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t-8 led look to grow coral w/o expensive fixtures!!!


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    here is a tank with 4 leds tank is only at two weeks old. now i have 12 variety of sps the tank is 10 x 3 x 3. all coral growth is insane. there a 6 leds now total.


    this is only the live rock so far. this stuff came with all kinds of life on it. (there is a tiny acan in the bottom right.)
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    They certainly look bright but until I see some PAR values I will remain a skeptic.

    As an aside... is your tank really only two weeks old?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom@HaslettMI View Post
    They certainly look bright but until I see some PAR values I will remain a skeptic.

    As an aside... is your tank really only two weeks old?

    Tom
    yes. the tank in that pic is only two weeks old. the live rock was form a lr farmer who overnighted the rock the same day he dove and got it. i was a skeptic. now it is a complete fact. i have about 100 fixtures working already and more on the way. LED is the future until something better comes along...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom@HaslettMI View Post
    They certainly look bright but until I see some PAR values I will remain a skeptic.

    As an aside... is your tank really only two weeks old?

    Tom
    yes. the tank in that pic is only two weeks old. the live rock was form a lr farmer who overnighted the rock the same day he dove and got it. i was a skeptic. now it is a complete fact. i have about 100 fixtures working already and more on the way. LED is the future until something better comes along...

    lots of stony stuff too
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    You have 100 of these fixtures? How many tanks do you have? Are you a LFS?

    The unit appears to be physically very similar to the early gen 1 Sunbrites, which used a plastic case and the mega-quanitiy of LED approach. However, Sunbrite used higher end, true color LEDs (Edisons I believe) and were all a sole spectrum in a given tube: options were 10k, 12k, 16k, 22k, 470nm, or 440 nm. I still use a pair of late Gen 1 bulbs in my system (same approach but metal case and improved power supplies in the ballasts).

    Your bulbs used a 50/50 mix of 440 nm with a yelow spectrum 5.5k LED. Keep your eye on algae growth with that 5.5k spectrum.

    On my 135g (18" across) with early Gen 1 bulbs, I needed 6 to 8 tubes across the tank to keep acros happy long term. However, YMMV! :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by pjr View Post
    You have 100 of these fixtures? How many tanks do you have? Are you a LFS?

    The unit appears to be physically very similar to the early gen 1 Sunbrites, which used a plastic case and the mega-quanitiy of LED approach. However, Sunbrite used higher end, true color LEDs (Edisons I believe) and were all a sole spectrum in a given tube: options were 10k, 12k, 16k, 22k, 470nm, or 440 nm. I still use a pair of late Gen 1 bulbs in my system (same approach but metal case and improved power supplies in the ballasts).

    Your bulbs used a 50/50 mix of 440 nm with a yelow spectrum 5.5k LED. Keep your eye on algae growth with that 5.5k spectrum.

    On my 135g (18" across) with early Gen 1 bulbs, I needed 6 to 8 tubes across the tank to keep acros happy long term. However, YMMV! :-)
    i take care of peoples fish tanks around town. the leds do create algae, but also good coral growth. i only have two tanks. and about ten in my garage that need to get set up lol.

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    I totally agree that LEDs are where it's at.

    However, I'm officially confused . I think you're posting (and talking about) two different fixtures (a T-8 style and a "box" style fixture). Can you break down the details of each fixture and provide PAR measurements for either or both fixture?

    Thanks,
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    Waiting for PAR ratings......

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    will post a pic here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Patrick View Post
    Waiting for PAR ratings......
    does anyone have a meter i can borrow?

    Aquarium Lighting; Reef, Planted Light Information. PAR, Bulb, Watt, Kelvin, Nanometers, MH, LED.

    im thinking pur is more important.

    I am showing off two fixtures. an expensive one and a easy made cheap one that can make coral keeping more available to anyone with a few bucks.

    If I had a meter i could get you the info...

    anyway i will post pics with my camera phone. to show it on a tank. looks to be every led is like 1 1/2 vho t5.

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