what to do with overflow?

[Wayne Sallee]

Yea don't buy aquarium stuff from Wal-Mart. Find a good LFS.

If it were me I would buy or build a new stand, and do it
right. Also on the All-Glass Brand Stands, the front
middle support can be nocked out, and then attached back
with screws. The middle support is not needed to hold up
the aquarium. It just gives additional stability. I asked
All-Glass, and they gave me that info. By doing this you
can fit a large sump under the stand, and easily remove
and put back in the center support.

Silicone is the best for gluing glass. It sticks to
acrylic so-so. Silicone II will stick to acrylic better,
But for glass to glass I prefer regular silicone over
Sillicone II. I'm not a big fan of Sillicone II.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets
Wayne@WaynesPets.com


TekCat wrote:

I am looking at lots of sump designs,... unfortunately they are all too big
to fit it in my stand. I hate Wal-Mart ))) the stand is from them... it
divided into 2 sections, they are completely separated from each other, and
there is only a 10G tank would make in the section. So, I am stuck there
with 10G sump. Or maybe two tanks with some creative plumbing going around
the stand's poor design. One tank would have skimmer and return sections,
and another would be a fuge. I since the skimmer (AquaC Remora) is a hang
on, I'd estimate my skimmer section (with intake would) take 3 gallons, and
use remaining 7 for the return section.

Since it is the way I am most likely going to go (glass tank), my first
choice is acrylic for baffles, compartments, etc... What type of glue I need
to use to glue acrylic to glass?


P.S. Pszemol, The RO/DI saga came to the happy end. My membrane was the
problem, recently I got replacement. It works like a charm. I am very
happy though ) I estimated that with booster pump running I am getting
approximately 110GPD. AWESOME!!!! )) Thanks for your help.



"Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote in message
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"TekCat" <DUMPTHISpsp@shpiltech.com> wrote in message
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Ok, I am building new sump! I have another 10G tank that
would be transformed into the sump.
Now, It is going to be two section sump: skimmer->return.

Use some experience people have building sumps before you...
If you put not enough baffles/bubble traps in the sump
the water falling down from the overflow will contain
enough air bubbles to get into the pump and create bubble
problem in your display tank.
I would recommend using as much space in your cabinet
for the sump as possible. You could have some sections
of your sump left empty for now and later convert them
into lighted refugium or algae filter etc...
Just browse internet for pages with sumps other people
build and collect ideas to make something usefull for you.

p.s.
I think I missed the end of the RO/DI filter story.
How did it end ? Do you have a working filter now ?
Are you satisfied with the seller support ? Would you
recommend this source of RO filter for other aquarists?

[Pszemol]

"TekCat" <tek_catNOBS@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:dim7hd$k8v$1@domitilla.aioe.org...

I am looking at lots of sump designs,... unfortunately they are all too big
to fit it in my stand. I hate Wal-Mart ))) the stand is from them... it
divided into 2 sections, they are completely separated from each other, and
there is only a 10G tank would make in the section. So, I am stuck there
with 10G sump. Or maybe two tanks with some creative plumbing going around
the stand's poor design. One tank would have skimmer and return sections,
and another would be a fuge. I since the skimmer (AquaC Remora) is a hang
on, I'd estimate my skimmer section (with intake would) take 3 gallons, and
use remaining 7 for the return section.

You know, the buty part about Walmart is that if you are not happy about the
product you buy you can pack it and carry back to the store for a refund ;-)

Since it is the way I am most likely going to go (glass tank), my first
choice is acrylic for baffles, compartments, etc... What type of glue
I need to use to glue acrylic to glass?

Bad idea. Cut the glass and glue it with silicone.

P.S. Pszemol, The RO/DI saga came to the happy end. My membrane was the
problem, recently I got replacement. It works like a charm. I am very
happy though ) I estimated that with booster pump running I am getting
approximately 110GPD. AWESOME!!!! )) Thanks for your help.

Glad to hear this.

[TekCat]

Will the epoxy glue work? Or this is overkill?

Silicone is the best for gluing glass. It sticks to acrylic so-so.
Silicone II will stick to acrylic better, But for glass to glass I prefer
regular silicone over Sillicone II. I'm not a big fan of Sillicone II.

[Charles Spitzer]

look in the rubbermaid tub section. my sump is a 30 gal tub. easy to drill
and add bulkheads. has a lid. sturdy. cheap.

"TekCat" <tek_catNOBS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dim7hd$k8v$1@domitilla.aioe.org...

I am looking at lots of sump designs,... unfortunately they are all too big
to fit it in my stand. I hate Wal-Mart ))) the stand is from them... it
divided into 2 sections, they are completely separated from each other,
and
there is only a 10G tank would make in the section. So, I am stuck there
with 10G sump. Or maybe two tanks with some creative plumbing going
around
the stand's poor design. One tank would have skimmer and return
sections,
and another would be a fuge. I since the skimmer (AquaC Remora) is a hang
on, I'd estimate my skimmer section (with intake would) take 3 gallons,
and
use remaining 7 for the return section.

Since it is the way I am most likely going to go (glass tank), my first
choice is acrylic for baffles, compartments, etc... What type of glue I
need
to use to glue acrylic to glass?


P.S. Pszemol, The RO/DI saga came to the happy end. My membrane was the
problem, recently I got replacement. It works like a charm. I am very
happy though ) I estimated that with booster pump running I am getting
approximately 110GPD. AWESOME!!!! )) Thanks for your help.



"Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote in message
news:dilc89.8ko.0@poczta.onet.pl...
"TekCat" <DUMPTHISpsp@shpiltech.com> wrote in message
news:rdl3f.146$1A1.85@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
Ok, I am building new sump! I have another 10G tank that
would be transformed into the sump.
Now, It is going to be two section sump: skimmer->return.

Use some experience people have building sumps before you...
If you put not enough baffles/bubble traps in the sump
the water falling down from the overflow will contain
enough air bubbles to get into the pump and create bubble
problem in your display tank.
I would recommend using as much space in your cabinet
for the sump as possible. You could have some sections
of your sump left empty for now and later convert them
into lighted refugium or algae filter etc...
Just browse internet for pages with sumps other people
build and collect ideas to make something usefull for you.

p.s.
I think I missed the end of the RO/DI filter story.
How did it end ? Do you have a working filter now ?
Are you satisfied with the seller support ? Would you
recommend this source of RO filter for other aquarists?

[Wayne Sallee]

Epoxy might be hard to remove later if you decide to
change it.

I would use a glass pannel and use silicone. Keep in mind
though that later if you decide to take it out it will
take a lot of going overs with a razor blade to get the
last bit of silicone off. The front glass would be the
only place that you would be trying to get every last bit
of silicone off for good viewing.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets
Wayne@WaynesPets.com


TekCat wrote:

Will the epoxy glue work? Or this is overkill?



Silicone is the best for gluing glass. It sticks to acrylic so-so.
Silicone II will stick to acrylic better, But for glass to glass I prefer
regular silicone over Sillicone II. I'm not a big fan of Sillicone II.

[Pszemol]

"Wayne Sallee" <Wayne@WayneSallee.com> wrote in message news:u9z3f.14388$QE1.13615@newsread2.news.atl.eart hlink.net...

I would use a glass pannel and use silicone. Keep in mind
though that later if you decide to take it out it will
take a lot of going overs with a razor blade to get the
last bit of silicone off. The front glass would be the
only place that you would be trying to get every last bit
of silicone off for good viewing.

I am not sure if this recovering 10g is even worth the time.
In my area, West from Chicago, ten gallon tanks sell in
retail below $10. I got one recently for my baby-clownfish for
$8.45 at "Pet Supply". PetCo and PetSmart sell it for around $9.99...

[davejnz]

i agree,your sump is way too small.I'm curious as to the size plumbing of your overflow.Ther are many ways to improve flow rates for H.O.T. overflows:increase plumbing size from 3/4" to 1"(this will require cutting out a bigger hole),changing the height of the standpipe,adding more teeth,adding another U-tube(if thats the style of the overflow)etc..

[TekCat]

That's exactly why I decided to go with 10G tank... very cheap, I got mine
at (don;t laugh) Wall-Mart, and if I screw it up, then I just toss it and
get another one. I don't think that they make them from temperate glass,
so if needed I could probably drill on it.

I am not sure if this recovering 10g is even worth the time.
In my area, West from Chicago, ten gallon tanks sell in
retail below $10. I got one recently for my baby-clownfish for
$8.45 at "Pet Supply". PetCo and PetSmart sell it for around $9.99...

[Wayne Sallee]

Oh wrong thread :-)

I was getting this thread confused with the "in tank sump"
thread.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com

Pszemol wrote:

"Wayne Sallee" <Wayne@WayneSallee.com> wrote in message
news:u9z3f.14388$QE1.13615@newsread2.news.atl.eart hlink.net...

I would use a glass pannel and use silicone. Keep in mind though that
later if you decide to take it out it will take a lot of going overs
with a razor blade to get the last bit of silicone off. The front
glass would be the only place that you would be trying to get every
last bit of silicone off for good viewing.


I am not sure if this recovering 10g is even worth the time.
In my area, West from Chicago, ten gallon tanks sell in
retail below $10. I got one recently for my baby-clownfish for
$8.45 at "Pet Supply". PetCo and PetSmart sell it for around $9.99...

[Pszemol]

"TekCat" <tek_catNOBS@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:dimrn4$ons$1@domitilla.aioe.org...

I don't think that they make them from temperate glass,
so if needed I could probably drill on it.

Bad news, my friend, they do them from tempered glass.
That is why the glass can be so, so, thin...