thanks Jerry, this friday i am going to get an icecap 660 ballast, and end caps, and 2 10,000K VHO bulbs. for a total of 6 VHO bulbs, and getting 2 more the following week for a toatal of 7. 4 10,000K, 2 white actinics, and 1 super blue actinic. that should be sweeeet, and grow just about anything.