newbie here need help with 29gl set up

[addam4208283]

#ed_op#P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"#ed_cl#before i ask my ? i jsut wanted to introduce myself; my name is Adam. i have been looking around this siteas well as some othersfor info on starting a nano (29) up for myself. i have kept fresh water fishin the past, but have been out of the hobby for about 10-12 yrs.mymajorhobbies are dart frogs(have been in it for 5yrs and still going strong),just recently weight lifting (started last april, hit my first goal weight). otherminer hobbies are photography, comic books,movies, and some others that i just can't think of at the moment. ]#ed_op#?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /#ed_cl##ed_op#o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"#ed_cl#at the moment i am still n school, finishing my lib arts deg. after that i plan on trans to another school in the fall for a BS in biology, with a concentration in nuclear medicine technology (hope i have enough brains for it lol).i guess thats it for me, nowfor my ?.#ed_op#o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"#ed_cl##ed_op#o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"#ed_cl#29gl nano specs. #ed_op#o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#UL type=disc#ed_cl##ed_op#LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"#ed_cl#29gl tank#ed_op#o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/LI#ed_cl##ed_op#LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"#ed_cl#remora pro protein skimmer w/ maxi jet 1200#ed_op#o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/LI#ed_cl##ed_op#LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"#ed_cl#eheim classic canister filter 2213, or 2217 #ed_op#o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/LI#ed_cl##ed_op#LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"#ed_cl#1-2 maxi jet powerhead mp600#ed_op#o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/LI#ed_cl##ed_op#LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"#ed_cl#around 29lbs of #ed_op#?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /#ed_cl##ed_op#st1:country-region#ed_cl##ed_op#st1:place#ed_cl#fiji#ed_op#/st1:place#ed_cl##ed_op#/st1:country-region#ed_cl# live rock (give or take a little)#ed_op#o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/LI#ed_cl##ed_op#LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"#ed_cl#live sand (any recs?)#ed_op#o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/LI#ed_cl##ed_op#LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"#ed_cl##ed_op#STRONG#ed_cl##ed_op#SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"#ed_cl##ed_op#/SPAN#ed_cl##ed_op#/STRONG#ed_cl##ed_op#SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"#ed_cl#24" coralife aqualight dual linear strip (130w total)#ed_op#/SPAN#ed_cl##ed_op#o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/LI#ed_cl##ed_op#LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"#ed_cl##ed_op#SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"#ed_cl#visi-therm submersible heater 100watt#ed_op#/SPAN#ed_cl##ed_op#o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/LI#ed_cl##ed_op#/UL#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl##ed_op#SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"#ed_cl#for fish i was thinking a pair of clowns (haven't decided between the percula, and the gold band maroon), 2-3 goby ( firefish, and two others), a yellowhead jawfish/ a flame angelfish.(5-6 to much?)#ed_op#o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/SPAN#ed_cl##ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl##ed_op#SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"#ed_cl#i am not sure what i am going to do forinverts yet.(any recs)#ed_op#o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/SPAN#ed_cl##ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl##ed_op#SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"#ed_cl#i would also like to try some corals down the road. maybe some zoos, bubble coral, only ones i know off hand.#ed_op#o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/SPAN#ed_cl##ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl##ed_op#SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"#ed_cl#well i guess that is it. let me know what to change.#ed_op#o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/SPAN#ed_cl##ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl##ed_op#SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"#ed_cl#thanks#ed_op#o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/SPAN#ed_cl##ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl##ed_op#SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"#ed_cl#ADAM#ed_op#o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/SPAN#ed_cl##ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P#ed_cl##ed_op#/P#ed_cl#

[dakar]

Welcome Aboard!

Looks like you are off to a good start. The only thing glaring out is the canister filter. Might consider dropping that from the system if already pruchased, if not save the $$$.

Your plan may be a little much biolod on the system, just add slowly and monitor things as it matures. If you are not going to be running a sump/refuge I'd say bring your sandbed to 4" or so, any argonite based sand.

[graphixx]

I could not agree with dakar more, you are a little loaded on the fish, I would ditch the flame, I know they are a great fish but that is still a fairly small tank for one, and the increased depth of sand will help with your nitrates and nitrites. But glad to see you on the forum and welcome!!!!! We are hear when you have questions. there are ALOT of great people here with a wealth of knowledge.

Greg

[addam4208283]

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#ed_op#TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width="100%" border=0#ed_cl##ed_op#TBODY#ed_cl##ed_op#TR#ed_cl# #ed_op#TD vAlign=top align=left width="22%"#ed_cl##ed_op#SPAN class=name#ed_cl##ed_op#A name=""#ed_cl##ed_op#/A#ed_cl##ed_op#B#ed_cl##ed_op#SPAN style="COLOR: #d4c600"#ed_cl##ed_op#B#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT size=2#ed_cl#dakar#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/B#ed_cl##ed_op#/SPAN#ed_cl##ed_op#/B#ed_cl##ed_op#/SPAN#ed_cl##ed_op#/TD#ed_cl##ed_op#TD vAlign=top height=28#ed_cl##ed_op#TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0#ed_cl##ed_op#TBODY#ed_cl##ed_op#TR#ed_cl# #ed_op#TD width="100%"#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT size=2#ed_cl##ed_op#IMG title=Post height=9 alt=Post src="http://www.captivereefing.com/templates/SteelGraphite/images/icon_minipost.gif" width=12 border=0#ed_cl##ed_op#SPAN class=postdetails#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT color=#00edff#ed_cl#Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:05 pm#ed_op#SPAN class=gen#ed_cl##ed_op#/SPAN#ed_cl#Post subject: #ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/SPAN#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/TD#ed_cl##ed_op#/TR#ed_cl##ed_op#TR#ed_cl##ed_op#TD colSpan=2#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT color=#00edff size=2#ed_cl##ed_op#HR#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/TD#ed_cl##ed_op#/TR#ed_cl##ed_op#TR#ed_cl##ed_op#TD colSpan=2#ed_cl##ed_op#SPAN class=postbody#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT size=2#ed_cl#Welcome Aboard! #ed_op#BR#ed_cl##ed_op#BR#ed_cl#Looks like you are off to a good start. The only thing glaring out is the canister filter. Might consider dropping that from the system if already pruchased, if not save the $$$. #ed_op#BR#ed_cl##ed_op#BR#ed_cl#Your plan may be a little much biolod on the system, just add slowly and monitor things as it matures. If you are not going to be running a sump/refuge I'd say bring your sandbed to 4" or so, any argonite based sand.#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/SPAN#ed_cl##ed_op#/TD#ed_cl##ed_op#/TR#ed_cl##ed_op#/TBODY#ed_cl##ed_op#/TABLE#ed_cl##ed_op#/TD#ed_cl##ed_op#/TR#ed_cl##ed_op#/TBODY#ed_cl##ed_op#/TABLE#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#

#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"#ed_cl#this is just my plan so far, haven't really got anything just yet. i don't plan on setting everything up until after the holiday. so you think there is enough filtration between the pro skim, LR, and LS to do without the canister filter; i just figured that it would make the water that much cleaner? as for LS yes i was just going to use reef sand (isn't this aragonite?)#ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#

#ed_op#TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width="100%" border=0#ed_cl##ed_op#TBODY#ed_cl##ed_op#TR#ed_cl# #ed_op#TD vAlign=top align=left width="22%"#ed_cl##ed_op#SPAN class=name#ed_cl##ed_op#A name=""#ed_cl##ed_op#/A#ed_cl##ed_op#B#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT color=#00edff size=2#ed_cl#graphixx22#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/B#ed_cl##ed_op#/SPAN#ed_cl##ed_op#/TD#ed_cl##ed_op#TD vAlign=top height=28#ed_cl##ed_op#TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0#ed_cl##ed_op#TBODY#ed_cl##ed_op#TR#ed_cl# #ed_op#TD width="100%"#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT size=2#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT color=#00edff#ed_cl##ed_op#IMG title=Post height=9 alt=Post src="http://www.captivereefing.com/templates/SteelGraphite/images/icon_minipost.gif" width=12 border=0#ed_cl##ed_op#SPAN class=postdetails#ed_cl#Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:09 pm#ed_op#SPAN class=gen#ed_cl##ed_op#/SPAN#ed_cl#Post subject: #ed_op#/SPAN#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/TD#ed_cl##ed_op#/TR#ed_cl##ed_op#TR#ed_cl##ed_op#TD colSpan=2#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT color=#00edff size=2#ed_cl##ed_op#HR#ed_cl##ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/TD#ed_cl##ed_op#/TR#ed_cl##ed_op#TR#ed_cl##ed_op#TD colSpan=2#ed_cl##ed_op#SPAN class=postbody#ed_cl##ed_op#FONT size=2#ed_cl#I could not agree with dakar more, you are a little loaded on the fish, I would ditch the flame, I know they are a great fish but that is still a fairly small tank for one, and the increased depth of sand will help with your nitrates and nitrites. But glad to see you on the forum and welcome!!!!! We are hear when you have questions. there are ALOT of great people here with a wealth of knowledge. #ed_op#BR#ed_cl##ed_op#BR#ed_cl#Greg#ed_op#/FONT#ed_cl##ed_op#/SPAN#ed_cl##ed_op#/TD#ed_cl##ed_op#/TR#ed_cl##ed_op#/TBODY#ed_cl##ed_op#/TABLE#ed_cl##ed_op#/TD#ed_cl##ed_op#/TR#ed_cl##ed_op#/TBODY#ed_cl##ed_op#/TABLE#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#

#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"#ed_cl#i thought that the flame was too much to ask. i guess i will just have to wait till down the road a ways when i set up a larger tank. what about the other 4-5, still to much to have in this size tank? i thought i read somewhere a rulelike one inch of fish per two gallons or something like that.Also what inverts should i add/ is there any place on here that gives a brief description of what they do?#ed_op#?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /#ed_cl##ed_op#o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/o:p#ed_cl##ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"#ed_cl#also is the light in my plan going to be ok for what i want it

[jerryc]

WELCOME------------ more like 5 gallon of water per inch
Id recommend 4 Small fish for a 29

[addam4208283]

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#oki doki four it is.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#ADAM#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#

[csg148]

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Hey adam I also have a 29 gallon. I have 2 false-percs, a coral beauty angel and a algae blenny along with a BTA. They all seem to be fine and the filtration is perfect with the 4" of live sand and approximately 30 lbs live rock and a Prizm hang-on protein skimmer. I am going to add a hang on power filter to add mechanical filtration just to try and catch some of the floating junk in the tank. Any questions on specific fish coral or inverts check out marinedepotlive.com or liveaquaria.com both sites have assisted me greatly in my research and selections.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#

[addam4208283]

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl#Hey adam I also have a 29 gallon. I have 2 false-percs, a coral beauty angel and a algae blenny along with a BTA. They all seem to be fine and the filtration is perfect with the 4" of live sand and approximately 30 lbs live rock and a Prizm hang-on protein skimmer. I am going to add a hang on power filter to add mechanical filtration just to try and catch some of the floating junk in the tank. Any questions on specific fish coral or inverts check out marinedepotlive.com or liveaquaria.com both sites have assisted me greatly in my research and selections.#ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#

#ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#DIV#ed_cl##ed_op#P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"#ed_cl#thanks for the help, will definitely be chcking those sites out.#ed_op#/P#ed_cl##ed_op#/DIV#ed_cl#

[Fally]

Why wouldn't he want to use a canaster filter on his setup? I ask because I use one on my 29 Gallon tank.

[Whoyah]

The common theory is that canister filter tend to cause problems with nitrates. You need to clean the filters on a very regular to insure all of the waste from the tank is exported. I have heard of people replacing the filter in the canister with live rock instead.

Here is a recent post from someone with this problem.
http://www.captivereefing.com/viewto...light=canister