"Lets say for example you went to the lfs and found a small piece of what looks to be "my miami" or tyree bazooka joe or whatever. It looks exactly the same, there is no difference. What do you call it? Since it didnt come from the person who named it can we sell it as such? If someone says do you have lineage is the response no?" -

I have to say, corals with names like Tyree, ORA, Garf, or any names with a company/stores name in it should have lineage to sell it by that name. The more common names, like whammin watermellon, miami, Bonsai, kedds redds, bambam, sunset, ect are just fine to use names as long as the peice looks identical.

If you have a peice that looks identical to a named item- that is normally lineaged, and it looks absolutly identical, like a Garf Bonsai- you can always drop the garf part and call it bonsai, or an ORA sunset Digi just a sunset digi, but you would then be putting your rep at risk. Many will see it as OK while others will not. I see it as OK, as long as the fact that there is no lineage is in plain sight, or common knowledge. I would definitly make sure buyers understood there is no proof to lineage.

"Say you went to a whole saler and and saw the owner of a website and you both were eyeing a coral and decided to chop it in half. If he goes and names it "super coral" can you sell yours as the same thing?"

Yes you could. And that would be proof of lineage. Now, if the store owner wasnt one of the big companies that commonly lineage or name their corals- dont be surprised when your coral is also circulating around different areas of the world with many other different names, as very commonly seen in the zoanthid collecting world.

"If someone asks for lineage what is your response?"-

Tell them the original namer and you split the coral if thats what happened, and if you have no lineage, tell the truth, and reply- I have no proof of lineage.

"Would you get mad if you named a piece you found "super coral" and someone in cali sold there frag as the same thing and you know it didnt come from you?"-

No, not at all......Its bound to happen. But if I was one of the bigger groups nameing corals and stamping them with lineage, and found this happening w/ a coral that clearly wasnt the same- I would definitly be bent out of shape. Especially if my, or my companies name was involved.

Lineage is a touchy subject to many, but not all. As a buisness, it gets even more touchy. Its not terrible for the small time hobbiest, but even then, can cause a stir.

I have a red planet mini colony. From what I would guess, it is an ORA red planet....but I never bothered to ask for sure from the person I got it from. Just to be on the safe side, if I were to frag it and sell some, I would sell it as red planet- and not indicate that its ORA. Even though it looks exactly like an ORA, and there is no reason to think otherwise, I never bothered to make sure, and I find it just as well to be on the safe side- just in case.