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    brandeewyne - Reefkeeper
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    Default dinoflagellates?

    i understand that the exact species that are found in home aquariums have not been identified, let alone studied to an extent of having a solid eradication treatment. that being said, i also understand that the most common form of attack is elevated pH (up to 8.6,) decreased photoperiod (4 hrs max per day) and decreased nutrients (nitrates and more importantly, phosphates.) none of which is a quick fix or guaranteed fix, let alone a permanent fix if it does happen to help.

    has anyone had anyone had experience with this snot-like enemy?

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    Yes, very commin in "new reef tanks" (less than 1 year old,) with excessive nutrient levels. Continue to do what you have been doing, if you have implimented what you have posted ^. Keep sucking them off with a siphon when you do water changes, daily if necesary. Since they are a protazoa and not bacteria, medications such as erythromycin will not really work on them.

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    this isn't a new tank .. nor have nutrient levels been an issue in the past so i'm still trying to pinpoint the cause. phos tests are essentially useless considering they consume them at such a high rate, even if they are partially responsible a test wouldn't confirm.

    i'll have drunk fish as of tomorrow .. vodka, here i come. adding it to the regiment.

    ugh. my poor tank.

    and thank you for the input, much appreciated.

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    What kind of salt and makeup water are you using? Additives? Foods?

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    Actually dinos are very common in older tanks as well. Maintain high Ph, reduce lighting and no water changes until eradicated. If you get them on the run a lights out treatment for 3 days can help push them over the edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schminksbro View Post
    Maintain high Ph, reduce lighting and no water changes until eradicated.
    thank you for the input, much appreciated .. although the "no water change" suggestion kind of surprises me. everything i've read so far has suggested daily siphoning of any visible offenders. what is the benefit of waiting out the 3 day "lights out" period before removing them?

    my RODI water tests at 0 for TDS .. what do you find as your correlation between the two, Miz?

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    When I start getting small breakouts after a wc. It's telling me that it's time to change my RO filter. When I do, no more dino's.
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    at least two weeks of raised pH .. day 3 of "lights out" .. still signs of dinos in the tank, albeit a considerably depleted population. to change the water or not to change the water, that is the question. the last thing i want to do is encourage another bloom.

    i hate to continue on too much longer with my lights down, but if i don't get the snot attack under control i'm going to lose everything

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    I would recommend no water change but I wouldn't go more than 3 days without light. This is why I suggest waiting until you have the dinos on the run prior to going lights out.
    Quote Originally Posted by brandeewyne View Post
    at least two weeks of raised pH .. day 3 of "lights out" .. still signs of dinos in the tank, albeit a considerably depleted population. to change the water or not to change the water, that is the question. the last thing i want to do is encourage another bloom.

    i hate to continue on too much longer with my lights down, but if i don't get the snot attack under control i'm going to lose everything

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    Don't be afraid to do a water change, unless u have a nutrient rich water source. Hit them with the siphon. I would have hit them REALLY good prior to shutting the lights off, at least to put a dent in them. Make sure u check your water chemistry, in the tank, and your makeup water.

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