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[MedicMike]

All i know is i use tap water in my 20 gal and just and PRIME to it and i've got feather dusters and pods everywhere maybe i'm just lucky

[lReef lKeeper]

same here Mike, but Louisville has some of the best tap water in the country !! thats about all we have, but that is all i need. lol
i have my tap water tested by my brother in law (enviormental chemist) every few months to be on the safe side though.

[jojo22]

Thank you all for the kind replys. I am waiting to see what they say tomorrow (if they call). I will keep you updated. Bobby I really appriciate the offer. I will make you a trade for your knidness. When I get some frag plugs made with the diy agrocrete you will be one of the first to get a shipment. ( I know I havent mentioned them but I have some Ideas to talk to dakar about.)

[PurpleAardvark]

Jojo if you are making them, can you post how you do it? I have alot of poeple ask me how to do it. P.S. if you are in the madison wi area, I have some nice zoo's and sps I can give you. Sorry to hear about your tank man. Kent makes a nice metal sponge that will suck all the copper right out. Sorry I only read part of your post the thread jumped on me.

[jojo22]

Thank you for the offer but I am in Canton Ohio. I will be useing my new mix of 5 parts rock salt 1 part portland. Mix the portland first add the salt and plop the miw into a form of your likeing. I plan to use egg containers and dixie cups for the frag plugs. Here are a few links in which what I am calling "Aquacultured rock" is discused.

http://www.captivereefing.com/showthread.php?t=3771

the second link is in that thread.
After I get things going I will be selling rock and plugs (if it is ok with dakar and angel)

[lReef lKeeper]

that sounds great jojo, i could always use some more plugs !! i am going to be doing some large colt and taodstool fragging in the next few weeks and will gladly save you a couple until you are ready !! my toadstool is getting out of control huge (about a 12" cap), and the colt is ALWAYS growing !!

[jojo22]

Quick update. So CMI (wallmarts ins. company) said that they lease the machine and are not responsible for what comes out of it. I explained that under this thinking if I leased a car and ran someone over hey its not my fault I don't own the car. They stuck to their guns but said they would turn the claim over to Glacier Water Services who owns the machine. I called this company and they said that I should have called to see if this was a "recomended use" of their product, which it is not, that would be hard to do since their was no name or phone number on the machine.. I explained to them that they where commiting fraud as the water I was charged for was almost IDENTICAL to the city tap water(it would have filtered better through a brita). They said that one of their execs would call me back, after repeated tries on my part to get him on the phone I decided that he was blowing me off. I then called the walmart stores inc. head office and and was told that I had to talk to someone from region 49. needless to say this person was out of the office. So I called back and was transfered to someone in region 3. This lady was very helpfull. I explained the situation for the bazillionth time and she was simpathetic. I also told her that if need be I would file in small claims court not for the $610 I am willing to take now but for every penny it took to get the tank to this point ( every bag of salt gallon of water, fish for the cycle, water and every crab or snail that had died), on top of this I would be contacting the local tv stations to expose this fraud and filing a report with the bbb. She took my name and number and asked that I hold off on any action untill the day after tomorrow to give them time to look into this. I said OK but they have to call me before the 24 hour mark with an update. If I still get crap tomorrow I will point out that this copper level could have killed my wifes stepmother as she is alergic to any type of copper and if that had happened $610 would pail in comparison to what they would be looking at (maby they will see how lucky they are. If all else fails I'll go down to the county court house spend the $40 dollars to fial a suite against both companies and let thjudge figure it out. Worst case sinerio I loose and both companies are out more than the $610 (each) in lawyer bills and whatever other costs they incure. So I will keep you guys posted as things progress.

JOE

[spsreefer]

We have publix here in FL and they have a Glacier machine-.25 cents a gallon. When I had my 55g and 75g in college I used this water. I had a TDS meter and never had a problem

[lReef lKeeper]

nice, i knew i liked you for some reason !! please do keep us posted, i am kinda anxious to see if ALL walmart stores pull that brand after this gets settled. it would not surprise me if they didn't !!

[jojo22]

We have publix here in FL and they have a Glacier machine-.25 cents a gallon. When I had my 55g and 75g in college I used this water. I had a TDS meter and never had a problem

Well I had used this exact machine before and never had a problem. What really tick's me off is that the sticker said it was serviced and inspected the day before I used it. It should have been running at it's prime.