My question was a legitmate one...Lets say we are talking on the phone...and want to discuss a particular zoanthid....how you would refer to those so we are both talking about the same thing? I'm guessing based on your reply, that you would call them a polyp with orange skirts? The problem is there are tons of polyps that have that description which look completely different. Without a photo or a name, how do you narrow it down? Using scientific names (Orange Zoanthus sp.) isn't goint to help either.
JIM, how did we do it prior to 2005? Tell me, when I brought you some polyps from my house, and for the record, I have been to your place a few times. So again, how did I bring you those colorful polyps? You told me what colors you wanted, and I brougth them. The only reason you need names today is for resale. How is it possible that I grew and entire reef and didn't know the name of a single polyp? How did I aquire them, without knowing single name? How many frag swaps did you and I attend together all over this state, and we never had names? You know why everyone needs to know the names now or have a name? Cause they are so darn expesive, that's why. Back in the day, we took pictures with 35 mm camera. We were reefers back then, now everyone is a collector. A collector of a tank full of frag plugs. That's not reefing, that's fragging.
Speaking of fish...they all have a name and a scientific name. When you go into a shop looking for a fish do you ask for a
Amblyglyphidodon aureus? I bet you get a dumb look back if you do! Of course not you ask for a Yellow Damsel. So then, why is it not okay for a fish to have a common name and not a polyp?
Because fish have always had name. And naming a damsel doesn't shot the price from $ 15 for a damsel, all the way up to $ 500, all because someone named it.
Has naming fish been debated as the evil and that people selling fish under a common name also considered profiteering?
Again, NO ONE IS EVIL FOR FRAGGING
I disagree....more is being invested in bringing corals that have a higher resale value. It costs as much to deliver a brown coral to the local LFS from australia as it does a colorful one. A brown variation counts the same against quotas as a colorful one. Therefore, investing in education and equipment for the divers, helps assure that the box of corals can have the maximum value. There is no way you can tell me that the corals being sold today haven't on average become a lot nicer than the average coral seen in the hobby a few years ago.
LOL, Jim, that's business. Pick a commodity, any commodity, but pick a cheap one. Now jack the price up 300 %, of course you're gonna see new investers, buyers, sellers, new business getting into the game.
What I see is 95% of the people in this industry are hobbyists. They hobbyists that are selling these corals so that they can continue to collect and help pay for their hobby. Sorry, I don't see a problem with this. It comes down to simple economics: supply and demand.
Originally Posted by jimsflies
My question was a legitmate one...Lets say we are talking on the phone...and want to discuss a particular zoanthid....how you would refer to those so we are both talking about the same thing? I'm guessing based on your reply, that you would call them a polyp with orange skirts? The problem is there are tons of polyps that have that description which look completely different. Without a photo or a name, how do you narrow it down? Using scientific names (Orange Zoanthus sp.) isn't goint to help either.
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