy things in different sizes you are going to pay different amounts...there is no way I can make a price list that accounts for everything.
Thanks for the confirmation! Makes sense, will make sure to document if I remove anything.
Last edited by jimsflies; 05-03-2011 at 02:19 PM. Reason: fixed quote tag
Additional clarification...
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"Free" Corals part of a Larger Purchase
Free corals that came as part of a package livestock purchase where all of the corals purchased are in your contest nano will count as $0...again the key is that all the corals had to go into your contest nano.
However if part of the package did not go into your contest tank, then a value will need to be assessed on those.
An example of this is Mr. Coral's sales where after every "X" corals, you can pick a free one.
With all the excitement around here the past couple days we have reached the end of the Nano Contest.
Based on my scan of the latest posts in the contest threads, it looks like these members are still in the contest:
CalmSeasQuest
Synergy
Rosebud161616
Kalmed
These additional members seemed to be in the contest as of 5/1...but have not submitted any updates to your contest thread in the past month.
2pairs
nate newton
BK's Reef
jolson10450
So unless I missed someone, the members that are under consideration are:
CalmSeasQuest
Synergy
Rosebud161616
Kalmed
Staff will be looking at these member's threads to be sure that they complied with contest rules. Once we have completed our evaluation, I will post a poll to this thread and the membership will have an opportunity to vote for the tank they feel should win the nano contest.
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